Jesus was not a humanitarian by nature.

[jaybird]

saying you dont have to be concerned with the welfare of others is basically exactly what the temple leaders were that Jesus preached against. if all you are gonna do is talk but never do what you talk about is pointless.

Mt 24
"42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ ’"

i wouldnt want to be one of these guys

 

[Stumpmaster]

Was Jesus worried about the welfare of human beings via spiritual suffering?

Don't forget about who the Good Shepherd is . . . that would be remiss.

John 10:9-15 I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. (10) The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness. (11) I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. (12) The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. (13) The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep. (14) I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, (15) just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.

 

[MatthewG]

saying you dont have to be concerned with the welfare of others is basically exactly what the temple leaders were that Jesus preached against. if all you are gonna do is talk but never do what you talk about is pointless.

Mt 24
"42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ ’"

i wouldnt want to be one of these guys

Well, Jesus sent his men out and they lost their lives.

Don't forget about who the Good Shepherd is . . . that would be remiss.

John 10:9-15 I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. (10) The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness. (11) I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. (12) The hired hand is not the shepherd, and the sheep are not his own. When he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf pounces on them and scatters the flock. (13) The man runs away because he is a hired servant and is unconcerned for the sheep. (14) I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, (15) just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.

Jesus did everything I could not.

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus also stated somewhere about drinking his blood and eating his flesh.

Not saying that Cannibalism is okay. It was something he stated though.

 

[MatthewG]

Some people assume Jesus was a person that was a "humanitarian" but he was not.

He even said this " The phrase "The poor you will always have with you" is a quote from the Bible, specifically found in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8.

While you can care for the poor and give them things they may need, you still aren't the saviour of the world....

Also Jesus states concerning; The phrase "when you give, give in secret" refers to the biblical teaching found in Matthew 6:3-4, which advises against making a public display of charitable acts. Instead, the passage suggests that giving should be done privately, so that one's Father in Heaven, who sees in secret, can reward them openly.

So while you can care about others and help them in some way or another, it still doesn't mean a person has to join up in a "humanitarian movement etc..."

Jesus was never political either, so...

There are a lot of things that Jesus was not.

He was not beautiful for another example, he didnt have a perfect smile, perfect hair cut, perfect body...

He was not beautiful, and there was nothing we would have truly desired from him, according to Isaiah.

 

[MatthewG]

Some people assume Jesus was a person that was a "humanitarian" but he was not.

He even said this " The phrase "The poor you will always have with you" is a quote from the Bible, specifically found in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8.

While you can care for the poor and give them things they may need, you still aren't the saviour of the world....

Also Jesus states concerning; The phrase "when you give, give in secret" refers to the biblical teaching found in Matthew 6:3-4, which advises against making a public display of charitable acts. Instead, the passage suggests that giving should be done privately, so that one's Father in Heaven, who sees in secret, can reward them openly.

So while you can care about others and help them in some way or another, it still doesn't mean a person has to join up in a "humanitarian movement etc..."

Jesus was never political either, so...

There are a lot of things that Jesus was not.

He was not beautiful for another example, he didnt have a perfect smile, perfect hair cut, perfect body...

He was not beautiful, and there was nothing we would have truly desired from him, according to Isaiah.

Some people mistakenly view Jesus as merely a humanitarian figure—but that’s not how He described Himself, nor how Scripture portrays Him.

In fact, Jesus said, “The poor you will always have with you”—a statement recorded in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8. This wasn’t a dismissal of compassion, but a reminder that while caring for the poor is good, it doesn’t make someone the savior of the world. That role belongs to Christ alone.

Jesus also taught about the nature of giving: “When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing” (Matthew 6:3–4). He emphasized quiet, sincere generosity—not public displays or movements aimed at recognition.

So yes, helping others is valuable. But joining a humanitarian cause or making charity a public identity isn’t what defines a follower of Christ. Jesus Himself never aligned with political agendas or social movements. His mission was spiritual, not political.

And contrary to popular depictions, Jesus wasn’t physically striking. Isaiah 53:2 tells us, “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” His power wasn’t in outward appearance—it was in truth, grace, and sacrifice.

There are many things Jesus was not. But who He was—and is—matters far more.

 

[jaybird]

Well, Jesus sent his men out and they lost their lives.

i dont know what this means?
if i see a person in need, you saying i can choose not to help them, because Peter was put to death? what does one have to do with the other?

Jesus did everything I could not.

and this one i dont know what it means?
same example - if i see a person in need, you saying i can choose not to help them, because Jesus walked on water? again, what does one have to do with the other?

 

[MatthewG]

i dont know what this means?

Good

and this one i dont know what it means?

Good.

 

[jaybird]

Good

Good.

why do you not answer?
edit - when someone says "i dont know what this means" that means it was not explained proper

 

[MatthewG]

why do you not answer?

Choice.

I done wrote out what I had to say.

Some people mistakenly view Jesus as merely a humanitarian figure—but that’s not how He described Himself, nor how Scripture portrays Him.

In fact, Jesus said, “The poor you will always have with you”—a statement recorded in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8. This wasn’t a dismissal of compassion, but a reminder that while caring for the poor is good, it doesn’t make someone the savior of the world. That role belongs to Christ alone.

Jesus also taught about the nature of giving: “When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing” (Matthew 6:3–4). He emphasized quiet, sincere generosity—not public displays or movements aimed at recognition.

So yes, helping others is valuable. But joining a humanitarian cause or making charity a public identity isn’t what defines a follower of Christ. Jesus Himself never aligned with political agendas or social movements. His mission was spiritual, not political.

And contrary to popular depictions, Jesus wasn’t physically striking. Isaiah 53:2 tells us, “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” His power wasn’t in outward appearance—it was in truth, grace, and sacrifice.

There are many things Jesus was not. But who He was—and is—matters far more.

 

[jaybird]

Choice.

I done wrote out what I had to say

thats not an answer

do you not know what you are talking about?

 

[MatthewG]

thats not an answer

do you not know what you are talking about?

maybe I don't but I am getting tired of talking back and forth so. So, if you don't care what I am sharing, then don't worry about it. If you are seeking for answers, you should go to God about that.

 

[MatthewG]

Some people mistakenly view Jesus as merely a humanitarian figure—but that’s not how He described Himself, nor how Scripture portrays Him.

In fact, Jesus said, “The poor you will always have with you”—a statement recorded in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8. This wasn’t a dismissal of compassion, but a reminder that while caring for the poor is good, it doesn’t make someone the savior of the world. That role belongs to Christ alone.

Jesus also taught about the nature of giving: “When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing” (Matthew 6:3–4). He emphasized quiet, sincere generosity—not public displays or movements aimed at recognition.

So yes, helping others is valuable. But joining a humanitarian cause or making charity a public identity isn’t what defines a follower of Christ. Jesus Himself never aligned with political agendas or social movements. His mission was spiritual, not political.

And contrary to popular depictions, Jesus wasn’t physically striking. Isaiah 53:2 tells us, “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” His power wasn’t in outward appearance—it was in truth, grace, and sacrifice.

There are many things Jesus was not. But who He was—and is—matters far more.

This remains the truth, concerning "Jesus was not an humanitarian." At least in my perspective.

Which could be right or wrong.

No one should ever trust me, to begin with.

 

[jaybird]

maybe I don't but I am getting tired of talking back and forth so. So, if you don't care what I am sharing, then don't worry about it. If you are seeking for answers, you should go to God about that.

this is in fact incorrect Lev 18:9 clearly says having sex with you sister is strictly forbidden.
your argument has been proven wrong

 

[MatthewG]

this is in fact incorrect Lev 18:9 clearly says having sex with you sister is strictly forbidden.
your argument has been proven wrong

I am going to ignore you now. I won't any longer see your responses. Bye-Bye.


We have prison systems for people who have sex with children, even incest, steal things, and murder people, fraud, and etc...

 

[jaybird]

typical shill behavior

 

[MatthewG]

typical shill behavior

God made the justice systems for a reason buddy...

Paul talks about that in the letter to the people of Rome.

Im glad we got the prison systems, those are what help to keep our society at large safe.

Aren't you thankful for the prison systems?

 

[jaybird]

God made the justice systems for a reason buddy...

Paul talks about that in the letter to the people of Rome.

Im glad we got the prison systems, those are what help to keep our society at large safe.

Aren't you thankful for the prison systems?

Ragnachar (died 509) was a Frankish petty king who ruled from Cambrai. According to Gregory of Tours, Ragnachar "was so unrestrained in his wantonness that he scarcely had mercy for his own near relatives".
According to the Gesta episcoporum Cameracensium, Clovis I and Ragnachar were related through Clovis's mother, Basina, a Thuringian princess.

 

[MatthewG]

Ragnachar (died 509) was a Frankish petty king who ruled from Cambrai. According to Gregory of Tours, Ragnachar "was so unrestrained in his wantonness that he scarcely had mercy for his own near relatives".
According to the Gesta episcoporum Cameracensium, Clovis I and Ragnachar were related through Clovis's mother, Basina, a Thuringian princess.

Oh okay whatever then.

 

[jaybird]

Oh okay whatever then.

thats what its like trying to talk to you, bunch of random nonsense like the fortune telling machine at the county fair.