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So as long as the mehdi guy says he is born again he has the spirit?The 'spirit of the Most High' will only be in people who are born again.
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So as long as the mehdi guy says he is born again he has the spirit?The 'spirit of the Most High' will only be in people who are born again.
So as long as the mehdi guy says he is born again he has the spirit?
It isn't enough to say you are born again, it involves a choice. Being born again is where we turn our backs on our old life - a life where we have not given much thought to God and have pleased ourselves - and turn to Jesus and ask him into our lives and by doing that we are born spiritually into God's family. It's called repentance. We turn to God, we renounce evil, and all other gods and give ourselves and our love to the King of kings, the LORD of lords and the Name that is above all names.So as long as the mehdi guy says he is born again he has the spirit?
do you think the Christian Churches are free of demons? its hard to believe with all the burning people alive and torture in the middle ages, modern day child sex scandals, and the mega church money preachers. im proud to follow Jesus but when comparing our churches to other religions IMO our churches are worse and have done far more damage than all the rest combined.At this time the demonic beasts that are controlling the other religions of the world, will have their dominions take away from them and Christ, the Son of Man, will be given a dominion over all of the peoples of the earth that they should worship Him and only Him alone. At this time a Rock, in the form of a foundation stone, untouched by human hands will come down from heaven and it will strike the controlling statue "idol" of Babylon on its feet and it will topple down to the ground where it will be ground down into dust and chaff to be blown away by the winds of the earth and be no more.
do you think the Christian Churches are free of demons? its hard to believe with all the burning people alive and torture in the middle ages, modern day child sex scandals, and the mega church money preachers. im proud to follow Jesus but when comparing our churches to other religions IMO our churches are worse and have done far more damage than all the rest combined.
you ever read the story of Hawaii, the Christian missionaries went out to teach the locals about Jesus, 50-70 years later the hawaiian people have lost their country and the missionary descendants own most everything and are getting rich. stories like this make me sick to my stomach.
do you think the Christian Churches are free of demons? its hard to believe with all the burning people alive and torture in the middle ages, modern day child sex scandals, and the mega church money preachers. im proud to follow Jesus but when comparing our churches to other religions IMO our churches are worse and have done far more damage than all the rest combined.
The muslims identify Mohammed as a divine being
Wow tell us how you really feel lolI can hardly believe what I'm reading, who is this Mahdi character? There is absolutely no mention of him by Christ or any believer in Christ and yet here we have a sinful man trying to share in the glory of Christ. This is absolute blasphemy. The OP obviously has no concept of who the person of Christ was. To even suggest that somebody else was the very words of almighty God incarnated into flesh and descended into the world as a redeemer of mankind is absolute hogwash. Mahdi (whoever he is) was just a human being born into existence the same way as everybody else. Christ is the only immaculate conception in the entire history of the Earth and to suggest otherwise is worthy of a stoning to death. The muslims identify Mohammed as a divine being but Mohammed was nothing more than a man that outwardly condemned the hatred and violence of Islam. If you ask a muslim how they should treat a person that has wronged you, they will quickly suggest killing that individual or at the very least attack and beat them severely. If you ask a christian how to treat someone who wronged you, if they are truely christian they will advise you to forgive that person and love them unconditionally as Christ has loved you. It is so typical that a South Asian would try to take away from the glory of Christ. Islam has only been around for 300 years, christianity 2000+ but Judaism has been around for thousands of years Abraham was a Hebrew, Isaac was Hebrew, Jacob was Hebrew and later God changed his name to Israel. If you ask any South Asian they will tell you that they hate Israel people (if he is honest about it); but muslims are incapable of honesty. They hate Israel because Israel is the chosen race of God and if Islam was anymore valid a religion than the sikh religion then Allah would have written his commandments in stone as Jehovah did. I am righteous in abhorring the South Asian race because I believe that the brown race are descended from Esau and Esau was a piece of garbage born of Lucifer. Islamist kill people with no regard for the teachingts of the quran, they are completely dispicable and wicked and have no placde in God's new world (if it ever comes, which I have strong doubts). South Asian people are liars, cowards and absolutely selfish abominations that are completely incapable of any type of righteous living and in the new world order set up by Christ they will be nowhere to be found (completely destroyed and obliterated from memory. Right now, I am outraged and if it was within my ability to confront thjis OP I would take great pleasure in separating his head from his body. Fortunately I live in a civilized country and not South Asia where killing this idiot would be acceptable. I absolutely despise the Islamic race as Jesus does; and there will be no such race or creed in the New world established by God,
The new birth is generated by God....it is a supernatural phenomena....a phenomena so radical the language of 'new birth' is used.So as long as the mehdi guy says he is born again he has the spirit?
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The Koran is the Old Testament plagiarized and edited to make Ishmael Abraham’s covenant son, instead of Isaac, to replace the Messiah with the Mahdi.....with the added ideology of world conquest by the sword....
The new birth is generated by God....it is a supernatural phenomena....a phenomena so radical the language of 'new birth' is used.
God draws us and if we respond and are willing he will instil in us his Spirit....from that point our journey of understanding begins. It manifests in walking a different direction to previous.
Whereabouts in the Qur'an is the Messiah replaced by the Mahdi; and whereabouts does the Qur'an sanction 'world conquest by the sword'?
@Curtis
As-Salāmu ‘alaykum.
I asked: ‘Whereabouts does the Qur'an sanction 'world conquest by the sword'?
In reply, you quote – without comment – these verses:
Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) ...”
Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them ... kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims).”
Each of the following has produced an English translation of the Qur’an:
None of these folk include the words ‘(all non-Muslims)’; or ‘(non-Muslims)’ in their translations, as you have done.
These inclusions – as you present them – are a lie, intended to deceive those who do not realise that parentheses are not found in the Qur’an. In every case – and every translator makes use of them – parentheses are used to clarify a text – or to express a personal opinion, or prejudice (as is the case with your examples).
There is peril is ripping verses out of their context.
Here is verse 151 of sūrah Al‘Imran (in its setting, and emphasised):
‘You who believe, if you obey the disbelievers, they will make you revert to your old ways and you will turn into losers. No indeed! It is Allāh who is your protector: He is the best of helpers. We will strike panic into the disbelievers’ hearts because they attribute partners to Allāh although He has sent no authority for this: their shelter will be the Fire – how miserable is the home of the evildoers! Allāh fulfilled His promise to you: you were routing them, with His permission, but then you faltered, disputed the order, and disobeyed, once He had brought you within sight of your goal – some of you desire the gains of this world and others desire the world to come – and then He prevented you from (defeating) them as a punishment. He has now forgiven you: Allāh is most gracious to the believers.’ (Verses 149-151).
These verses are a reference to the Battle of Uhud, it which it was rumoured that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) had been killed.
Those warriors who ‘desire(d) the gains of this world’ were the Muslim archers. Thinking that the battle was won, they ignored the Prophet’s command to remain in their positions, and instead ran ahead, seeking booty. This allowed the Meccans – the Quraysh; here described as ‘disbelievers’) – to regroup and attack, so winning the battle.
The Quraysh were, of course, polytheists. They are the ones who ‘attribute partners to Allāh.’
Commenting on these verses, Sayyid Quṭb writes:
‘The unbelievers will feel terror in their hearts, because they do not rely on any firm support. They have no power of their own, and they do not enjoy the support of any other powerful source. They have attributed to God partners who have no authority or power of their own, because God has never bestowed any warrant on them.’ (‘In the Shade of the Qur’an: Volume 3).
Where in these verses does Allāh (subḥānahu ūta'āla) sanction ‘world conquest by the sword’?
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