Made of Show of Them Openly

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It is my intention to show/prove the substance of our recent discussions concerning the nature of Christ, as being the knowledge which sits behind the Apostle Paul's words above.

Discerning the work of God in the Lord's Body is essential in understanding how God reconciled His children back to Himself.

I will be speaking to these verses and their context in coming posts.

Happy to read your thoughts.

You should begin your own thread. This one already has a topic.

Thank you!

 

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That having been said, we move forward with caution, because Paul understands that death isn't only a matter of entropy, In Romans 5, Paul argued that death entered the world because of the sin of Adam. And so, it appears that Paul closely associates death with sin. (Later in Romans 8 he will employ the phrase "sin and death" in his argument concerning those who have their minds set on the flesh rather than set on the spirit.} He also argues that death reigned among human beings, even among those who didn't disobey a direct command of God as Adam did. They all died even though they didn't disobey a direct command of God. Thus, Adam is the prototypical human being.

Romans 5:12 KJV
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Paul directly connects the fact that they died with the fact that they sinned.

Romans 5:13-14 KJV
13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

He tells us that even though they didn't violate God's sole commandment, yet still sin kills, and they died because they sinned.

There was never any question about this, since all humanity was "in Adam" when he transgressed, and all humanity was corrupted by that transgression.

Claiming that Jesus would have died attributes sin and the corruption of sin to Him, the Holy One of God.

1 Corinthians 15:45-49 KJV
45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Much love!

 

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You should begin your own thread. This one already has a topic.

Thank you!

No, its on topic!

 

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Claiming that Jesus would have died attributes sin and the corruption of sin to Him, the Holy One of God.

1 Corinthians 15:45-49 KJV
45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Much love!

The irony in you quoting this is verse 46 applies to Christ also! All of this section of Scripture is speaking to the risen Lord! Once again you have only proved your inability to quote passages, in context to the discussion at hand.

Heb. 13:20-- "The God of peace, who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THE EVERLASTING COVENANT"

Maybe Marks you have Jesus being raised by some other means, "other" than his OWN blood?

Why would it be necessary for Jesus to be redeemed by HIS OWN BLOOD?

Like I said Marks - you dont want to go there!

F2F

 

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No, its on topic!

Colossians 2:14-15 KJV
14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15) And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

@Behold ,

What does this part mean?

Thank you!

Here the Apostle Paul draws our attention to the basis of sanctification "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of THE BODY of Jesus Christ once for all".

Then in Col. 1:21: "And you that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in THE BODY of his flesh through death".

Eph 2:16: "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one BODY by the cross".

1 Peter 2:24: "Who his own self bare our sins in his own BODY on the tree".

1 Cor 10:16: "The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?"

And 11:29: "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning THE LORD'S BODY".

It is my intention to show/prove the substance of our recent discussions concerning the nature of Christ, as being the knowledge which sits behind the Apostle Paul's words above.

Discerning the work of God in the Lord's Body is essential in understanding how God reconciled His children back to Himself.

I will be speaking to these verses and their context in coming posts.

No it's not. Start your own thread.

Much love!

 

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No it's not. Start your own thread.

Much love!

We are talking about "precisely" what God triumphed over, are we not?

In Phil. 2:8 we have the idea more literally expressed "He became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him.

Your OP is "all" about God making a show of the weakness in this flesh (principalities and powers) and how flesh could not uphold the totality of God's Law, which by the way, condemned man to death, because of what we have already established in the discussions going on in this thread.

"The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. Romans 8:1-3

Just because you have decided to disengage with the content of the OP doesn't mean others have to.

Peace be with you
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We are talking about "precisely" what God triumphed over, are we not?

No.

The topic of this thread was very specific.

having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly,

And I feel this question has been very adequately answered in the body of the thread.

This is not the topic:

and how flesh could not uphold the totality of God's Law, which by the way, condemned man to death, because of what we have already established in the discussions going on in this thread.

Much love!

 

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And I feel this question has been very adequately answered in the body of the thread.

Okay, so you wouldnt have any issue if we continued to elaborate of them then.