There are many Bible haters here who list themselves as "Christians".
Jesus Christ is new God made by one true God.
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Christians can hold various views about the Bible, the biblical canon, inspiration etc. That is fine. But the Trinity is quite a core doctrine.
I know that the Bible teaches Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the ONE God of the Bible. That's what matters to me.
That's a FACT!
Gen 1:26 God said, "Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness"!
This verse is quite ambiguous. If I wanted to defend the Christian teaching about Trinity, I would go with John. John has the widest and deepest texts about it.
It's pretty clear to me. God called Himself US and OUR!
And Isaiah 9 calls Jesus "Mighty God".
The Old Testament is not the best place for defending Trinity. It is compatible with the New Testament teaching, but Trinity is fully revealed in the New Testament.
Give me time. I always get to the clear NT doctrine!
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Name is singular.
But what if the original says like in the Talmud LXX quote, "I shall make in my image and my likeness" --part of Megillah 9a
But the construction is followed by 3 singulars. In is translated from EIS meaning into, thus it is a physical description of introducing the other nations and tribes 3 different subjects. First, the Most High God, then his uniquely begotten son, and then miracle delivering Holy Spirit.
amigo de christo
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Todays christain is seen as those who are of the inclusive love , who wont correct sins and errors even within the church .
Todays christainity has no idea that the love it follows IS OF THE WORLD
Todays chrisaintity has no idea what IT has lost , NOR that IT IS LOST .
May i suggest us SOME SERIOUS BIBLE TIME for our own selves . SO as we can actually learn and grow in the TRUTH .
because these pied pipers of a false love , THEY DARN SURE aint leading this people into anything of GOD
only into GREATER AND GREATER rebellion against HIM .
amigo de christo
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I pray to GOD and I HOPE that when you say the church , YA DARN sure aint talking about THE RCC .
That WHORE is in no different than many of her prostestant daughters are today .
NOT A ONE of them TRULY HONORS GOD .
I do not see a need to present the whole Trinity teaching in one verse. It is enough to prove that:
a) Father is God
b) Son is God
c) The Holy Spirit is God
d) There is only one God
Put together, we got Trinity. It may be also needed to prove these three are distinct persons from each other, which is easy to do, too.
a) Father is God
b) Son is God
c) The Holy Spirit is God
d) There is only one God
Put together, we got Trinity. It may be also needed to prove these three are distinct persons from each other, which is easy to do, too.
Ronald Nolette
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FredVB
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There is only one true God. God says there is no other. Jesus is not separate but is the incarnation of God, while they speak to each other being distinct as shown. And who does God's will fully? You are not the image of God without doing so.
Let me see. Let us look at from the chart perspective. The Holy Spirit is the Father. The son is not the Father, and the Father fathers himself per Valentinus's heresy. Makes no sense.
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