We've seen two evangelical allies of Trump taken down by scandals recently. I won't be surprised if there are more.
Kamala Harris Is Not Eligible to Be Vice-President of the United States
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bukka
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I think you're right, Giuliano. I think that Paula White and Kenneth Copeland may be the next two. They are accidents waiting to happen, regrettably.
Bobby Jo
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Isn't it interesting that the Democrats pointed at Page, Flynn, and Trump; but the TRUTH points at Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Yates, Rosenstein, Rice, Comey, McCabe, Clinesmith, Strzok, Page, and undoubtedly others.
Obama is a CRIMINAL, -- who will find himself financially BANKRUPT for all his legal expenses, and DEAD at a relatively early age -- Ref. Psalms 109.
The first to fall is the most obvious, Clinesmith. Yates has already turned against Comey; McCabe against Rosenstein; Comey and McCabe have both blamed each other; and Page has distanced herself from her former lover, Strzok.
Do ya love it when their secrets are shouted from the roof tops? Luke 12:3
Bobby Jo
bukka
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Considering again the OP, if this OP could possibly be true in respect to Kamala Harris, wouldn't it be applicable to Ted Cruz?
Remember that during the 2016 Presidential campaign, Donald Trump accused Ted Cruz, born in Calgary, Canada, of being an illegal alien and, also, that his father, Rafael Cruz was involved in the John F. Kennedy assassination. Doesn't all this make Ted Cruz a non-citizen since, if Trump's accusations are to be considered true, that Ted Cruz and his father have their allegiances elsewhere and are actually Cubans masquerading as American citizens?
If we accept that Ted Cruz and his father are American citizens, I think that we should easily accept Kamala Harris as an American citizen, as well.
We were discussing who's a citizen and eligible to run for President and Vice President. The fact is Trump lied about Obama, and now one of his underlings is lying about Harris. Do try to focus.Isn't it interesting that the Democrats pointed at Page, Flynn, and Trump; but the TRUTH points at Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Yates, Rosenstein, Rice, Comey, McCabe, Clinesmith, Strzok, Page, and undoubtedly others.
Obama is a CRIMINAL, -- who will find himself financially BANKRUPT for all his legal expenses, and DEAD at a relatively early age -- Ref. Psalms 109.
The first to fall is the most obvious, Clinesmith. Yates has already turned against Comey; McCabe against Rosenstein; Comey and McCabe have both blamed each other; and Page has distanced herself from her former lover, Strzok.
Do ya love it when their secrets are shouted from the roof tops? Luke 12:3
Bobby Jo
Don't hold your breath waiting for Obama to die bankrupt.
Bobby Jo
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The TRUTH points at Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Yates, Rosenstein, Rice, Comey, McCabe, Clinesmith, Strzok, Page, and undoubtedly others.
Obama is a CRIMINAL, -- who will find himself financially BANKRUPT for all his legal expenses, and DEAD at a relatively early age -- Ref. Psalms 109.
The first to fall is the most obvious, Clinesmith. Yates has already turned against Comey; McCabe against Rosenstein; Comey and McCabe have both blamed each other; and Page has distanced herself from her former lover, Strzok.
Obama is a CRIMINAL, -- who will find himself financially BANKRUPT for all his legal expenses, and DEAD at a relatively early age -- Ref. Psalms 109.
The first to fall is the most obvious, Clinesmith. Yates has already turned against Comey; McCabe against Rosenstein; Comey and McCabe have both blamed each other; and Page has distanced herself from her former lover, Strzok.
But you aren't here to address the TRUTH, now are you?!? [Rhetorical question.]
Bobby Jo
Bobby Jo
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It's appears to be in Scripture, and given the choice -- Scripture doesn't lie, but men do.
Bobby Jo
Comes down to evidence. Infuriating, it may be, but there you are. Flynn is apparently not out of the woods yet, in spite of Trump's efforts to save him. The judges seem unwilling to let him out of his conviction.
There's that E-word, again... "evidence." You need some to back up your beliefs.
Like Trump did six, or was it seven times? There's another reckoning coming when he leaves office.
And it's not just a comforting fantasy; it's real.
You think Psalms 109 is about Obama? When did he ever tell lies about David? When did Obama pick a fight with David?
Psalm 109:2 For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
Maybe you need to lay off drinking so much bleach.
Trump lied about Obama. He lied about Ted Cruz. He's lied about a lot of people. Deal with it. Obama didn't make up crazy stories about Trump being an alien -- although I might believe it if Obama told me Donald Trump was a space alien and not a human.
Bobby Jo
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Why do you ask questions and then stop your ears? Are you afraid of the TRUTH? Is your politics your TRUE religion? -- You can't serve GOD and mammon, and it's clear which one you've chosen.
-- Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Yates, Rosenstein, Rice, Comey, McCabe, Clinesmith, Strzok, Page, and undoubtedly others. --
Bobby Jo
I repeat: Psalms 109 is not about Obama, and you're mad if you think it is. Politics is not my religion. It seems to me maybe politics is your religion if you are willing to stretch Psalms 109 to mean Obama. How far out there can you get? Well, you have been further out when you said you thought Trump was one of the two witnesses! Talk about making politics into your religion! You see a crook and think he's been anointed by God just because money-grubbing ministers surrounding him have said, "Oh, he's changed now." He has not changed: He remains the foul-mouthed lying person he was before.
If you want to discuss choosing between God and mammon, it might make an interesting thread. We could say a lot about which Trump has chosen and the shabby methods he's used to get it. What amazes me is how so many Christians are impressed by his money.
@Giuliano I was unimpressed by Jerry Falwell's fundraising for the Contras, decades back. But then again, if someone has money, or money-raising publicity skills, it seems that somehow a lot of ppl called evangelical suddenly get tolerant of incongruous relations between wealth and influence on the one hand and Scripture-rooted doctrine on the other.
Like you said, good for another thread maybe.
It could make a very interesting thread. People might be surprised how much money "churches" get from the government.
Bobby Jo
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You, my dear "friend" are IGNORANT. And as the saying goes: Ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever.
Bobby Jo
Bobby Jo
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The same folk seemed to want Martin Indyk as US Ambassador to Israel (who wasn't even American and who hastily had to become one); because they are influential, he duly became US Ambassador to Israel.
Bobby Jo
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Does Psalm 109 really mention President Obama?
Does Psalms 44 mention the "Holocaust"? Does Psalms 45 mention the "U.S."? "Does Psalms 48 mention the State of "Israel"? Does Psalms 91 mention "Desert Storm"? -- Or are they just DESCRIBED?
Bobby Jo
Umm...I don't see any...any...direct reference to the United States in Scripture; really I don't.
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