amigo de christo
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Verily i say unto thee , IT BE LORD PRAISING TIME in the building my friend .
Unload and unleash the praises with much thanksgiving unto the Glorious Lord .
And to the trenches for the hour is late my friend .
Jesus was tempted
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Unload and unleash the praises with much thanksgiving unto the Glorious Lord .
And to the trenches for the hour is late my friend .
amigo de christo
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Be ready and be watching . Stay in prayer , in the reading of scriptures to be refreshed
and be hearers and doers of the Word .
Put the trumpet to the lips , JUDGMENT COMETH and the delusion will take all not in the lambs book of life .
And many will betray many and true saints will be persecuted even in the western socities .
and be hearers and doers of the Word .
Put the trumpet to the lips , JUDGMENT COMETH and the delusion will take all not in the lambs book of life .
And many will betray many and true saints will be persecuted even in the western socities .
amigo de christo
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Regulators for the true faith , MOUNT UP . Time to point to Christ to the last breath my friends .
Aunty Jane
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Do you understand why there was a clash of wills on that occasion?
What was the “cup” that Jesus was wanting to avoid?
Was it the sacrificing of his life? NO!
Was it the manner of his death? NO!
Was it the crime he was being charged with? YES!
Dying as a blasphemer against his Father was unthinkable for him.
If you knew that, you would understand why Jesus acquiesced to the will of his Father…if God permitted it, Jesus was willing to put his own misgivings aside, and obey something that was very difficult for him…even more difficult than the torture and death he was about to undergo. That is how loyal Jesus was to his Father and his wanting never to bring reproach on his name.
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In and On are different in fact !
I believe on the Bible ? well do you know the Bible totaly all word for word ?
I believe In Christ Jesus ! I do not believe on him ? I am with him ! and he with me ! I am inside ? not out side ? not looking in ? but looking out ! because I am Saved ! I know the difference in fact ! because I was once out side looking in ?
Now amigo we were not once, but when we came to have Faith that's one thing and it's good ! and not all will become truly Saved in fact ? but they who are of little faith can not move mountains in fact, Bible says so ! as such says you need the Faith that can move mountains in fact.
So Ok you are trying to bring the flock in ? The wide door ? Ok I get that ! They may need that, to get them in the door, now that does not mean that they will all go to Hell ? but maybe they will not make it to Heaven ?
They could lack Grace and who are they only then ? Like one who lost their faith ? the Lost Sheep ? well that's because they never truly had such in the first place, is it not ?
Yes the spark is still their hidden strangled by this world ! I have seen many such people, the majority over the years who went to Church that I went to. They have said to me, You still do not believe that BS do you. Well I say, Yes ! and much more so than ever ! and they are shocked !
I will talk with them till the cowes come home, so as to fire that spark back up in fact !
I have no regards anyones denomination, I only talk about the Lord Jesus as the Key, not Religion.
I do not say who will go to Heaven or Hell as that is not up to me. but I think most go to Purgatory. because many do not deserve Hell. but will such a people lead us to Hellfire that is to come on earth ? Sure they may ! many Religious will and are on that Track in fact ! good buddy.
So God is incharge of what is permitted now ? as if a leaver is pulled ? yes, no, keeping on track as on top of all things going on taking place, it's OK or Not ? He is swinging the gate open and cloased ?
Or is God like gravity say ? you want to disrespect the Laws of gravity so be it ! Can God change the Laws NO ! they are set !
So best understand the Laws God has set ! and fact is that Man will try and disregard the Laws.
Come now ! Jesus knew the People 100% so dying as Carnal people think of him, is not on the cards at all in fact !
What you just claimed regards that, is that Jesus was just only some dude !
Jesus did no Crime at all in fact !
It was the manner of his death in fact ! If you do not understand who the People were that lead to what they did to him, you know nothing of such understanding of who and what the people were at = Lost !
lead astray and blind ! Stupid idiot moronic foolos in fact !
but such understanding of carnal Man must be truly understood in fact ! so as to know the evil of carnal Man truly is all about !
Jesus shown what such truly is in fact, It was a gift, it's in you all !
You your Sin nature was what killed Jesus in fact, it was your Sin nature That was on display in fact and that's why one must turn from that Man of Sin and understand the diffrence their of ! As Jesus showed us the way !
Jesus still lives ! he lives in us ! for we are his !
I changed my username Amigo, not Verily but Truly now. I do not get notifications for my old account, I just fell on your reply by accident.
Hey, have you heard this one yet? Its my new favorite (it builds) Its beautiful
I keep playing this on repeat, I hope he does not tire of it. I do have to supplement this with Luke Garret's "Arise" behind it because she leaves off at his death, but does not go into his resurrection and "Arise" just fits in perfectly behind that one.
Good to see you Amigo, God richly bless you in Christ Jesus our Lord
Aunty Jane
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He was always in charge of what is permitted Reg….didn’t the account of Job’s trials teach us that?
There is no swinging gate and I never suggested that there was.
God allows his free willed creatures “enough rope”….it’s what will hang satan and all who have been misled by him into worshipping the wrong “god”.
The son of God was not trying to circumvent the death he was about to suffer, but dying as a blasphemer was almost more than he could bear. That is the cup that he asked to be taken away from him. He was not bartering with his Father, but asking for some other basis upon which to be put to the death he knew he had to suffer.
Seriously, how on earth is Jesus “only some dude” from what I wrote? The son of God was the obedient “servant” of his Father. (Acts 4:27) He was going to be obedient no matter what God’s enemies did to him, but he just didn’t want to die accused of blasphemy, especially when Pilate pronounced him innocent of any charge under Roman law. Only when the Jews threatened him with reports of treason to Caesar did he give Jesus over to the Jews for execution, washing his hands of the whole affair, but throwing in a good flogging to appease them.
Exactly, just as it was prophesied that he would die as an innocent man….counted in with lawless ones as he was hung alongside two convicted criminals.
The manner of his death was inconsequential, since it was his death itself that released mankind from condemnation to sin and death, inherited from Adam.
This is why the cross is an idol in Christendom….God’s law stated that no images of anything were to be made to use in worship. Glorifying his execution stake is not what Christianity is about. It is idolatry.
Yes, all of the above…but the manner of his death was at the hands of the Romans, who executed criminals in this most barbaric way. No law of God required prolonged torture. Jews had no power under Roman law to execute anyone. They must have relished this death for Jesus.
Our sin did not kill Jesus…..Adam’s sin required a redeemer.…and if you know what redemption is, it requires equivalency…..like for like. So what Adam lost for his children, was perfect sinless life…..Jesus came to offer his perfect sinless life in exchange…..taking the bullet for all of us.
This is why he had to come from heaven, with not a shred of Adam’s faulty DNA to mess up the exchange.
You might reconsider the overuse of the words “in fact”, as they detract from what you are saying a lot of the time.…especially when what you say is not “in fact”…..fact.
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The Cross is an Idol to Christians, is it ! It's Not to me at all !
The only Cross is the one with Jesus on it in fact !
A Cross by it's self is nothing but a trinket.
At the hands of the Romans ? It was the Jews who worked so as to set Jesus up for the Romans in fact, for if they did not set Jesus up, the Romans could not give a rats in fact !
The Jews were against Jesus from day one ! playing him with games so that the Jews would stone and kill him, but Jesus out smarted all of them Jews who got together so as to work out how to trap Jesus !
The Jews Killed Stephen stoned him to death in fact !
Our Sin nature did kill Jesus, fool ! That is the key to what it's all about !
You have a Sin nature and this is the whole issue ! reconise it and repent ! or you are Lost !
When they did such to Jesus, You did it ! clearly your sin nature did it !
So one has to abide in Christ Jesus that is the Key to being Saved ! because one is then his and he is one with such ! one is then born again in fact ! for one is not of this world that is full of delusions and deceptions.
Anyone who claims God to be incharge is a fool and a Satanist ! for such a one to claim such dribble is charging God with all that passes as evil !
As for in relation of what is Permitted ? it's not coming from your Carnal perspective. God is not the door keeper to all such ? If you say that you are idolising Moloch etc as your gods and you would be serving in the burnt offerings, would you not !
Would you call the 6 million Jews that were served up for a burnt offering a Holocaust ? dear Aunty Jane, because if one does claim such was a Holocaust ! Then you are guilty of serving another god ?
Enough rope ? come on ! seriously !
Aunty Jane
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Yes, since God’s law to his people was NOT to make images of “anything” to use in worship….the cross adorns churches across the world in defiance of his clearly stated rule. It is seen on Christendom’s clergy but Exodus 20:4 it says not to “make“ them…..otherwise there would be nothing to worship, like the Israelites needed a visual thing to represent their God, so they pressured Aaron into making an idol for them…a golden calf that they called “Yahweh”. God punished them for that.
Yes Reggie, Christ died at the hands of the Romans, who nailed him to his execution stake…..who do you think Jesus asked forgiveness for ? Not the Pharisees who orchestrated his murder, and whom he had already condemned to Gehenna. It was the Roman soldiers, just doing their job, unaware of who it was that they were executing.
And Saul of Tarsus (who became the Apostle Paul) stood by approving of his murder. Jews often stoned people whom they wanted to get rid of….Paul himself was stoned and left for dead on a few occasions. But the Jews wanted a public execution for Jesus so that they could gloat and show a demonstration of their power even under Roman Law.
You have that all backwards….Jesus willingly came to offer his life for us. We inherited sin through no fault on our part….Jesus was not forced or coerced into giving his life for us…it was an act of love….on the part of both Father and son. (John 3:16)
Good grief man…..do you not understand the difference between God’s permitting something and his causing it?
Everything that takes place on this planet does so with God’s permission, because he is giving the devil and all who fall for his lies, “enough rope” to hang or to condemn themselves.
The story of Job is there to show us how far he will let the devil go before he says “enough”.
Why is Job’s story in the Bible if not to help us understand that it’s not about what we can see….but about what we can’t see, that is the problem. Job was unaware of the source of his trails, yet he remained loyal and faithful to his God.
What on earth has the holocaust got to do with the price of fish?
Do you have any idea of what took place in those camps and who was persecuted and executed along with those 6 million Jews? The Holocaust Museum in NYC has a special exhibit dedicated to Jehovah’s Witnesses who also lost their lives in those camps. Unlike the Jews, whom Hitler wanted to simply exterminate, he gave Jehovah’s Witnesses a declaration for renouncing their faith and they could sign it and walk free. What most did not know is that any who did, were taken out and shot. Hitler hated JW more than he hated the Jews because he could not control them, even with the threat of torture and death.
My brothers by and large stood firm, even in the face of immediate execution and did not sign.
This is turn prompted many guards and Jewish inmates to seek out Jehovah’s Witnesses after the war and become part of our brotherhood, witnessing their courage and the failure of their own religious institutions to help them.
Like so many, you seem to have such limited knowledge about so many things….and “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”….for so many reasons.
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