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Why not?aspen said:All I have said is that I do not believe the creation story is literal.
Do you believe Adam and Eve were literal people?
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Why not?aspen said:All I have said is that I do not believe the creation story is literal.
At least someone is going back to the topic of the OP.Mr.Bride said:You turn any little ones away from His Word with that damnable teaching of evolution or try to discredit His truth it'd be better for you to use one as a necklace and dive in the Atlantic. And thats not just for you. If that shoe fits anybody, lace up.
I don't think you understood the point she was trying to make.ChristianJuggarnaut said:A quick internet search tells me that according to science the sky contains all colors visible to the human eye.
So, it is blue as well as plaid.
i believe science can reveal God's mysteries of how creation was made but we in our ignorance believe we know more then God and this causes us to be lead astray. second we are to be imitators of Christ yet we tell our kids to do as i say and not as i do which causes the kids to call us hypocrites and as a result leave the Lord. also when we are asked a question about God and we don't know the answer which in turn causes us to not answer the question results in a lot of people believing God does not have answers to their problems and so they quit believing in God.River Jordan said:At least someone is going back to the topic of the OP.
In my experience, it's not "that damnable teaching of evolution" that's leading kids astray, it's teaching them things like young-earth creationism and telling them that they have to believe all of it, or else they might as well be atheists. Having them deny so much reality leads to displays of staggering denialism and hubris, such as what's shown in this thread.
It puts me in mind of something I read a while ago....If the Bible said the sky was plaid, some people would never look up, yet would angrily argue against anyone who dared to look and say "Actually, it's blue".
Still waiting.Mr.Bride said:River Jordan, you wanna know where you lied? I believe you already know though.
Where did I say that?Mr.Bride said:You said the creation account in Genesis isn't Truth. A lie from the pits of hell.But you already knew that though...
For real? That's been your purpose since you've joined this board. To discredit the Word. Sounding like an atheist in disguise.River Jordan said:Where did I say that?
If this was a serious request for information, you would click on the Berkeley website link I provided - everything written on that website is equally compelling - it is meaningless to rank it, especially if you are going to pick a apart my reposts (from the site) and muddy the waters when you are unable to address them.Suhar said:Well WHAT IS IT that is so COMPELLING? You want to keep it to yourself? You do not want to share? Not very nice of you! Maybe I want to be "compelled" too!
You are the hostile person in this conversation. I have nothing to prove. I am not advocating for belief or denial in literalism or evolution - I care less what you choose to believe. The only issue I care about is people like yourself adding to the requirements of salvation without authority. Demanding with hostility, masquerading as righteous fervor that everyone must conform to your standard of literal scripture interpretation. This is the millstone I am talking about - not scripture itself, as you implied.So far the only "evidence" you have provided is you snarky attitude talking down to me as if I am an idiot. Not very "compelling" to say the least!
Perfect example of my last comment. If I do not conform to your external standard of literalism, I must hate reading the Bible or not believe it is the word of God or arrogantly dismiss the obvious interpretation. I believe the Creation revelation took six days to reveal to Moses - if I am wrong, big deal - God will correct me and we will have a good laugh about it. If you are wrong, I can picture you throwing a tantrum when you are corrected.So, you are saying that you do not want to read the Bible or do not believe that it is a Word of God? Because it is in there quite clearly - SIX DAYS! You actually saying that believing Word of God is a "millstone" Wow!
You directly accused me of lying. If you cannot show specifically where I've lied, then your accusation is without merit. Most people would be embarrassed to do such a thing.Mr.Bride said:For real? That's been your purpose since you've joined this board. To discredit the Word. Sounding like an atheist in disguise.![]()
You believe God created the world the way He said He did? Anything otherwise is a lie.River Jordan said:You directly accused me of lying. If you cannot show specifically where I've lied, then your accusation is without merit. Most people would be embarrassed to do such a thing.
I looked back through this thread (lot of time on my hands today....literally watching paint dry <_< ) and it actually serves to make my overall point.
Can you imagine being a teenager who starts taking science courses, sees the evidence for himself, goes back to his church and is told by Christians....
How can you not leave Creationism if you do not believe in Creator and His Word?
You either believe that Bible is a Word of God or you call God a liar there is no gray area there!
Please stop hiding your dishonesty in biological Latin .
Where in hominid evolution does a virgin conceive?
If 95% if all evolutionary biologists are atheists, are they wrong? If they are wrong about something so important, how do you justify taking their word as gospel in other areas?
Scientists are people too. They have bills to pay. They will say what, whoever signs their paychecks wants them to say.
How do you live in the world where you are nothing more then an overgrown monkey? Terrifying! Do you want a banana?
I have been lied to and so were you.
So, you are saying that you do not want to read the Bible or do not believe that it is a Word of God?
You turn any little ones away from His Word with that damnable teaching of evolution or try to discredit His truth it'd be better for you to use one as a necklace and dive in the Atlantic.
You said the creation account in Genesis isn't Truth. A lie from the pits of hell.
Sounding like an atheist in disguise.
All that is entirely consistent with the testimonies I read before writing the OP. Kids go back to their churches and are aggressively confronted as if they've done something wrong and are presented with a choice....reject the science you learned or else you will not be welcome here.
Some kids are scared into staying....but as the years go on, more and more are leaving. This doesn't have to be.
Yes ma'm!River Jordan said:Yep, that's the sentiment I see among fundamentalists...."Bah! Let 'em leave!!"
And then they look around and wonder why their churches have only old people and little kids, and why so many are closing.
River Jordan said:"The sin of evolution"? Where's the scripture for that?