Jesus was not a Jew?

[GEN2REV]

Jesus knew the truth and he knew his origins! "Salvation is of the Jews"

- you're a pretender Gen.

"For fear of the jews, ... For fear of the jews!!"

Jesus and His disciples were always doing things "for fear of the jews."

Maybe it's because Jesus and His disciples were all .... jews???!!!!!!

 

[BlessedPeace]

You have forgotten also?

remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. Eph 2:12

Are you still an alien? you have not been grafted in? Are you outside of their hope?

Even Paul said he was chained with the Hope of Israel!

For this reason, therefore, I have asked to see you and speak with you, since it is because of the hope of Israel that I am wearing this chain.”

Wow the ignorance in this forum of late is astounding!

Feel free reject the adoption and see where that lands you.

F2F

Do you believe Jesus is a flesh and blood man living in Heaven?

 

[GEN2REV]

You have such a narrow uninformed view...so narrow!

Read Matthew 23:38-39 and come back to me.

Are you seriously one of those people who actually believes that everything Jesus said about the jews in Mt. 23, Jn. 8, Mt. 13, etc. will just go by the wayside when Jesus returns?

You think that Jesus will forgive all that was done, including His murder, when He returns?

Do you believe Judas was forgiven?

Do you believe all of Jesus' own talk of hell and damnation was just for show?

Who will He send to hell if not those who murdered all the prophets, murdered Him and have worked for millennia to alter and silence His Truths? The NT openly shows the jews as hypocrites, as breakers of God's laws as murderers, etc.

Everything you believe about the Christian faith has been taught to you and is all wrong.

 

[face2face]

Do you believe Jesus is a flesh and blood man living in Heaven?

Did the disciples handle Jesus when he entered the room?

and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This (same) Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

One would assume he doesn't need blood Blessed - its been given! I don't know that anyone understands the physical attributes of a raise body and glorified body.

Flesh & Spirit more likely.

Have you asked him or touched his body (hehe)

F2F

 

[face2face]

"For fear of the jews, ... For fear of the jews!!"

Jesus and His disciples were always doing things "for fear of the jews."

Maybe it's because Jesus and His disciples were all .... jews???!!!!!!

It's nice to have photo of whom I'm speaking with

Sorry couldn't help myself.

Matt 23:38-39

Speak to it for me - have a go!

F2F

 

[BlessedPeace]

Did the disciples handle Jesus when he entered the room?

and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This (same) Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

One would assume he doesn't need blood Blessed - its been given! I don't know that anyone understands the physical attributes of a raise body and glorified body.

Flesh & Spirit more likely.

Have you asked him or touched his body (hehe)

F2F

The perishable cannot inherit the imperishable.

 

[face2face]

Are you seriously one of those people who actually believes that everything Jesus said about the jews in Mt. 23, Jn. 8, Mt. 13, etc. will just go by the wayside when Jesus returns?

You think that Jesus will forgive all that was done, including His murder, when He returns?

I think you are confusing the Jews (Lost sheep of Israel) with those who will be rejected at the judgement. I think you need to rethink your position here.

Do you believe Judas was forgiven?

100% no!

Do you believe all of Jesus' own talk of hell and damnation was just for show?

I believe it was figurative language for a very real judgement which is coming.

Who will He send to hell if not those who murdered all the prophets, murdered Him and have worked for millennia to alter and silence His Truths? The NT openly shows the jews as hypocrites, as breakers of God's laws as murderers, etc.

Thrust out of the Kingdom! But not all Jews are represented by these right?

Everything you believe about the Christian faith has been taught to you and is all wrong.

No, as we are finding it it you who is wrong....the fact you can't even speak to Matt 23 is very revealing in itself.

F2F

 

[face2face]

The perishable cannot inherit the imperishable.

True. Nor can it stand in God's presence.

 

[face2face]

The perishable cannot inherit the imperishable.

I'm pleased you acknowledge Jesus had a perishable nature though - many Christians think otherwise!

LOL

F2F

 

[BlessedPeace]

I'm pleased you acknowledge Jesus had a perishable nature though - many Christians think otherwise!

LOL

F2F

You missed the point of that passage.

Do you believe Jesus had a sin nature?

 

[face2face]

You missed the point of that passage.

Do you believe Jesus had a sin nature?

Do you know why he had to have your nature? Think about it!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Do you know why he had to have your nature? Think about it!

So, that's a yes.

Thank you.

 

[face2face]

So, that's a yes.

Thank you.

Correct.

It would be impossible for God to have His Victory without His Son having our nature - it would be an empty victory of flesh.

F2F

 

[BlessedPeace]

Correct.

It would be impossible for God to have His Victory without His Son having our nature - it would be an empty victory of flesh.

F2F

Jesus was a born sinner. Which is the case with human nature being dead, separated from God, and condemned.

Are you Muslim?

 

[face2face]

Jesus was a born sinner. Which is the case with human nature being dead, separated from God, and condemned.

Interesting that you would quote Romans 6:9 - did you mean to do this?

We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.

What does it mean "death has no more dominion over him"

F2F

 

[BlessedPeace]

Interesting that you would quote Romans 6:9 - did you mean to do this?

We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.

What does it mean "death has no more dominion over him"

F2F

He was begotten in Mary's womb as human. Humans die. The flesh dies.

He died on the cross and rose again to reiterate the message of the Gospel.

This does not mean he also had a sin nature,because he did not.

He became sin who knew no sin.

Had he had a sin nature he could not bring Salvation.

 

[face2face]

He was begotten in Mary's womb as human. Humans die. The flesh dies.

He died on the cross and rose again to reiterate the message of the Gospel.

This does not mean he also had a sin nature,because he did not.

He became sin who knew no sin.

Had he had a sin nature he could not bring Salvation.

Okay so you didn't quote Romans 6:9 and you didn't explain what it means that Jesus was held under deaths dominion.

I can deduce a few things from this:

1. You can't explain it because you don't know (possible)
2. You resist explaining it because you don't want to know (most likely)
3. You would rather cling to what you think you know. (Even more likely)

Which of these would you say is more correct?

F2F

 

[BlessedPeace]

Okay so you didn't quote Romans 6:9 and you didn't explain what it means that Jesus was held under deaths dominion.

I can deduce a few things from this:

1. You can't explain it because you don't know (possible)
2. You resist explaining it because you don't want to know (most likely)
3. You would rather cling to what you think you know. (Even more likely)

Which of these would you say is more correct?

F2F

I did address it. Your faith doesn't accept what scripture in full actually talks about.

Your belief tells you Jesus was a born sinner and just a man.

That's not true.

 

[face2face]

I did address it. Your faith doesn't accept what scripture in full actually talks about.

Your belief tells you Jesus was a born sinner and just a man.

That's not true.

No you didn't
Explain Romans 6:9

 

[BlessedPeace]

No you didn't
Explain Romans 6:9

Yes,I did.

Read Romans 5. Sin and death entered the world by one man. Jesus,known as the 2nd Adam, but was God in flesh, overcame the death sin casts upon all humanity.

Which is why he appeared as a man who could suffer torture,and pain,and die on the cross.

Being sinless,he conquered death and resurrected three days later. He conquered death ,because you can't kill God, and this was all intended to reiterate the message of the Gospel.

If that doesn't answer your question, I'm certain someone else will.