Lunacy from the Left!
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Well, Yehren, since you know everything, you KNOW that the policeman intended to the kill the guy, right?? You drive me to sarcasm with your incessant liberal gibberish.
Tell ya what? Why not leave it to the judge and jury who try this case to determine if the officer is guilty of murder, okay?
Um . . . I don't think that's too popular right now. Due process? I don't think people want that.
I think it's been changing for a long time. The more you can get people on the dole, the better you can control them.
I'm reposting this from another thread.
EYE ON THE NEWS
Anarchy in Seattle
Antifa-affiliated activists seize control of a city neighborhood and declare an “autonomous zone.”
Christopher F. Rufo
June 10, 2020
Seattle’s hard-Left secessionist movement has claimed its first territory: six blocks in the Capitol Hill neighborhood.
For the past week, Black Lives Matter and Antifa-affiliated activists have engaged in a pitched battle with Seattle police officers and National Guard soldiers in the neighborhood, with the heaviest conflict occurring at the intersection of 11th and Pike, where law enforcement had constructed a barricade to defend the Seattle Police East Precinct building. Hoping to break through the barricade, protesters attacked officers with bricks, bottles, rocks, and improvised explosive devices, sending some officers to the hospital. At the same time, activists circulated videos of the conflict and accused the police of brutality, demanding that the city cease using teargas and other anti-riot techniques.
Then, in a stunning turn of events, the City of Seattle made the decision to abandon the East Precinct and surrender the neighborhood to the protesters. “This is an exercise in trust and de-escalation,” explained Chief Carmen Best. Officers and National Guardsmen emptied out the facility, boarded it up, and retreated. Immediately afterward, Black Lives Matter protesters, Antifa black shirts, and armed members of the hard-Left John Brown Gun Club seized control of the neighborhood, moved the barricades into a defensive position, and declared it the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone—even putting up a cardboard sign at the barricades declaring “you are now leaving the USA.”
Source: Antifa Activists Claim First Territory in Seattle
Someone's got his knickers wadded. Try to keep it rational, um?
Hmm... he knew compressing the carotid artery for a long time is lethal. The handcuffed victim repeatedly said he couldn't breathe, yet the killer continued to kneel on his neck. When he went limp, the killer continued to kneel on his neck for several minutes afterward.
You figure it out.
Anger isn't a symptom of rationality. Might be an important clue for you.
LOL! No, more like someone got HER knickers wadded! Keep it rational? Okay, please do.
Edit: I would hate to have you on my jury if I were ever accused of a crime.
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I don't think so. Did giving all those wealthy people millions of tax dollars make them more compliant? Romans tried the dole; it merely led to more disorder. Would you like to learn about that?
So they considered him to be "resisting" and applied capital punishment. Saves the trouble of having a trial, I suppose.
The police union was rather unhappy that's what will happen. But I notice that the victim's family and most of the protestors think it's a good thing.
I think Floyd and his family would have been happy if he was given the same consideration, instead of a summary execution.
Grailhunter
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Here is the problem, what that officer did is policy...a prescribed and trained procedure...process. He did it too long.
That is going to be the argument. The officer was showing no emotion in the video so he can argue that he was doing what he was trained to do. Obviously he did wrong. The question is how wrong? Then the problem is everyone wants the highest charge....The higher the charge the less likely they are going to get that conviction. A good lawyer and they may not even get manslaughter.
My father was in WWII. He was the third wave into Normandy (they got to "cleanup" the bodies and body parts). He fought in the Battle of the Bulge, and was with the first group tp shoot off the locks at Buchenwald Concentration Camp. I learned a lot of things about how evil mankind could be. I remember that around age 13, we watched a documentary on the rise of Hitler. I could not fathom how any People could willingly place such a monster over their Country, and go along with such evil! I turned and asked my Dad, "Surely, that could NEVER happen here in the United States! How could they (the German people) allow this to happen!
40 years pass, and I can now see how easily this could happen in the United States and how evil could take over! We are not the Constitution loving, 'Freedom and Liberty' giants I thought we were!
40 years pass, and I can now see how easily this could happen in the United States and how evil could take over! We are not the Constitution loving, 'Freedom and Liberty' giants I thought we were!
It certainly APPEARS that the officer used excessive force, but you would think that if a procedure for restraint routinely used by police departments is known to cause death, they wouldn't use it. Something is not making sense.
He had a secondary health condition. Actually I believe he had heart disease and Covid.
Good post! This is the problem. People think they know, but they don't KNOW, so we get more and more lunacy from the left.
Grailhunter
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In fact it is not known to cause death...that is the point that is in the police officer's benefit. There is no doubt that he did wrong, but police officers do not always believe what they are told during an arrest. Still wrong was done, the question is how wrong. Did the officer look like he was angry and had an intent to hurt him. All that is going to be argued. But trying to get him and the others convict of murder is not likely.
Grailhunter
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Spokane police use neck restraint to arrest suspect that is resisting arrest and they have discussion on this. The problem is if arrests do not occur peacefully there is no way that it is not rough. The point is do not resist arrest. Over the last 40 years the sensationalized police abuse cases involve the suspect resisting arrest. The moral of the story, don't resist arrest.
Footage of March Spokane arrest shows officer using knee-on-neck tactic for about 50 seconds
Footage of March Spokane arrest shows officer using knee-on-neck tactic for about 50 seconds
So they considered him to be "resisting" and applied capital punishment. Saves the trouble of having a trial, I suppose.
The killer applied lethal force to his neck for a very long time. That's what killed him. . . let's keep perspective.
Witnessing the act in progress does make a difference, yes. This is why police are constantly trying to find ways to keep people from videoing them. If not for the videos, the killer would be walking free today. The first police report, before they knew there was video, said nothing at all about the killer kneeling on his neck for all that time, or the victim's repeated cries that he was unable to breathe. Only after the video surfaced, did they come clean about the death.
Yes, the video pretty much did him in. You can watch the execution in progress.
He knew that this was a lethal use of force. The victim begged him to let him breathe. He ignored that. The jury will consider what he intended.
Let's look at all the facts.
An officer with a long record of complaints against him and a history of lethal use of force, kneels on the neck of a handcuffed and helpless person, ignoring his cries that he can't breath and continues to kneel on him, long after he goes limp and unresponsive.
He was arrested for murder. As you know, BLM has documented white nationalists trying to disrupt their protests, and documented white nationalist's use of violence and vandalism to blame the group. No member of BLM has actually been caught doing any of that. But white nationalists have. Still people pretend otherwise. But I know why.
To further divide us and to avoid dealing with the actual problem. That is what is true.
The killer applied lethal force to his neck for a very long time. That's what killed him. . . let's keep perspective.
Witnessing the act in progress does make a difference, yes. This is why police are constantly trying to find ways to keep people from videoing them. If not for the videos, the killer would be walking free today. The first police report, before they knew there was video, said nothing at all about the killer kneeling on his neck for all that time, or the victim's repeated cries that he was unable to breathe. Only after the video surfaced, did they come clean about the death.
Yes, the video pretty much did him in. You can watch the execution in progress.
He knew that this was a lethal use of force. The victim begged him to let him breathe. He ignored that. The jury will consider what he intended.
Let's look at all the facts.
An officer with a long record of complaints against him and a history of lethal use of force, kneels on the neck of a handcuffed and helpless person, ignoring his cries that he can't breath and continues to kneel on him, long after he goes limp and unresponsive.
He was arrested for murder. As you know, BLM has documented white nationalists trying to disrupt their protests, and documented white nationalist's use of violence and vandalism to blame the group. No member of BLM has actually been caught doing any of that. But white nationalists have. Still people pretend otherwise. But I know why.
To further divide us and to avoid dealing with the actual problem. That is what is true.
It is true some people now argue that failing to obey the police is justification for police to apply a death penalty. But Americans are coming to realize many police officers actually believe they have that power.
And the consequences are now underway.
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