Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

[Spiritual Israelite]

Matthew 22 may give you insight.

That's what I referenced in my post. Why are you acting as if you are bringing something to my attention to look at when I was already using Matthew 22:1-13 to make my point? Can you address what I said in post #197 about Matthew 22:1-13?

 

[Gray_Joy]

No, I'm saying I think you questioned whether that can be the case, not that you said it is the case. I'm pretty sure it was you who asked that question.

I don't question our being eternally sealed. I may have asked someone if they think they can become unsealed. However,I have never questioned whether or not being sealed is eternal.

You're mistaken if that latter part is what you recall of any of my posts.

 

[Gray_Joy]

That's what I referenced in my post. Why are you acting as if you are bringing something to my attention to look at when I was already using Matthew 22:1-13 to make my point? Can you address what I said in post #197 about Matthew 22:1-13?

I think if you read Matthew 22 carefully you'll understand what it means for the difference between those who feel called to be in the faith,as compared to those whom God calls into his grace.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I don't question our being eternally sealed.

I didn't say you did. I wish I knew why you have so much trouble understanding what people are saying.

I may have asked someone if they think they can become unsealed.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you did and that's all I'm saying.

However,I have never questioned whether or not being sealed is eternal.

Never said you did.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

The Judgment Seat Of Christ?

Who appears there ?

Good Bible study:

The unsaved will stand before the judgment seat of Christ

Are you sure?:

The Judgment Seat Of Christ:​

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall​

receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers​

together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.​

According to The Grace Of God Which Is Given Unto me, as a wise masterbuilder,​

I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take​

heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that​

is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.​

​

Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,​

stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because​

it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

​

If any man's work abide which he hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.​

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;​

yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

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Only For The Body Of Christ [ Grace believers ], as UNbelievers Are Not "co-laborers With God", eh?

​

According to The Revelation Of The Mystery

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)​

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According To Prophecy

The Great White Throne Judgment​

​

"And I saw A Great White Throne, and Him That Sat on it, from Whose Face the earth​

and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead,​

small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was​

opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which​

were written in the books, according to their works.​

​

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead​

which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death​

and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not​

found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:11-15 AV)​

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Only for all UNbelievers of all ages. Correct?

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

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[Spiritual Israelite]

I think if you read Matthew 22 carefully you'll understand what it means for the difference between those who feel called to be in the faith,as compared to those whom God calls into his grace.

Who told you I haven't read it carefully? I have. What does an invitation imply? Do you think the invitation God offers is disingenuous? I sure don't. That's not the God I know. So, what it portrays is God's offer of salvation to all people that every person must decide whether to accept or reject.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.

 

[Gray_Joy]

I didn't say you did. I wish I knew why you have so much trouble understanding what people are saying.

No difficulty on my part.
You just don't accept what is said.
That is your issue,not mine.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you did and that's all I'm saying.

You have no point there. If I said it,so what?

Never said you did.

You tried.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Good Bible study:

Are you sure?:

Yes. Read my post #2 in this thread and let me know your thoughts on what I said there. Matthew 25:31-46 is very clear that both the saved and unsaved will appear before Jesus for judgment. Don't complicate simple things for no reason.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No difficulty on my part.
You just don't accept what is said.
That is your issue,not mine.

You are the one who misunderstood what I said, so you are having difficulty understanding what is being said. I never said that you ever said that the sealed can be unsealed. I only said that you or possibly someone else asked the question about that. I can't recall who it was. It may have been @PeterAndroz instead of you. I never said I knew for sure, but Grailhunter was saying I said it, which I didn't.

You have no point there. If I said it,so what?

Because Grailhunter attributed what you or someone else said to me.

 

[Gray_Joy]

You are the one who misunderstood what I said, so you are having difficulty understanding what is being said. I never said that you ever said that the sealed can be unsealed. I only said that you or possibly someone else asked the question about that. I can't recall who it was.


Because Grailhunter attributed what you or someone else said to me.

I won't entertain any further someone who hankers for conflict.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I won't entertain any further someone who hankers for conflict.

That's not what I'm doing. Someone attributed a comment that I didn't make to me, so I was correcting that. I only said I thought you were the one who said it, but I wasn't sure. How does that equate to me "hankering" for conflict. I'm not.

 

[jeffweeder]

That's not what I'm doing. Someone attributed a comment that I didn't make to me, so I was correcting that. I only said I thought you were the one who said it, but I wasn't sure. How does that equate to me "hankering" for conflict. I'm not.

Who wouldn't correct an error like that?

I am being totally ignored. Do not know what is worse.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Who wouldn't correct an error like that?

I am being totally ignored. Do not know what is worse.

There's more to it than what they alluded to.
I'm the one who was erroneously represented by SI.
Not SI.

 

[jeffweeder]

There's more to it than what they alluded to.
I'm the one who was erroneously represented by SI.
Not SI.

maybe we should talk about the OP

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There's more to it than what they alluded to.
I'm the one who was erroneously represented by SI.
Not SI.

I did not say you for sure that you were the one who said what Grailhunter claimed that I said. I made that clear. Why are you acting as if I said for absolute certain that you were the one who said it? My main point to him is that I didn't say it and I was just guessing who had said it. I think, as it turns out, it was something that someone said to you rather than you having said it. Whatever. Let's move on.

 

[rwb]

I won't entertain any further someone who hankers for conflict.

I agree! When the temp climbs it's better to end the discussion, because it's so easy in these discussions to retort in kind. When that happens, we no longer resemble Christians debating doctrine, and more like we're doing the bidding of Satan!

 

[Gray_Joy]

maybe we should talk about the OP

Agreed. I simply replied to your query.

 

[Gray_Joy]

I agree! When the temp climbs it's better to end the discussion, because it's so easy in these discussions to retort in kind. When that happens, we no longer resemble Christians debating doctrine, and more like we're doing the bidding of Satan!

True.
We Christians love God with a passion.
It is because of that I believe is why the adversary hopes to challenge us as we live the life Jesus lays before us. If the adversary can tempt us,as he dated do to Jesus himself during the fasting, and lead us to sin,he will think he's won.

 

[PeterAndroz]

The Judgment Seat Of Christ?

Good Bible study:

Are you sure?:

The Judgment Seat Of Christ:​

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall​

receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers​

together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.​

According to The Grace Of God Which Is Given Unto me, as a wise masterbuilder,​

I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take​

heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that​

is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.​

​

Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,​

stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because​

it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

​

If any man's work abide which he hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.​

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;​

yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

​

Only For The Body Of Christ [ Grace believers ], as UNbelievers Are Not "co-laborers With God", eh?

​

According to The Revelation Of The Mystery

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)​

​

According To Prophecy

The Great White Throne Judgment​

​

"And I saw A Great White Throne, and Him That Sat on it, from Whose Face the earth​

and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead,​

small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was​

opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which​

were written in the books, according to their works.​

​

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead​

which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death​

and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not​

found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:11-15 AV)​

​

Only for all UNbelievers of all ages. Correct?

-----------
And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

​

Thanks for the reply GA and I'm always happy to be corrected by Scripture.
Have I correctly understood your response ?
JSOC is only for believers saved & sealed by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 Gospel taught by Paul
Believers saved B4 Pauls Gospel or after 1 Thess 4:17 are judged elsewhere

 

[PeterAndroz]

Why are some of you continually taking statements of fact found in the Bible and making them conditional statements as though they teach one who is born again by grace through faith might fall away and lose the eternal life they received the moment they were born again??? Christ would not say the life we receive when we have been born again is ETERNAL LIFE if our ETERNAL LIFE could be lost! It would not be called ETERNAL if it does not last always and forever!

"making them" or maybe simply trying to understand :)
1 Cor 15:1-4
What is the condition required to be saved ? Belief
Is that not a contract ?
Does a person remain saved if they later no-longer believe (break the contract) ?
eg A bank loan condition is insurance, no insurance = give back the loan

1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: