Jesus prophesied that Sabbath would be kept by Christians until His return

[Brakelite]

No, but you misunderstand.

Christ is "the End" of days to all who come to know Him...and "the Beginning" of eternal rest. No more "practice."

According to you perhaps, but scripture teaches no such idea. The apostles and the early church observed the Sabbath. Literally. And despite persecution from Rome, various churches continued to do so for centuries, in Africa, Britain, and on the continent. They received that sacred tradition from their forbears, who in turn received it from Christ. Christ taught nothing different than what Israel had been taught through Moses and the prophets. Obey the commandments, all of them, and live.

 

[Brakelite]

But you can still Keep the Sabbath. Then go the church on Sunday. If for some reason you would rather worship just one day.

That kind of compromising was what led to the situation we have today where 90% of the worldwide Christian faith willingly and deliberately disobey the 4th commandment, supplying in it's stead excuses, human reasoning, no specific day, Sunday, and/or rest in Christ, none of which is taught in scripture as a replacement for the Lord's day.
The early church, up to the time when the book of Acts ceases, kept the 7th day Sabbath. This continued for the next 2 centuries, although some did honor the first day on account of the resurrection, at least according to some early writings. However.
When Israel revolted against Rome, and managed to gain a couple of short lived victories, Rome began to really despise Jews. Not only did Rome despise Jews, but hated their religion, and hated the country they were compelled to occupy. Palestine, to the common soldier, was the pits. So Rome retaliated with a vengeance. This mind you was after 70ad. The temple was destroyed, and the Jewish religion a mere shadow of it's former glory, if it existed at all. In order to truly cause angst among the Jewish remnant in Palestine, Rome used the Sabbath as a particular vehicle for desecrating the faith. Raising synagogues, laying burdens upon Jewry that on the Sabbath was particularly distasteful, and identifying Jews by their Sabbath observance and persecuting them, Christians began to get caught up in the whole shemozzle because there they were, attending synagogues, studying scriptures, preaching the gospels, and resting on the Sabbath just as their Jewish brothers were. This of course over the house of time upset the Jews, who decided prayers to be read aloud in the synagogue that blasphemed Jesus, thus outing Christians.
Many decided they had enough of this, and shifted their focus to Sunday, doing as you suggest, resting at home on Sabbath but attending services together on Sunday. Sunday however began to dominate, and when Constantine introduced his Sunday laws, the die was cast. Nevertheless, there were pockets of faithful Christians who continued to observe the Sabbath throughout the world, despite persecution from what by then had developed into Papal Rome.

 

[ScottA]

According to you perhaps, but scripture teaches no such idea. The apostles and the early church observed the Sabbath. Literally. And despite persecution from Rome, various churches continued to do so for centuries, in Africa, Britain, and on the continent. They received that sacred tradition from their forbears, who in turn received it from Christ. Christ taught nothing different than what Israel had been taught through Moses and the prophets. Obey the commandments, all of them, and live.

I am afraid your idea of what is "literal" is completely off the mark, and you are at risk of blindly following traditions that are actually "literally" fulfilled in Christ our "literal" Sabbath. Beware therefore that you are not worshiping the tradition (which can be a form of idol worship), rather than keeping Him who commanded the tradition until He comes. It's "God with us", not tradition with us. That is why I said, "You misunderstand."

As for Jesus and the apostles keeping the Sabbath tradition, it was right that they keep it until the passing of that evil generation. Likewise, it is also right that anyone to whom Jesus has not come the second time, should keep it until He does. Listen therefore, for His knocking at the door, and pray that He comes, for He comes to those who do, bringing with Him His rest.

 

[Brakelite]

I am afraid your idea of what is "literal" is completely off the mark, and you are at risk of blindly following traditions that are actually "literally" fulfilled in Christ our "literal" Sabbath. Beware therefore that you are not worshiping the tradition (which can be a form of idol worship), rather than keeping Him who commanded the tradition until He comes. It's "God with us", not tradition with us. That is why I said, "You misunderstand."

Jesus didn't give us a tradition. He gave us a gift. A gift of a day. A blessed gift he sanctified and made holy. A day wherein we may meet with Him and spend the day without distractions. A day created for sacred use in worship, in service, in loving fellowship with Him and our brothers and sisters in Christ. A day to enjoy, to delight in, a day set aside by God for those who know Him. KJV Isaiah 58:13-14
13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
So Scott. I understand fine thank you.

As for Jesus and the apostles keeping the Sabbath tradition, it was right that they keep it until the passing of that evil generation. Likewise, it is also right that anyone to whom Jesus has not come the second time, should keep it until He does. Listen therefore, for His knocking at the door, and pray that He comes, for He comes to those who do, bringing with Him His rest.

My friend. I met Jesus 48 years ago, and He hasn't left me for a moment. He doesn't need to knock, my door's always open.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

This is to important for those who profess Christ and such a eye opener not to share repeatedly.

Let's take a look at Matthew. From the KJV Chapter 24 speaks of the tribulation and also the Sabbath. In Matt 24:20-31 Jesus speaks of the Sabbath being kept BY HIS FOLLOWS (US) through the destruction of the Temple in 70AD up to His Second coming.

VERSES 20 THROUGH 31 TALK OF THIS. AND VERSE 20'S WARNING to pray THAT our FLIGHT DUE TO THE PERSECUTION NOT BE IN THE WINTER NOR OR THE SABBATH DAY IS CONNECTED TO THIS.

How do we know?

By His use of the words For, And, Then, For, Behold, Wherefore, For and and in verses 21- 31 where it states the Saints are gathered. All those words are connectives, they connect what is about to be said to what was previously said.

So Are the Apostles around today to experience the tribulation and see the second coming of our Lord?

Have the elect been gathered together?

No, so this warning to pray that our flight not be in the winter nor Sabbath Day IS FOR US ALSO or those who will be blessed to see that glorious day of His return when we the Saints are gathered together to be with the forever more AFTER the tribulation that is said to be like none before.

Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other

We can never learn if we think we are learnt.

Matthew's gospel is clearly written for a Jewish Christian audience living within the immediate proximity of the homeland itself. Matthew's is the most Jewish of all the gospels.

MATTHEW opens with a geneology, pointing the Jews to their Messiah based on their history. Throughout their nation, Jewish Christians continued to meet on the Sabbath, but also met on the Lords day, more popular for the Gentiles.
Those Judaisers ...
"But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”
Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.” Acts 15:5-11

"Before the coming of this faith,
we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian (teacher) until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Gal. 3:23-29

"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day." Col. 2:16

 

[ScottA]

Jesus didn't give us a tradition. He gave us a gift. A gift of a day.

Three little sentences in...and I have to stop you. The Sabbath Day was only called a "day" according to and in the context of this world, which is not true of the kingdom wherein there is "no shadow of turning"--no days.

The misunderstanding here, is that you continue in the traditions of this world, while I am speaking rather--not of this world, but of the kingdom--that kingdom of which Jesus the Lord of the Sabbath now rules and reigns. Making your definition 2,000 years out of date--unless you are confessing that you have not yet entered His rest. In which case, I apologize if I have been premature with regard to discussing it with you if you have not yet entered His rest. Otherwise, I am speaking the truth as correction.

 

[ScottA]

My friend. I met Jesus 48 years ago, and He hasn't left me for a moment. He doesn't need to knock, my door's always open.

In that case you grieve the Holy Spirit by continuing to walk in the darkness that was before His coming to you. Instead of witnessing that there remains an unfulfilled promise of rest and a practice, witness rather that He has given you rest from that first moment that lasts throughout all eternity.

 

[Brakelite]

Three little sentences in...and I have to stop you. The Sabbath Day was only called a "day" according to and in the context of this world, which is not true of the kingdom wherein there is "no shadow of turning"--no days.

KJV Isaiah 66:22-23
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

 

[Brakelite]

In that case you grieve the Holy Spirit by continuing to walk in the darkness that was before His coming to you. Instead of witnessing that there remains an unfulfilled promise of rest and a practice, witness rather that He has given you rest from that first moment that lasts throughout all eternity.

I will testify to what is written.
KJV Revelation 12:17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ .
KJV Revelation 14:12
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus .
KJV Revelation 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and Jesus sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

I do not deny that there is rest in knowing Jesus. There is rest from knowing forgiveness, rest in the freedom from guilt and shame, rest in the freedom from sin and unrighteousness, rest in the freedom from the power of the natural flesh and corruption of the natural man, rest in the confidence and hope of eternal life through Jesus Christ my Lord. So yes. There is rest in Christ. There is peace and security in the gospel of grace through faith in the blood of the Lamb.
Yet Christ of still Lord. He has authority over our lives, and obedience is still the condition of salvation. Are we to claim that rest you speak of while at the same time denying the authority of the one who offers it? Do we spiritualize any of the other 9 Commandments as you attempt to do with the 4th?

 

[HIM]

Matthew's gospel is clearly written for a Jewish Christian audience living within the immediate proximity of the homeland itself. Matthew's is the most Jewish of all the gospels.

MATTHEW opens with a geneology, pointing the Jews to their Messiah based on their history. Throughout their nation, Jewish Christians continued to meet on the Sabbath, but also met on the Lords day, more popular for the Gentiles.

The discourse in Matt 24 is for us all up to Jesus' 2nd coming. Three questions were asked in verse 3. The first was when will the Temple and the buildings of the Temple be destroyed. The second was what will be the sign of His coming. And the third was what shall be the sign of the end of the world. The destruction of the Temple is the only thing that happened in the life of those to whom were asking the questions. On that very note alone shows us that the prophecies pertaining to His coming again and the end of the world are for us or those who will be alive then.

Matt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

As was shown in the opening post everything in chapter 24 is connected through context and grammar. The word but in verse 20 where Jesus tells us to pray that our flight not be in the winter, nor the Sabbath day connect this warning to pray to what was previously stated. As does the word and in verse 22, then in verse 23, for in verse 24, wherefore in verse 26. for in 27 and 28, And and in verses 30 and 31 are all words that connect what is about to be said to what was previous stated. So the tribulation that is prophesied in verse 29, which is prior to sign His second coming, we should pray that when this tribulation comes that our flight from it not be in winter nor or the Sabbath Day. So with that being said. It would be a silly warning if Jesus did not expect those who would be alive at the tribulation prior to His second coming and the gathering of the saints to be keeping the Sabbath. So as with all that we do, let's keep the Sabbath through Him and God's Spirit and cease from all secular work on the Day that God had set apart after He completed Creation and Rested from all His works and was refreshed.


Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[ScottA]

KJV Isaiah 66:22-23
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

That passage spans the cusp of heaven and earth, referring to both before and after the end of times. But why do you think that pitting one scripture against another proves you correct--it does not, but the two must be reconciled...which I have now done for you.

 

[ScottA]

Yet Christ of still Lord. He has authority over our lives, and obedience is still the condition of salvation. Are we to claim that rest you speak of while at the same time denying the authority of the one who offers it? Do we spiritualize any of the other 9 Commandments as you attempt to do with the 4th?

In this statement (above) you show the error of what you believe.

• Does Jesus still keep the Sabbath by "obedience" though He has fully entered into the rest of God?
• Does He keep one day over other days where there are no times or days?
• Are you "in Him" that you should join Him living the rest that was to be at the end of times, or are you not "in Him?"
• By whom do you live? Is Jesus "the End" in you, or is the end of the world the end in you?

I submit to you (as the scriptures also do) that Jesus is "the End", meaning the end of "obedience" and the "Beginning" of eternal rest. Meaning that if He is "is in you and you in Him", you have "arrived", times have ended for you, and the commandments are fulfilled for you in Him--even if the the world has not ended. Which is to say, that you are no more "of the world." Eternity and heavenly rest have come to you. And yet, you have not fully acknowledged Him "as He is", thereby remaining in darkness to the grief of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This is to important for those who profess Christ and such a eye opener not to share repeatedly.

Let's take a look at Matthew. From the KJV Chapter 24 speaks of the tribulation and also the Sabbath. In Matt 24:20-31 Jesus speaks of the Sabbath being kept BY HIS FOLLOWS (US) through the destruction of the Temple in 70AD up to His Second coming.

VERSES 20 THROUGH 31 TALK OF THIS. AND VERSE 20'S WARNING to pray THAT our FLIGHT DUE TO THE PERSECUTION NOT BE IN THE WINTER NOR OR THE SABBATH DAY IS CONNECTED TO THIS.

How do we know?

By His use of the words For, And, Then, For, Behold, Wherefore, For and and in verses 21- 31 where it states the Saints are gathered. All those words are connectives, they connect what is about to be said to what was previously said.

So Are the Apostles around today to experience the tribulation and see the second coming of our Lord?

Have the elect been gathered together?

No, so this warning to pray that our flight not be in the winter nor Sabbath Day IS FOR US ALSO or those who will be blessed to see that glorious day of His return when we the Saints are gathered together to be with the forever more AFTER the tribulation that is said to be like none before.

Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other

We can never learn if we think we are learnt.

You are correct in that you cannot learn if you think you know it all.

But the context of Matthew 24 is not the church but Israelis living in the lad during the mid point of the tribulation, just as it is written.

These preceding verses should instruct all to know this is about the Jewish people and not the church:
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The discourse in Matt 24 is for us all up to Jesus' 2nd coming. Three questions were asked in verse 3. The first was when will the Temple and the buildings of the Temple be destroyed. The second was what will be the sign of His coming. And the third was what shall be the sign of the end of the world. The destruction of the Temple is the only thing that happened in the life of those to whom were asking the questions.

I agree. I didn't say Matthew was only for the Jews. That was a 3-part question that pertained to different times concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and also the entire world and so Jesus went back and forth with His explanation/prophecy. Thus it includes the Temple destruction, fleeing Jerusalem (hopefully not on the Sabbath), for those Jews at that time. It was a Great tribulation for them at the time, with the likely death toll of 2 million.
There will be a greater tribulation for them as well, with a greater death toll coming soon ... and who knows - it might be on their Sabbath?

 

[DJT_47]

The New Testament or covenant didn't begin until after his death (read Hebrews 9:16-17); so, all his words and actions were under the old covenant which was done away with upon the new covenant/testament being established.

 

[Brakelite]

That passage spans the cusp of heaven and earth, referring to both before and after the end of times. But why do you think that pitting one scripture against another proves you correct--it does not, but the two must be reconciled...which I have now done for you.

You didn't write any scriptures that I am aware, so I want pitting the above scripture against anything. I was merely pointing out that in the new earth, the Sabbath will be observed.

 

[Brakelite]

In this statement (above) you show the error of what you believe.

• Does Jesus still keep the Sabbath by "obedience" though He has fully entered into the rest of God?
• Does He keep one day over other days where there are no times or days?
• Are you "in Him" that you should join Him living the rest that was to be at the end of times, or are you not "in Him?"
• By whom do you live? Is Jesus "the End" in you, or is the end of the world the end in you?

I submit to you (as the scriptures also do) that Jesus is "the End", meaning the end of "obedience" and the "Beginning" of eternal rest. Meaning that if He is "is in you and you in Him", you have "arrived", times have ended for you, and the commandments are fulfilled for you in Him--even if the the world has not ended. Which is to say, that you are no more "of the world." Eternity and heavenly rest have come to you. And yet, you have not fully acknowledged Him "as He is", thereby remaining in darkness to the grief of the Holy Spirit.

All opinion and presumption. With a declaration that scripture supports you, but with no tangible evidence. I'm not buying into your philosophy of the Lord of glory having no authority in requiring obedience to God's Commandments, when all of scripture testifies to the contrary. Nor do I buy into your presumption that because I fail to acknowledge your assumptions (and assumptions they are due to a complete lack of a "thus sayeth the Lord" to affirm them) regarding the cessation of Sabbath observance, that I therefore am not a Christian.
My faith is based on scripture. There is nothing in scripture to suggest that observance of the Sabbath was replaced by the rest Christ offers those who believe in Him.

 

[HIM]

No, but you misunderstand.

Christ is "the End" of days to all who come to know Him...and "the Beginning" of eternal rest. No more "practice."

Matthew 24 says what it says. The grammar and context tell us during the tribulation prior to the gathering of the elect to pray that our flight from the tribulation not be in the winter or Sabbath Day. There has been no gathering of the elect by the Angels, no Trumpet , nor sign of the Son of man in Heaven. So these events have not happened.

Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[HIM]

No, but you misunderstand.

Christ is "the End" of days to all who come to know Him...and "the Beginning" of eternal rest. No more "practice."

Scripture please

 

[HIM]

Jesus indeed did prophecy regarding the Sabbath, but not in the way you have assumed.

Jesus was speaking to His disciples, to whom He addressed first with the Sabbath Day warning and regarding His appearing thereafter. Which to His disciples living in that generation meant that He was about to take His rest with the Father, at which time things would change from salvation ending for the elect (Israel) of whom He was "the Last", to salvation thereafter only coming to those who would be born again upon the coming of the Holy Spirit, of whom He was "the First."

No
There has been no gathering of the elect by the Angels, no Trumpet , nor sign of the Son of man coming in the clouds with power and great glory as the lightening cometh out of the east and shineth unto the west, so these events have not happened.


Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.