YES!! True believers CHOOSE to trust in Christ as their only grounds of acceptance with God or the choose to reject God!! All their choice!
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This is salvation for the self-righteous. God saves those who cannot save themselves.Dave these are the possible theological avenues here:
A) Man has a choice whether or not to accept Christ. Christ loves all people, died for all people, and whomever shall believe on His name shall be saved.
or
B) God forces himself on some people and not on others. God does not love all people, let alone die for them-- rather some he created just to force to Hell. Even those that go to heaven unconsenting.
You offer salvation only to the self-righteous. God saves those who cannot save themselves.YES!! True believers CHOOSE to trust in Christ as their only grounds of acceptance with God or the choose to reject God!! All their choice!
But unless he first changes their hearts, they will not call on him.Yes!! God saves those who call on Him!! Romans 10:9-13
But only those who he saves will call on him. They cannot discern spiritual truth otherwise.No one can save themselves!! They must call on God!!! Romans 10(-13
This is not the gospel. It is a misuse of scripture presenting it as a ritual for people to use in saving themselves. Similar to Catholicism.God tells us who and how to be saved!! Romans 10:9-13 says all who call on the Lord will be saved!!
You are turning Paul's reassuring words to believers into a ritual for people to trust in for salvation = bad.Why not choose to believe God's word and forget the word of a long dead little 14th century man???
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession
is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the
name of the Lord "shall" be Saved...
Again:This is salvation for the self-righteous. God saves those who cannot save themselves.
This is not biblical in the least. It is a scheme for the self-righteous to use while trying to save themselves by works.Again:
A) Man has a choice whether or not to accept Christ. Christ loves all people, died for all people, and whomever shall believe on His name shall be saved.
or
B) God forces himself on some people and not on others. God does not love all people, let alone die for them-- rather some he created just to force to Hell. Even those that go to heaven are unconsenting.
Nonsense! This is John 3:16! This is the Gospel! This is the God of love.This is not biblical in the least. It is a scheme for the self-righteous to use while trying to save themselves by works.
He wasn't. He was reassuring them that if they are doing this, it's because God saved them. Or they would not be doing it.Why do you think Paul would be telling believers how to be saved???
It's all self-righteousness and nothing to do with scripture where God saves those who cannot save themselves.Nonsense! This is John 3:16! This is the Gospel! This is the God of love.
It is not the god of Calvinism.
Saved with or without consent?It's all self-righteousness and nothing to do with scripture where God saves those who cannot save themselves.
You believe because God saved you. He did not save you because you believe.ROFL!!! There is no need for Paul to tell those that are already saved what to do to be saved!!!THINK!!!
Why not choose to believe God's word and forget the word of a long dead little 14th century man???
Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
God says==That """if""" thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and ""shalt believe"" in your heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man
believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth ""confession
is made unto Salvation"". For whosoever shall ""call ""upon the
name of the Lord "shall" be Saved..