Lunacy from the Left!

[Prayer Warrior]

It is true some people now argue that failing to obey the police is justification for police to apply a death penalty. But Americans are coming to realize many police officers actually believe they have that power.

And the consequences are now underway.

Who is arguing for this? Show me the post.

 

[Yehren]

Who is BLM? Whom should we consider part of them?

You were pretty sure. Now you aren't?

I think some people want to look at a crowd of protesters holding signs that say "Black Lives Matter", and say, those, who are peacefully marching, that's BLM . . .

Since BLM advocates peaceful protest and non-violence, I suppose that would be reasonable.

those, who have dropped their signs to . . . impede traffic illegally . . . vandalize public and private property . . . intimidate and harm people . . . burn things down . . . no, those aren't BLM.

Since they violate the principles of the organization, I would say not.

So who IS "BLM"?
Is it the globalists who provide the money to provide the infrastructure and pay the protestors?

Show us that. What do you have?

Is it the paid protesters, acting as their agents?

Where can we find the evidence that "globalists" are paying them?
How did the term 'globalist' become an anti-Semitic slur? Blame Bannon

Or is BLM only the "peaceful protesters" who stand by and do nothing about it?

The same argument can be used to say that all cops are criminals because they don't report criminal acts by the few thugs among them. Is that your position, or do you only use it on BLM?

After all . . . what we've learned is . . . "Silence is Violence!" Oh! Wait! We're not supposed to apply that equally to the police! Sorry!

 

[Yehren]

Since BLM advocates peaceful protest and non-violence, I suppose that would be reasonable.

I sort of expected that is what you would say.

One does expect followers of an organization to adhere to the organizations goals, yes.

Violent protesters are not BLM because BLM does not protest violently,

Because BLM deplores violence, it's not surprising that no member of BLS has been found to have engaged in violence. There surely must be some of them somewhere, but their relative scarcity compared to rogue police officers and white nationalists has made it hard to find them.

and we know this because violent protesters are Not True Scotsmen!

So far, all we can say is that no BLM member has so far, been shown to be violent.

But for right-wing conspiracy buffs, must surely be evidence that they are violent.

And you were going to show us the evidence that "globalists" were paying the demonstrators. Would you mind doing that, now?

 

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You were pretty sure. Now you aren't?

I'm asking your idea.

And I'm not promoting antisemitism.

 

[Yehren]

And I'm not promoting antisemitism.

Probably, a bad idea to use the word "globalists" then. BTW, you were going to show us that these "globalists" were paying demonstrators. Could you do that, now?

 

[Yehren]

Who is arguing for this? Show me the post.

Anyone who says that if you don't want to die, don't disobey a police order.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I sort of expected that is what you would say.

Violent protesters are not BLM because BLM does not protest violently, and we know this because violent protesters are Not True Scotsmen! UM . . . I meant, No True BLM!

Good point. They call this circular reasoning. It’s a fallacy of logic.

 

[Yehren]

Probably, a bad idea to use the word "globalists" then. BTW, you were going to show us that these "globalists" were paying demonstrators. Could you do that, now?

You are going to equate my calling out globalists as if I'm antisemitic?

I'm pointing out that it's a term anti-Semites use for Jews.

Where is the limit?

Apparently, they don't know any limits when it comes to anti-Semitism.

You know Soros is trying to eliminate borders and nations, right?

Show us that. What do you have to show that he wants to eliminate borders and nations?

OR do you deny that also?

I'm willing to look at your evidence. What have you got?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Anyone who says that if you don't want to die, don't disobey a police order.

You’re not showing me a post, so can I conclude that no one has said this?

 

[Yehren]

And you were going to show us the evidence that "globalists" were paying the demonstrators. Would you mind doing that, now?

Black Lives Matter cashes in with $100 million from liberal foundations

So the organization then used the money to pay demonstrators? Show us that.

This specifically included George Soros, not to mention others.

Other than ethnicity, what makes you think Soros is a "globalist?" You mentioned that he wants to eliminate borders and nations,but you forgot to show us any evidence. What do you have?

 

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Apparently, they don't know any limits when it comes to anti-Semitism.

I meant your limit.

 

[Yehren]

Do actions have consequences?

Do you think that you can continue to resist a policeman who is attempting to arrest you, and what, you'll get to some level of resistance where they'll just throw up their arms and release you back to the community? "Welllll . . . he's too much a fighter, so I think I'll just nevermind!"

I'm pointing out that even if he's furiously resisting, unless he clearly is trying to harm someone, police still aren't allowed to kill him.

 

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So the organization then used the money to pay demonstrators? Show us that.

Which part are you wondering about . . . whether they paid protesters? Are you thinking that they have not used paid protesters? Or that they used the money donated to do it?

 

[Yehren]

Apparently, they don't know any limits when it comes to anti-Semitism.

I meant your limit.

That was exceeded by a lot of things recently. The murder of a handcuffed man. The use of federal troops to assault a peaceful group of people so Trump could have a photo op. Stuff like that.

Anti-Semitism seems to be a secondary thing with those guys, not the major issue.

 

[Yehren]

Which part are you wondering about . . . whether they paid protesters? Are you thinking that they have not used paid protesters? Or that they used the money donated to do it?

Your claim is that protestors were being paid to protest. I'm just asking for your evidence for your claim. What do you have?

 

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[Grailhunter]

I'm pointing out that even if he's furiously resisting, unless he clearly is trying to harm someone, police still aren't allowed to kill him.

When you resist the outcome is uncertain. That is mostly on you.
On the other side of the coin there is zero reason for police officers to risk bodily harm. This is not a wrestling match where the winner goes free. The suspect is the one that takes the risk. The officer in the video does not look to have a malicious intent, he has his hands in his pockets. The video is actual the best evidence for the officer....he did wrong but how wrong. Did he do something wrong by mistake....He looked to have confidence in the procedure. There were so many there I do not understand why they all just didn't grab him and cuff him. That will all come up. Most these cases are about disrespect for authority and people whining about how rough it looks. It take a great deal of force to deal with a large drugged up suspect.
Then again...
Was this procedure a trained procedure?
Was it a trained procedure by the that police department?
Is it a trained procedure at a police academy?
Was it documented?
Was it a procedure that was well known?
Was it a procedure that can be proved to be non-fatal?
Was this the first time this procedure was fatal?
All this is going to come into play?
And then we are dealing with a police union. All that is going to come into play.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Exceptional! Candace Owens doesn't mince words! I would love to have a transcript of this video.

She makes a very good point about black Americans "martyring criminals." She said that blacks cater to the bottom denominator of their society. She also said that blacks are the most vicious and racist people in this country when it comes to taking down their own. (I have to disagree with her about this when it comes to whites hating on Trump and his family.)

She explains that George Floyd spent 5 years in prison for pointing a gun at the stomach of a pregnant woman, whose house he and several friends forced their way into and ransacked. He also spent time in jail several other times for various crimes, mostly possession of cocaine. She refuses to martyr a man who would do these things....
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[Yehren]

Was this procedure a trained procedure?
Was it a trained procedure by the that police department?
Is it a trained procedure at a police academy?
Was it documented?
Was it a procedure that was well known?
Was it a procedure that can be proved to be non-fatal?
Was this the first time this procedure was fatal?
All this is going to come into play?
And then we are dealing with a police union. All that is going to come into play.

What is going to come into play is the judgement of 12 of his peers. I think it's going to go badly for him. The fact that his lawyer had him discussing a plea deal indicates that the known facts are really bad for his chances of acquittal.

 

[Grailhunter]

What is going to come into play is the judgement of 12 of his peers. I think it's going to go badly for him. The fact that his lawyer had him discussing a plea deal indicates that the known facts are really bad for him.

Define bad.