Lunacy from the Left!

[Prayer Warrior]

The Federal Government did not lock down anything but Federal Government facilities. The rest were by Governors of the States.

The governors called the lockdowns as a result of advice from the federal level. So... true, the federal government didn't force the lockdowns, but they advised the states to call across-the-board lockdowns. I said from the beginning, not just in hindsight, that this was bad advice.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

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Really, another scientific impossibility..so which camp or camps did they use it in the way you have just described..was Dachau one of these camps...?
Let me kick start your memory with two photos then..

The one of the right is THE chamber used effecting for delousing clothing at Dachua...the one on the right are folks in good shape ready to be evacuated from Dachau....


Let me

Oh, my! Like the Nazis were not masters of propaganda?? Is this what YOU think the concentration camps were like? One big happy time?

Here's the photo you posted. I could post thousands of photos that tell the real story of concentration camp brutality--starvation, abuse, death.... Humans beings...women and children...being treated worse than animals. Are you denying this abuse??

 

[Jim B]

These so-called protests are not about injustice at all. They are about the radical destruction of a democracy under the rule of law to an anarchy under the heel of Communism. Communists have shown themselves to be the most unjust creatures on earth, and Antifa, BLM, and all other extreme Leftist groups want anarchy. Not one of them has protested when the laws of the land were being flouted by the Leftist Democrats.

There is no question that there are rotten apples within the police forces of America. But they are no more rotten than the evil black Democratic politicians and mayors, who have done virtually nothing for blacks in America. Baltimore (and many other American cities especially San Francisco) went to the dogs because of these self-serving people. Every city which has a black mayor is a disaster. Every state which has a lawless Democratic governor is a disaster.

Barack Obama is the best example. He used the race card to his advantage at every opportunity, and no white politician had the guts to call him on it. By allowing millions of illegal Central Americans and Mexicans to flood the USA, and then provide DACA amnesty etc., he robbed the black populations of the jobs and benefits which should have been theirs. Not only that, he did not really give a hoot about black Americans. He was totally narcissistic, as well as a traitor. But he was not impeached because he was black.

I am not sure that this even merits a response as it's just rambling on about a litany of untruths. It's just a blanket condemnation of all those with whom you disagree. Those of us who understand the actual situation would never make any statements such as these.

 

[APAK]

Oh, my! Like the Nazis were not masters of propaganda?? Is this what YOU think the concentration camps were like? One big happy time?

Here's the photo you posted. I could post thousands of photos that tell the real story of concentration camp brutality--starvation, abuse, death.... Humans beings...women and children being treated worse than animals.

Sure, you can be the judge this photo, of course and say I lied, and I do not lie as you accuse me here.

Did you know they had movie theaters, comedy clubs, football fields and swimming pools in full view of even local folks living around some of these dreaded camps? Get this, they even had German guards participating with prisoners in sports and activities to boost morale...I have pics of these if you want to see, and then maybe you might think that I deliberately will lie to you again and they are really from some other place and time.....as they were systematically killing off the chosen ones...this part would be sick humor if it were true...and it was not...

Can you now see what a closed mind can do.....even from believers in Christ..Bless you, APAK

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Sure, you can be the judge this photo, of course and say I lied, and I do not lie as you accuse me here.

Did you know they had movie theaters, comedy clubs, football fields and swimming pools in full view of even local folks living around some of these dreaded camps? Get this, they even had German guards participating with prisoners in sports and activities to boost morale...I have pics of these if you want to see, and then maybe you might think that I deliberately will lie to you again and they are really from some other place and time.....as they were systematically killing off the chosen ones...this part would be sick humor if it were true...and it was not...

Can you now see what a closed mind can do.....even from believers in Christ..Bless you, APAK

I never said that you lied. The sad thing is I think you really believe the Nazi propaganda. Honestly, I thought the West was past believing it, esp. after our own soldiers witnessed the result of the atrocities. American soldiers fully documented this.

If we deny the atrocities of the past, we are doomed to repeat them.
.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Liberators: The U.S. Army and the Concentration Camps of World War II

As the Nazi regime crumbled under the combined pressures of Allied armies, advancing American Soldiers made a grim discovery as they liberated the death camps where millions of Jews, political prisoners, and other persons deemed undesirable by the Nazis were sent to labor and die....

[The following are quotes from American military personnel who witnessed the camps.]

It was one of those moments that I can describe in some detail and force because it was so horrifying to walk where those kids, some four hundred to five hundred, were kept. I can’t say ‘housed’, because housing suggests a sense of decency and civilization.

– Warren E. Priest (Hirsch 120)

Yesterday, I saw the most horrible sight I have ever seen. It was a German slave labor camp… We took all the soldiers we could to see it, as I believe it is one of the best arguments against fraternization that I know.

– General George Patton (Ast 102)

Five miles before we reached the camp [Dachau] we could smell death and the decaying bodies. The closer we came, the mood of the unit became more somber.

– Private First Class Ladd Roberts (Ast 105)

I have never forgotten the appearance of these people, that just sat along the walls, you know, up against the walls and just sat there, didn’t move, didn’t say anything to anyone, just sat there.

– Lieutenant William Cartledge (Ast 115)

[There were] two survivors… the awesome thing about their appearance was that they had phantom-like faces, such as I have never in my life seen. Their eyes had receded into their eye sockets themselves… they appeared to be nothing but dark holes in their skull and face.

– Sergeant Joseph Kushlis (Ast 115)

Emaciated, putrefied, covered by insects, flies, maggots, they created an unbearable stench. All around me I saw the consequences of barbarism, appalling atrocities and monstrous slaughter-houses.

–Colonel Weinstein (Ast 117-118)

The overall atmosphere of the camp was one of – I don’t know- they were – deprived of everything; their clothing, their health, their means of survival. They were completely helpless.

– Emory Weston (Ast 121)

We started getting these bodies and we wound up – I was told – the total number was 2000, and we just had them in big long lines and I know our chaplain was just running up and down the lines, just straining and cursing and everything… It was just a silent stink putrid death is… I mean, you know, we would even communicate with each other in whispers and things like that, I don’t know why you do that, don’t ask me, you just do… I guess half my thoughts were really prayers, but right at that point, we were trying to get these bodies out. We were afraid of disease and this kind of thing, and we wanted to get them under the ground and restore some sort of dignity to them, but then we had another mission after that one… I guess really later the profoundness of the situation gradually came to me

– C. W. Doughty (Abzug 40)

My first impression of it was the odor. The stench of it was all over the place and there were a bunch of very bewildered, lost individuals who came to me pathetically at the door in their unkempt uniforms to see what we were doing and what was going to be done about them. They were staying at the camp even though their guards and staff had fled because they didn’t know where to go or what to do. They had heard news that the Americans had taken over that area and they were waiting for somebody to turn their lives back straight again and they were just lost souls at that time. Well, my feeling was that this was the most shattering experience of my life.

– John Glustrom - 333rd Engineers (Abzug 53)

Well you were just in a state of shock really, nobody had ever seen anything like that before. You know, I had been in the service and I had seen men die before. I’ve seen dead bodies, but not stacked up like cordwood.

– Bill Allison - 14th Armored Division (Abzug 92)

The first thing I saw was a stack of bodies that appeared to be about, oh 20 feet long and about, oh as high as a man could reach, which looked like cordwood stacked up there, and the thing I’ll never forget was the fact that closer inspection found people whose eyes were still blinking maybe three or four deep inside the stack.

– Jack Hallett (Abzug 92)

Source: Liberators: The U.S. Army and the Concentration Camps of World War II - Army Heritage Center Foundation

 

[Grailhunter]

You are kidding me right ..you wrote nothing about anything here...a childish rant..

you said "Again the history of this is documented by Germany itself and the locations of the mass graves of genocide are known.
So the gas did what it was designed to do..."

So you must be very happy in your ignorance of such an important topic? Quite irresponsible I might say.

You prove my point, again and again, there is never any sane discussion with folks like you..quite sad.

Who would work so hard to deny this?
What character is behind this?
What belief system is this supporting?
What change in history has to be made to justify your beliefs?
Like I said I know the lingo. Nazi wanna be....Jew hater....white supremacist. Not always but many times associated with drug use, past or present because drugs destroy the mind's ability to rationalize absurdity.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Who would work so hard to deny this?
What character is behind this?
What belief system is this supporting?
What change in history has to be made to justify your beliefs?

I have the same questions. It doesn't make any sense that events so well-documented would be denied.

 

[APAK]

I never said that you lied. The sad thing is I think you really believe the Nazi propaganda. Honestly, I thought the West was past believing it, esp. after our own soldiers witnessed the result of the atrocities. American soldiers fully documented this.

If we deny the atrocities of the past, we are doomed to repeat them.
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PW well then I overreacted..sorry for that....
The reason why I focused on the Dachau camp and I can point to any camp if necessary, it that this one was used as an exhibition a propaganda piece by the West for the world to believe. And it fooled folks for many decades afterwards. Eisenhower was ordered to deliberately make false claims at Dachau. And this propaganda footage was sent worldwide for the purpose to propagate and promote the systematic extermination lie. I I have many docs to show of all this...

This pic you questioned as 'Nazi' propaganda, was taken by a US solider, yes, a US soldier not by a German guard for their propaganda. I also have a pic of many of the Germans of this camp already executed lying on the ground by firing squad. Again taken by a US soldier although deliberately hidden for public consumption. I even have a pic of two Jews that beat a German guard to death.....these pics do not lie...why would these Germans take these pics when they were either murdered or getting beaten to death at this camp.

 

[LC627]

I see that you have a new avatar. Wasn't your old avatar a pic of you and your pretty wife? Why the helmet?

Yes, it was of her and I. I've had that photo since 2018 - I do plan on changing it back to a photo of us but a more updated one . I really don't update photos too often lol.
The helmet is from my military collection and use it on another forum and I like the way it looked.

 

[FollowHim]

Sure, you can be the judge this photo, of course and say I lied, and I do not lie as you accuse me here.

Did you know they had movie theaters, comedy clubs, football fields and swimming pools in full view of even local folks living around some of these dreaded camps? Get this, they even had German guards participating with prisoners in sports and activities to boost morale...I have pics of these if you want to see, and then maybe you might think that I deliberately will lie to you again and they are really from some other place and time.....as they were systematically killing off the chosen ones...this part would be sick humor if it were true...and it was not...

Can you now see what a closed mind can do.....even from believers in Christ..Bless you, APAK

The Germans feared the Russians when they came. Because they slaughtered 30 million in their campaign. Against these murderers and torturers there was no mercy. Whole groups were executed if caught. The concentration camps was just part of a corrupt whole, which fell on theirs heads.

Why even try to play this as innocent or even nice unless you yourself hold the same idiology and want to bring it back. The KKK is just one group very similar, and which will fail because it is based on hatred and lies.

Little wonder protests go on if on a Christian forum this insanity is supported.

 

[Enoch111]

...a litany of untruths...

Sure. Anything that does not fit the Leftist agenda is an untruth. Fortunately the truth is now coming out for all to see.

 

[FollowHim]

I never said that you lied. The sad thing is I think you really believe the Nazi propaganda. Honestly, I thought the West was past believing it, esp. after our own soldiers witnessed the result of the atrocities. American soldiers fully documented this.

If we deny the atrocities of the past, we are doomed to repeat them.
.

What is odd is to deny genocide. Rwanda, Pol pot in Cambodia, the Balkans with Serbian soldiers, Mao and forced marches, turkey and the Amenians, Iraq gazing the Kurds,Syria gasing the rebels.

Denial is old style morality as if people cannot do apaulling things. The wonder is more does not happen. I think believing ones own group is ok matters more than anything.

 

[FollowHim]

Put me on record as not saying you are an evil appeaser....
But "extreme right" is a misnomer. I look for details. What are your details?
As it is now...whether you are left or extreme left it only matters so much. The left backs the extreme left.
How can a Christian vote for a party that more than supports, but actually advocates the slaughter of babies.
Democrats do not sing the hymn of patriotism...they consider this country and its history as bad, and that will not be fixed until they turn it communist and atheist.
It pains the Democrats to even mention God and the moralities of Christianity...For them, the morals of Christianity stand for everything that they are against. You tell me who back them spiritually?
So tell me, what does extreme right mean to you?

I do not know politics in the us.
I think it is wrong to say no believers are democrats, or they are all wrong. The propoganda war is splitting the country which is to its enemies advantage.

There is no way out if the democrats win, if you have demonised them. Is civil war your answer? The USA relies on free speech, is this now gone? The lefts argument about wage gaps, social need are not going away, deal with them or lose. God bless you

 

[Prayer Warrior]

PW well then I overreacted..sorry for that....
The reason why I focused on the Dachau camp and I can point to any camp if necessary, it that this one was used as an exhibition a propaganda piece by the West for the world to believe. And it fooled folks for many decades afterwards. Eisenhower was ordered to deliberately make false claims at Dachau. And this propaganda footage was sent worldwide for the purpose to propagate and promote the systematic extermination lie. I I have many docs to show of all this...

This pic you questioned as 'Nazi' propaganda, was taken by a US solider, yes, a US soldier not by a German guard for their propaganda. I also have a pic of many of the Germans of this camp already executed lying on the ground by firing squad. Again taken by a US soldier although deliberately hidden for public consumption. I even have a pic of two Jews that beat a German guard to death.....these pics do not lie...why would these Germans take these pics when they were either murdered or getting beaten to death at this camp.

Apology accepted, and I appreciate it.

Are you saying that Gen. Patton and other American military personnel who are quoted in my post above lied about the conditions of the camp they witnessed?? Are you saying that Corrie ten Boom lied about what she experienced at Ravensbruck??

Even if these camps never existed, Hitler and the Nazis were the aggressors in WWII, causing untold destruction and death. Do you believe that this is not the case? If so...was it some group posing as Nazis attacking the countries surrounding Germany? Or maybe Poland, Austria, Holland and the rest invited the Nazis to come and be in control? lol

Do you see the absurdity of your position? I fear for you because you have chosen to believe that which is false.
.

 

[Rita]

My grand father was one of the soldiers that liberated one of the concentration camps - he was never able to talk about what he witnessed , not because of denial, but because he hated what he saw.
Rita

 

[FollowHim]

My grand father was one of the soldiers that liberated one of the concentration camps - he was never able to talk about what he witnessed , not because of denial, but because he hated what he saw.
Rita

My dad was 20 at the end of the war. He could not talk about it because it was just too traumatic. Facing this stuff so young when we are shocked by the descriptions. I had thought it was bad, indescribable is probably better.

 

[APAK]

The Germans feared the Russians when they came. Because they slaughtered 30 million in their campaign. Against these murderers and torturers there was no mercy. Whole groups were executed if caught. The concentration camps was just part of a corrupt whole, which fell on theirs heads.

Why even try to play this as innocent or even nice unless you yourself hold the same idiology and want to bring it back. The KKK is just one group very similar, and which will fail because it is based on hatred and lies.

Little wonder protests go on if on a Christian forum this insanity is supported.

FH: I've already begun at least to state my case and this theory of yours you have presented to me, does not hold any water. I'm no KKK no nothing..I'm warning that what happened to Germany and even Poland can happen to the US and other places today....as the slogan may be written..."it's the communists/ leftists stupid"...nothing personal intended for you...just a slogan

Yes, it is true as you say the Germans were afraid of the Soviet communist threat, although way before they counterattacked. The German people were afraid of this evil ever since Russia turned 'red.' This threat was not just outside of their country only, there were already over 6 million of them registered as communist party members within their country by 1933. They held all the important institutions, in their hands. Hitler saw a cancer that needed to be 'cut out' within his country, at least. Can you imagine that for a moment. Over 80 million people and of that figure, 6 million communists right in your backyard. Are there about 8 percent registered communists in the UK, in the US today? I hope not...

Quite a large percentage don't you think. You might just understand a bit why Hitler made secret plans to destroy them these reds- and of course it backfired. The West then suddenly collaborated with the Soviets and we all know the rest of that story. Powerful figures in West were in cahoots with the communists and wanted it to succeed. Hitler saw this already in WWI, his country was now being stabbed in the back a second time.

Now as this thread suggests the left are lunatic. They are much worse. The same propaganda tools are being used in the West today by these globalists, as were used on the German people over 140 years ago. That far back.

These powers behind these communists (of Russia in the past, and China today) and radical left are the same bad actors, the globalist guard began as the ZIONIST JEWS, the political and haters of all Christianity, at center stage of its power, A form of Zionism has been the scourge and evil plaguing this planet since even the 1700s.

The modern version of Zionism was born around the 1890's where my Dad and his folks lived. Literally miles away in what used to be part of Poland and now is part of the Ukraine. A place near Sarny and Biala, NW Ukraine today....

Anyway I agree with the Communist threat, then and today...folks need to be aware who is behind all this mess and chaos today..they now are called the globalists and they mean business..they will do whatever it takes and kill many people to get their control and power over the globe......

And this evil globalism really has it motivation and raison d'etre, in its hatred for Christians above all...they want to exterminate them all....

Blessings,

APAK

 

[APAK]

Apology accepted, and I appreciate it.

Are you saying that Gen. Patton and other American military personnel who are quoted in my post above lied about the conditions of the camp they witnessed?? Are you saying that Corrie ten Boom lied about what she experienced at Ravensbruck??

Even if these camps never existed, Hitler and the Nazis were the aggressors in WWII, causing untold destruction and death. Do you believe that this is not the case? If so...was it some group posing as Nazis attacking the countries surrounding Germany? Or maybe Poland, Austria, Holland and the rest invited the Nazis to come and be in control? lol

Do you see the absurdity of your position? I fear for you because you have chosen to believe that which is false.
.

No need to get carried away here. I do confess that Germany did PSYOPS on Poland and the West initially, and WWII officially was on, soon after some Germans dressed up as Poles and blamed the murder of some Germans on the Poles in a radio transmitter station and other places. This was their false flag to justify their invasion. Now the reasons for this provocation and attack are very significant and complex, besides the obvious reason, that was true, that Poland was isolating a German population area located inside the borders of Poland. Hitler had reason to complain at least as it was going on for years....this was not his big reason though.....it was the Zionist Jew Commies of course, within and outside his country...the old version of the globalists of today.

Now what this lady experiences from Holland must be true although it does not matter here. It does not address the much larger issue here....why the Germans got a bad rap and were hammered on, for many decades and are still paying $$$ to the fake chosen ones....In fact I believe their payments to them have increase this year. Can you believe that paying so called reparations nearly 80 years later....check it out

APAK

 

[FollowHim]

FH: I've already begun at least to state my case and this theory of yours you have presented to me, does not hold any water. I'm no KKK no nothing..I'm warning that what happened to Germany and even Poland can happen to the US and other places today....as the slogan may be written..."it's the communists/ leftists stupid"...nothing personal intended for you...just a slogan

Yes, it is true as you say the Germans were afraid of the Soviet communist threat, although way before they counterattacked. The German people were afraid of this evil ever since Russia turned 'red.' This threat was not just outside of their country only, there were already over 6 million of them registered as communist party members within their country by 1933. They held all the important institutions, in their hands. Hitler saw a cancer that needed to be 'cut out' within his country, at least. Can you imagine that for a moment. Over 80 million people and of that figure, 6 million communists right in your backyard. Are there about 8 percent registered communists in the UK, in the US today? I hope not...

Quite a large percentage don't you think. You might just understand a bit why Hitler made secret plans to destroy them these reds- and of course it backfired. The West then suddenly collaborated with the Soviets and we all know the rest of that story. Powerful figures in West were in cahoots with the communists and wanted it to succeed. Hitler saw this already in WWI, his country was now being stabbed in the back a second time.

Now as this thread suggests the left are lunatic. They are much worse. The same propaganda tools are being used in the West today by these globalists, as were used on the German people over 140 years ago. That far back.

These powers behind these communists (of Russia in the past, and China today) and radical left are the same bad actors, the globalist guard began as the ZIONIST JEWS, the political and haters of all Christianity, at center stage of its power, A form of Zionism has been the scourge and evil plaguing this planet since even the 1700s.

The modern version of Zionism was born around the 1890's where my Dad and his folks lived. Literally miles away in what used to be part of Poland and now is part of the Ukraine. A place near Sarny and Biala, NW Ukraine today....

Anyway I agree with the Communist threat, then and today...folks need to be aware who is behind all this mess and chaos today..they now are called the globalists and they mean business..they will do whatever it takes and kill many people to get their control and power over the global......

And this evil globalism really has it motivation and raison d'etre, in its hatred for Christians above all...they want to exterminate them all....

Blessings,

APAK

You sound like Alex Jones.
Microsoft, Google, Amazon are globalists and American. Take Ford and General motors,MetLife, American Express, McDonalds ...... Which globalists are ok, being the only super power left?

I wonder what paranoia does to people. The USA has lost its identity and way. What is American culture now? Trump or Obama? Afghanistan or Iraq? Failure in the war on terror and the war on drugs. Capitulation to the internet and pornography. Climate change denial, with cities flooding, droughts growing, farmland disappearing, other cultures becoming the majority. A second language, Spanish and the nation becoming obese and dying young........The future looks bleak, a depression similar to the great depression of the 30's? Are you ready?