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How can I reject the Bible when He is in me and I am in Him as one as we are supposed to be?

Perhaps it isnt I who rejects Him to be like Him? Tell us how you are like the same God as Jesus was l like, as is commanded of you by God Himself?

Tell us plainly how you are like Jesus and have the same anointing from God Himself, born-again of God Himself with that same renewing of mind as Jesus received from Him proven in Matt 3:16.

And if you pray at all, pray that God open in you the very same as He did in Jesus, but you won't pray that at all will you? You know better than to repent of yourself and ask of God Himself. And it is very obvious that you never have asked of God Himself to He would have given you the very same as He did Jesus and all who He is come to personally and open io us who He is and all of His heaven in us. Because it is so obvious that never has happened in you by your own words that rejection to receive from God Himself of the Bible, isnt possible for you, then you have the audacity to say, all that you can do is pray for me to be like you instead of Him.

You need to get a life in the same Father Jesus had his life in.
How many times do I need to quote you saying you reject MOST of the Bible? lol
 

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How can I reject the Bible when He is in me and I am in Him as one as we are supposed to be?

Perhaps it isnt I who rejects Him to be like Him? Tell us how you are like the same God as Jesus was l like, as is commanded of you by God Himself?

Tell us plainly how you are like Jesus and have the same anointing from God Himself, born-again of God Himself with that same renewing of mind as Jesus received from Him proven in Matt 3:16.

And if you pray at all, pray that God open in you the very same as He did in Jesus, but you won't pray that at all will you? You know better than to repent of yourself and ask of God Himself. And it is very obvious that you never have asked of God Himself to He would have given you the very same as He did Jesus and all who He is come to personally and open io us who He is and all of His heaven in us. Because it is so obvious that never has happened in you by your own words that rejection to receive from God Himself of the Bible, isnt possible for you, then you have the audacity to say, all that you can do is pray for me to be like you instead of Him.

You need to get a life in the same Father Jesus had his life in.
Peter called Paul "Our beloved brother Paul".

Paul is my beloved brother too!
 

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Peter called Paul "Our beloved brother Paul".

Paul is my beloved brother too!
Paul is not my brother, his doctrine is different from Jesus doctrine. I have the same Father in me as Jesus had in Himself which simply is Love, the Father of our dispositional mind of Love, it is who we are not what man thinks abut it from their own perspectives at all.

If Paul is your way then so be it, knock yourself out with him, but Jesus way is for me to be of the same Love from God Himself that God is and be in us is the right way for me. It is obvious it isnt the right way for you for your god is flesh instead, and if you will notice, flesh is not perfect, it changes, it returns to the very elements it is formed from. That is exactly why, and if you will notice, Jesus has been absent for over 2000 years and you dont even know why. And if you will notice, Christos, Gods anointing has been here sense Adam and never changes.

Your understanding comes from another such as Pauls own opinions instead of the Christ, God anointed Spirit, and is standing at your door this day knocking, waiting for you to wake up and see Him, for if you would, He will come to you without hesitation and sup with you and be in you, Rev 3:20, and if you actually did and see Him as He is, ye shall be like Him, 1 John 3:2. I did open that door just as Jesus did in Matt 3:16 and He did come to me just as He did Jesus, then I did become like Him instead of Paul whom I used to follow at one time and was exactly where you are in Paul and was my leader instead of God Himself be my leader.

That is so far from your understanding. Why? because you trust what man has to say about it instead of letting God Himself open your spiritual eyes just as He opened Jesus eyes proven in Matt 3:16 that you actually say didnt happen and Jesus didnt need the God of heaven to save him from mans ideas for a god, doctrine that he was rabbi of, to do that what it says that God did in Jesus. It is very obvious by your own testimoney that Paul has the better way for you instead, as you just stated of it.

If Jesus was your brother instead, you would have the same Father as he had. Paul is not your brother, Paul is your god, the one that you choose over the One Jesus chose, and so did I.
 

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How many times do I need to quote you saying you reject MOST of the Bible? lol
And how many times do I need to copy and past what Jesus actually says in it without you trying to edit it with your own understandings of it in carnality?
Glad you admit you pick the parts you like to make up your own god!
Well sense I made this up and wrote the Bible that you say I made all this up, and copied and pasted what I wrote and mad it up, something is bad wrong in your mind.

For your information I didnt make this up as you think that I made it up and wrote it in a bible. So I will copy and past that which you think that I made up for who Jesus said he was in God.

But I do thank you that you think I wrote these things that Jesus said he was in God, at least that identifies me with Jesus in what he said of himself and his God and that I should have the same. You only confirmed that, and I think you for that confirmation to be identified with him in the Father.

Here I'll post to you again that what you say I made up. but to be honest, and the real truth is, I didnt make this stuff up, to you Jesus made it all up. And I agree with you that you think that he did, or I did.

Here is what you say Jesus made up. And as I said, I cant take credit for making this up. all I can do is copy and paste what you say is a made up doctrine, conjured by me and Jesus, we made this stuff up. LOL.

You are really just unbelievable, I dont believe you at all in what you say that I or Jesus made this stuff up.

Read what you say is only made up doctrine.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.


John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.


John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.


John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.


John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”


John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.


John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you


John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.


John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.



John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.


John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
 

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What you are accusing Jesus of in who he said he was in God is not what is the truth for you even though you read who Jesus said he was in God. Should I post and prove to you again who Jesus said he was in God that you say he didnt tell the truth?
read who Jesus said he was in God and call him a liar, not me, as for me Jesus had it right. to you Jesus had it wrong obviously. .

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.


John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.



Not was, still is. And who has received God in us as Jesus did are His living, and walking, and talking Gods living word. But evident not you at all. It doesnt flow out from you as LIVING waters at all. You yourself just said so.


You really know noting to the Bible at all. Note the ( )s between the And -- and father? Those were edited in by mans opinions. You dont have a clue what you are talking about.

All who has received in us God same Spirit are His lflesh, the place He resides. Just confess that you do not believe Jesus in Luke 17:20-21, where the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation,. is is with me, and obviously not you. You dont believe Jesu in anything he said.


Same God is my Father and is supposed to be yours, but that doesnt make me anymore a god than it made Jesus a god LOL. And yes he was freed from the laws of the Jews who made laws to regulate their god, and sabbath, and so forth. That is why they had him killed, to silence him for teachings Gods truths instead. He was made to be sin by these very things that he suffered by these religious folk, just as he is suffering the very same as you falsely accuse him of being a god.


Everyone who is born go God as Jesus was, Born again, are created in His same image, He in us and we in Him ate one and cannot be seperated as you have separated yourself from GHod. And that is of Spirit that He is, our own mind, totally equal to the very same knowledge from God Himself. But evidently not you, you are not inn His same mage of Spirit at all. Your god is who you have made him to be in your own image of flesh instead.


No I actually follow the instructions in it to be what it says I should be in the Father anointed of God, Christos in me, just as Jesus was anointed of God, Christos in him. It would do you well to do the same, be who it says you would be if you let the God of it open in you the same as He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 that obviously didnt happen in your opinion.

You however only need to read it and form your own opions though a mind that is carnal instead of Spiritual that God puts Himself puts in man to know the difference from a god of flesh in carnality, from the God who is a Spirit and resides in man.
Not one verse you wrote shows that Jesus is not as divine as HIs Father.

All the rest is too much gibberish for me to understand.

And you suck bad at trying to tell me what I do and don't believe.
 

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Not one verse you wrote shows that Jesus is not as divine as HIs Father.
Now you are getting it. He was indeed, so are we all who has the same divine nature, Spirit, in us who came to Jesus and opened it all to him as well by God Himself in Matt 3:16. We are born again of His divine nature. Evedently by your rebuttal you are exempt from His ways to be perfect even as your Farther in heaven is perfect.

Gods same divine Spirit is everyones nature that He is in, He in me and I in Him are one just as Jesus prayed for me to be to his God n John 17, just as he was in the Father and the Father was in him as one.
All the rest is too much gibberish for me to understand.
And you dont even know why that you do not understand and is only gibberish to you. What Jesus had to say to the Jews was gibberish to them as well.
And you suck bad at trying to tell me what I do and don't believe.
It isnt very hard to read what you believe now is it? But I do agree it sucks.

And it isnt hard to read who Jesus said he was God either,
 

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Paul is not my brother,
No surprise whatsoever!
his doctrine is different from Jesus doctrine.
No it isn't!
I have the same Father in me as Jesus had in Himself which simply is Love, the Father of our dispositional mind of Love, it is who we are not what man thinks abut it from their own perspectives at all.

If Paul is your way then so be it, knock yourself out with him, but Jesus way is for me to be of the same Love from God Himself that God is and be in us is the right way for me. It is obvious it isnt the right way for you for your god is flesh instead, and if you will notice, flesh is not perfect, it changes, it returns to the very elements it is formed from. That is exactly why, and if you will notice, Jesus has been absent for over 2000 years and you dont even know why. And if you will notice, Christos, Gods anointing has been here sense Adam and never changes.

Your understanding comes from another such as Pauls own opinions instead of the Christ, God anointed Spirit, and is standing at your door this day knocking, waiting for you to wake up and see Him, for if you would, He will come to you without hesitation and sup with you and be in you, Rev 3:20, and if you actually did and see Him as He is, ye shall be like Him, 1 John 3:2. I did open that door just as Jesus did in Matt 3:16 and He did come to me just as He did Jesus, then I did become like Him instead of Paul whom I used to follow at one time and was exactly where you are in Paul and was my leader instead of God Himself be my leader.

That is so far from your understanding. Why? because you trust what man has to say about it instead of letting God Himself open your spiritual eyes just as He opened Jesus eyes proven in Matt 3:16 that you actually say didnt happen and Jesus didnt need the God of heaven to save him from mans ideas for a god, doctrine that he was rabbi of, to do that what it says that God did in Jesus. It is very obvious by your own testimoney that Paul has the better way for you instead, as you just stated of it.

If Jesus was your brother instead, you would have the same Father as he had. Paul is not your brother, Paul is your god, the one that you choose over the One Jesus chose, and so did I.
What's next? Attacking Peter for saying Paul was his beloved brother? Peter was taught by Jesus in person! Do you have any verses left in your bible?
 

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And how many times do I need to copy and past what Jesus actually says in it without you trying to edit it with your own understandings of it in carnality?

Well sense I made this up and wrote the Bible that you say I made all this up, and copied and pasted what I wrote and mad it up, something is bad wrong in your mind.

For your information I didnt make this up as you think that I made it up and wrote it in a bible. So I will copy and past that which you think that I made up for who Jesus said he was in God.

But I do thank you that you think I wrote these things that Jesus said he was in God, at least that identifies me with Jesus in what he said of himself and his God and that I should have the same. You only confirmed that, and I think you for that confirmation to be identified with him in the Father.

Here I'll post to you again that what you say I made up. but to be honest, and the real truth is, I didnt make this stuff up, to you Jesus made it all up. And I agree with you that you think that he did, or I did.

Here is what you say Jesus made up. And as I said, I cant take credit for making this up. all I can do is copy and paste what you say is a made up doctrine, conjured by me and Jesus, we made this stuff up. LOL.

You are really just unbelievable, I dont believe you at all in what you say that I or Jesus made this stuff up.

Read what you say is only made up doctrine.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.


John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.


John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.


John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.


John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”


John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.


John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you


John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.


John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.



John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.


John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Ok, you REJECT the Bible. That's your problem.
 

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No surprise whatsoever!
Agreed!
No it isn't!
Sure it is. Paul teaches that you are just a dirty ole sinner not worthy of the kingdom of God, just as he said he was. And just as Paul saids he took you by trickery, I dont remember Jesus having to use witchcraft, soothsaying, to get people to follow him. When dont cut your hair, men cut your hair. Quote where Jesus made such stipulation on us, did Jesus make such laws?

The big difference is Jesus teaches that we are to be righteous, holy, pure, perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect, impossible to be in sin if you are in the Father and only if God is your Father.

What's next? Attacking Peter for saying Paul was his beloved brother? Peter was taught by Jesus in person! Do you have any verses left in your bible?
Well if Paul was Peters way instead of Jesus being his way, you be the judge of that.

You act as if Jesus needed Pauls opinions to be who he was in God, LOL

There truth is in this -- John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

But you need Paul as a sinner that he said he was be your teacher because you can relate to sin yourself but obviously cannot relate to righteousness by the One who takes away the sins of this world, the One Jesus spoke of above who would do the teaching in you.

You are exactly as the Hebrew were with Moses in Ex 20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

Only you say, let you not hear from God, but hear from Paul and he will keep your beliefs alive. For if yo head from God Himself you would die of your own ways, and Pauls ways and actually come to the same reality as Jesus did I from God Himself in Matt 3:16.

I know I know, Paul was right and God Himself is wrong and not able to teach you Himself. Truth is you would need no man teach you if God Himself was your teacher. Not even Jesus just as was quoted of him in John 16 that you would not have to ask of him anything for HGod would be sufficient.

Think about it, but that isnt going to happen is it, you are set in Pauls ways instead consulting with God Himself. All it takes is a little honest communication with God , and that is what prayer is, communication with Him.
 

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Now you are getting it. He was indeed, so are we all who has the same divine nature, Spirit, in us who came to Jesus and opened it all to him as well by God Himself in Matt 3:16. We are born again of His divine nature. Evedently by your rebuttal you are exempt from His ways to be perfect even as your Farther in heaven is perfect.

Gods same divine Spirit is everyones nature that He is in, He in me and I in Him are one just as Jesus prayed for me to be to his God n John 17, just as he was in the Father and the Father was in him as one.
So you think you are divine now? I wish you would write in divine language instead of this butchered English. You may be understood then.
And you dont even know why that you do not understand and is only gibberish to you. What Jesus had to say to the Jews was gibberish to them as well.
No it is gibberish, because your language and grammar is atrocious. You are writing in tongues with no one to interpret this garbled mess.
It isnt very hard to read what you believe now is it? But I do agree it sucks.

And it isnt hard to read who Jesus said he was God either,
Well you haven't been right yet at reading my beliefs because you already made your presuppositions about me.

And Jesus is equally God as His Father in essence.
 

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So you think you are divine now?
Oh no' I do not think that at all, but I do have the same divine nature of God as my own spirit of mind.
I wish you would write in divine language instead of this butchered English. You may be understood then.
I which you had Gods same divine nature so you would be so confused for spiritually, the mind of God is, is only discerned. The very reason His ways are not understood for you, You cant understand Gods ways at all least He is in you to interpret it for you without you guessing

No it is gibberish, because your language and grammar is atrocious.
Yes, spiritual it is to one who is without His understanding. You cant comprehend who God says He is at all least you let Him interpret it in you.

You are writing in tongues with no one to interpret this garbled mess.
Bingo. and it is in tongues for those who cant underside the spiritual connotation from od same language who is a Spirit. , ironic is that the message in tongues simply is that it take faith to do it. Most dont have enough faith to even speak it, let alone heal the sick.

Well you haven't been right yet at reading my beliefs because you already made your presuppositions about me.
Jesus wasnt right either to the same.

And Jesus is equally God as His Father in essence.
SO are we all who has the same Father as he had. He in me and I inHim are one. John 17, read it, that prayer from Jesus to his God was manifest in me, answered, but evidently not for you.
 

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Agreed!

Sure it is. Paul teaches that you are just a dirty ole sinner not worthy of the kingdom of God, just as he said he was. And just as Paul saids he took you by trickery, I dont remember Jesus having to use witchcraft, soothsaying, to get people to follow him. When dont cut your hair, men cut your hair. Quote where Jesus made such stipulation on us, did Jesus make such laws?

The big difference is Jesus teaches that we are to be righteous, holy, pure, perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect, impossible to be in sin if you are in the Father and only if God is your Father.


Well if Paul was Peters way instead of Jesus being his way, you be the judge of that.

You act as if Jesus needed Pauls opinions to be who he was in God, LOL

There truth is in this -- John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

But you need Paul as a sinner that he said he was be your teacher because you can relate to sin yourself but obviously cannot relate to righteousness by the One who takes away the sins of this world, the One Jesus spoke of above who would do the teaching in you.

You are exactly as the Hebrew were with Moses in Ex 20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

Only you say, let you not hear from God, but hear from Paul and he will keep your beliefs alive. For if yo head from God Himself you would die of your own ways, and Pauls ways and actually come to the same reality as Jesus did I from God Himself in Matt 3:16.

I know I know, Paul was right and God Himself is wrong and not able to teach you Himself. Truth is you would need no man teach you if God Himself was your teacher. Not even Jesus just as was quoted of him in John 16 that you would not have to ask of him anything for HGod would be sufficient.

Think about it, but that isnt going to happen is it, you are set in Pauls ways instead consulting with God Himself. All it takes is a little honest communication with God , and that is what prayer is, communication with Him.
I'll take Paul's, Peter's Words over yours any day! What are your credentials? None maybe?
 

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I'll take Paul's, Peter's Words over yours any day! What are your credentials? None maybe?
I know and agree with you in that, you are very clear in that that Paul and Peter is your way instead of Jesus in his ways, and do understand why, even though I have Jesus ways as my own, instead of Pauls or Peters is a false doctrine for you obviously.
 

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I know and agree with you in that, you are very clear in that that Paul and Peter is your way instead of Jesus in his ways, and do understand why, even though I have Jesus ways as my own, instead of Pauls or Peters is a false doctrine for you obviously.
So you're saying Jesus was a POOR teacher, who taught Luke, Peter and Paul! Again, no surprise!
 

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Oh no not at all, You are, that is why you prefer Paul and Peter over Jesus ways.
Don't you know what Jesus said about Paul???

Acts 9:15
15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.

Attacking the Christian Bible is a SURE way to burn in Hell Fire FOREVER!
 
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Don't you know what Jesus said about Paul???
No. Jesus didnt even know Paul. Jesus was dead when Paul made the scene.
Acts 9:15
15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.

Attacking the Christian Bible is a SURE way to burn in Hell Fire FOREVER!
Yes, and most attack Jesus Christ in who he said you should be in the same God as he was of and do the very same as he did in his God that he called Father. And walk as he walked in God same light, perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Very few even listen to what Jesus said of himself and his GHod who sent him that you might receive the same from God as he did.

Burn in Hell fire forever?

Jesus said the kingdom of God which is heaven or hell, He created both. Is 45:7. does not come with observation, it is with you. SO either you live in Gods heaven to be like Him, which simply is Love for God is Love, or you have your own ideas for a god and live in your own hell that is not of Love that God is.

A far as Gods fire, Everyone who is born again goes through His fire, it is cleansing, and all your sins are cast into that fire burned up never to be remembered any pore, and you come out the other Sid where God lives within, perfect even as God in heaven is perfect, Matt 5:48, righteous, holy, pure, and without sin, cannot soon because you would be born of God. 1 John 3:9.

You just do not believe Jesu is all, that Gods kingdom doesnt come with observation as a lake of fire that burns upon your mortal body LOL. It burns up all those impurities of your own will of mind for a god that you can control instead. Just as you see hell as a fiery furnace to throw you in. Your understanding is very elementary and of man instead of Gods knowledge about it. that is why Jesus said you must be born again with that renewing of mind that only God Himself can open in you. But as long as you resist Him and have your own ideas for it in carnality, you never will know Gods Spiritual connotations for it.

As you said, attacking who God is in the Bible and who Jesus was in it, is to attack God Himself denying to be exactly like Him and in His same image as Jesus was and some others were who received the same Spirit of God in them and walked as Jesus did in it.
 

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No. Jesus didnt even know Paul. Jesus was dead when Paul made the scene.

Yes, and most attack Jesus Christ in who he said you should be in the same God as he was of and do the very same as he did in his God that he called Father. And walk as he walked in God same light, perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Very few even listen to what Jesus said of himself and his GHod who sent him that you might receive the same from God as he did.

Burn in Hell fire forever?

Jesus said the kingdom of God which is heaven or hell, He created both. Is 45:7. does not come with observation, it is with you. SO either you live in Gods heaven to be like Him, which simply is Love for God is Love, or you have your own ideas for a god and live in your own hell that is not of Love that God is.

A far as Gods fire, Everyone who is born again goes through His fire, it is cleansing, and all your sins are cast into that fire burned up never to be remembered any pore, and you come out the other Sid where God lives within, perfect even as God in heaven is perfect, Matt 5:48, righteous, holy, pure, and without sin, cannot soon because you would be born of God. 1 John 3:9.

You just do not believe Jesu is all, that Gods kingdom doesnt come with observation as a lake of fire that burns upon your mortal body LOL. It burns up all those impurities of your own will of mind for a god that you can control instead. Just as you see hell as a fiery furnace to throw you in. Your understanding is very elementary and of man instead of Gods knowledge about it. that is why Jesus said you must be born again with that renewing of mind that only God Himself can open in you. But as long as you resist Him and have your own ideas for it in carnality, you never will know Gods Spiritual connotations for it.

As you said, attacking who God is in the Bible and who Jesus was in it, is to attack God Himself denying to be exactly like Him and in His same image as Jesus was and some others were who received the same Spirit of God in them and walked as Jesus did in it.
You must have a TINY bible. You're better of writing your own bible to please you instead of CHOPPING the Christian Bible to pieces!

Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Do you go to the same church as stevie?
 

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You must have a TINY bible.
I do indeed. Mine contains only who Jesus said he was in God and that we are supposed to have the same from God as he had from Him.

As for me by identification with the same God in me was was in Christ Jesus, Jesus is the way in the Father for me.

If you take everything out of that bible except what Jesus said of himself and his God he was of Who sent him to show us the way to his God, you also would have a true and tiny bible witch-out all these others opinions about it.

You're better of writing your own bible to please you instead of CHOPPING the Christian Bible to pieces!
Instead of me writing a bible as all of these we read of who did would be a waste of time For Jesus already had it all right. Why would I want to change what Jesus said of himself and his GHod that he could do nothing at all without. nor can I. It would be useless to try to write it. But I can give testimony how God Himself changed my life just as Jesus gave testimony for how God changed his, from the Bible he that he once taught as rabbi, to actually being of the God of heaven in Matt 3:16.

Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
That's what Im talkin bout. Why change who Jesus said he was in God and that I am in God the same? That would be really foolish to even think of changing who Jesus was and God is and I am of the same One.

Do you go to the same church as stevie?
Go to church? I am His church and so are we all who has the same from God as Jesus had from Him. We are anointed of God Himself, not some preacher from a pulpit that people pay a man to hear god for them. LOL.

What church did Jesus go to? Catholic, Mormon, Jehovah witness, Baptist, methodist, AOG, COC, Muslim, ? Which church did Jesus go to? LOL. You dont have a clue about anything Jesus said. All that you know is what man said about him from their own ideas about it.

BTY who is Stevie? LOL