Many Will Follow: The Rise of False Teaching in the Church

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

bdavidc

Well-Known Member
Mar 31, 2025
1,133
1,105
113
67
Charlestown, IN
know-the-bible.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Everybody knows calvinism is heresy if they know John 3:16

Calvinism rejects John 3:16 and claims it's a lie.




How would you know? Have you heard ALL his teachings?

Rather than wade through a bunch of videos I'll just ask up front if he teaches calvinism or reformed theology

It's to the point now where the vast majority of preachers and churches are in fact teaching false doctrine so I have no need to listening to their shuck n jive as they say a few good things and then later get in to the heresy that they espouse

That's why I think I'll stick with God's Word and THE Teacher the Lord sent - The Holy Spirit.
This thread isn’t about Calvinism. You’re the only one bringing that up.

We’re talking about what was actually said, not trying to label someone without evidence.

And John 3:16 doesn’t prove what you’re claiming. It says, “For God so loved the world… that whosoever believeth in him should not perish” ~John 3:16. The point is belief in Christ, not using the verse to attack a label.

You asked how I would know. Same question back. How do you know he teaches it? There’s no evidence given. It’s just being assumed.

Scripture doesn’t tell us to dismiss someone before hearing them. It says, “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him” ~Proverbs 18:13.

And I agree with you on this part. We should stick with God’s Word and rely on the Holy Spirit. That’s exactly why we should deal with what’s actually taught and test it by Scripture, not by labels or assumptions.

“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” ~1 Thessalonians 5:21.

So let’s stay there. Deal with the teaching itself, not what you think might be behind it.
 

Dan Clarkston

Well-Known Member
Dec 16, 2023
3,363
1,224
113
56
Denver Colorado
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
This thread isn’t about Calvinism. You’re the only one bringing that up.

Title of this thread is "Many Will Follow: The Rise of False Teaching in the Church" so it's certainly applicable.


And John 3:16 doesn’t prove what you’re claiming. It says, “For God so loved the world… that whosoever believeth in him should not perish” ~John 3:16. The point is belief in Christ, not using the verse to attack a label.

Calvinists claim the whosoever is a lie.

They claim God has already decided who will be saved and it's only a few people who just happen to be calvinists

Just so you know, God warns in His Word that there would be many false teachers in the end times and that mass deception is the greatest danger in the end times.

So all preachers and churches are suspect because we are in the last days
 

soberxp

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2025
2,631
907
113
43
Xi'an
m.youtube.com
Faith
Christian
Country
China
Gender
Male

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
I agree with what he says about the NAR, Word of Faith and Bethel; but Pentecostalism has plenty of false teaching of their own.
well then pull up a seat cause that list easily gets much longer than that . RCC tanked
man this list can be a real long one .
SO lets just also quickly say ANYTHING in anyway ATTACHED to anything ecumencial , ITS ALL GOING DOWN on the day of the LORD .
I suggest a bible in the hand of every man woman and c hild . Be in prayer and be reading and learning .
 
  • Like
Reactions: bdavidc

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
I agree with what you’re saying. There is false teaching in Pentecostal circles, but that’s not unique to them. You’ll find the same issue across just about every denomination.

At the end of the day, the real question isn’t the label on the church. It’s whether that local church is actually teaching and submitting to the Word of God.

Scripture is clear that deception can show up anywhere. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine… and they shall turn away their ears from the truth” ~2 Timothy 4:3–4. That’s not limited to one group.

So it really does come down to the specific church. Some may hold fast to Scripture. Others drift into error. The only safe standard is to test everything by the Word: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” ~1 Thessalonians 5:21.

Denomination doesn’t guarantee truth. Scripture does.
and now in the last hour a common trend has come upon them all .
It is of anti christ but they do not know this .
ECUMENICALSIM and ITS INTERFAITH .
GO to and BEHOLD what they do in the dark . for they work IN the dark no matter what hour of the day it is my friend .
You wanna know what almost every single church now has in common .
THEY GOING RIGHT INTO ECUMENICSIM . Ye shall know them by their unity calls and love talks
and finding common ground . coupled with much judge nots , as sin is not corrected .
And now even embraced . The only thing they judge , the only thin g they correct ,
the only thing they are not tolerant of , WOE WOE WOE to them , IS THE WORDS of GOD in said bible .
OH they correct THAT . OH they judge THOSE words . And cast out those who bring such words
as being OFFENDERS , DIVIDERS , HATERS .
You wanna know WHO and what is on trial in more and more churches .
OH its not sin . NO they g ets overlooked and accepted for sake of unity .
Oh its not that .
WHO and what is on trial . AND is being condemned as a hater . GOD IS , HIS WORDS ARE , HIS CHRIST IS and his saints are .
HELLO folks , that is exactly where THIS LOVEY DO junk judge not lets all be one stuff has led them .
INTO acceptance of sins and NOW even of other religoins . BUT INTO greater and greater hatred
OF the TRUTH , OF HIS WORDS , OF EVEN HIS OWN GOSPEL , cause that offends , that divides .
THERE is a delusion and this one has come TO UNIFY . TO UNIFY who . THE DECIEVED TO NOW BE AS ONE .
cause the sheep DARN sure aint heeding it .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Politics is always a trick manipulated by politicians. Do you think you can really participate in it?
the ticks called poly will suck the life outta all who sit under and hope in them .
AND I MEAN BOTH SIDES politics .
The unholy tick of the poly do the bidding of an ecumeincal whore .
They will continue to pit and divide
And all the while will flood their own with elements of the same FALSE SOLUTION of an ecumeincal WHORE and her daughters .
All the while the answer will come , the so called solution cometh
OF the religious side . SOON they will cry and howl for a solution
And will heed the king and kings of the very solution they are already buying into .
IT WILL BECOME LAW and the saints will surely bleed when it do .
The religoin will be of the god of inclusivity who accepts them , their beleifs
and their loyalty to its love message and how to attain world peace .
ALREADY its spirit has long been at work . To prepare and make ready a people
FOR ITS ARRIVAL .
AS JOHN once made ready the people by the preaching of REPENTANCE for CHRIST
it has and is making them ready by the preaching of acceptance , tolerance and etc , FOR ANTI CHRIST .
The spirit of the dark elijah makes ready the decieved for to be as one man with on e mind , one heart
one love , one plan for peace in the world .
GET EVERYONE OUT of satans ecumeincal whores ecumeincism AND DO IT TODAY RIGHT NOW DO NOT WAIT .
already they are being led to the lie and prepared unto THE BIG KAHUNA
they will all believe is GOD , IS LOVE and IS THE SOLUTION . only IT AINT GOD at all .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male

Dan Clarkston is only here to start arguments. Just needs to be ignored.​

John came to make ready the people for CHRIST JESUS
but this other dark elijah cometh to prepare all unto ANTI CHRIST .
John preached repentance
IT has preached acceptance
Jesus warned HE did not come to bring peace on earth but rather DIVSIONS
but it has come under the banner of REMOVING DIVISIONS for to unify as one for a message of how to bring world peace on earth .
This spirit is very wise and very clever and it works through the men of the darkness .
It has convinced them IT IS GOD
It has convinced them it is love
it has convinced them all the path is BROAD AND INCLUSIVE
and it has made them all ready FOR ITS ARRIVAL . The very HOUR all we warned was coming NOW RISES .
And through its digital plan , through the AI that will be in control of its digital plan
And its image that can surely speak
IT WILL ENFORCE a NO BUY NO SELL lest one conforms . EVEN NOW IS IT AT THE DOOR .
EVEN NOW ready to stand and to proclaim
I AM THE GOD , THIS IS MY LOVE , LET US BE ONE PEOPLES
and anything that conforms NOT is a threat and a danger to our love and our GOD and our peace n safety .
GET every man woman and child OUTTA ANYTHING connected to anything or anyone in that ecumenical movement .
THEY are being led to THE LIE and to the very one that would make them as ONE MAN , ONE MIND , ONE HEART
ONE LOVE the most rebellios children TOWARDS GOD this world has ever seen .
GET THEM OUT . G ET THEM OUT now . the delusion is c oming in and grows by the hour .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Title of this thread is "Many Will Follow: The Rise of False Teaching in the Church" so it's certainly applicable.




Calvinists claim the whosoever is a lie.

They claim God has already decided who will be saved and it's only a few people who just happen to be calvinists

Just so you know, God warns in His Word that there would be many false teachers in the end times and that mass deception is the greatest danger in the end times.

So all preachers and churches are suspect because we are in the last days
The delusion to unite the deceived grows . It has come to remove the barriers
and to build bridges to ANTI CHRIST . a religion that ALL RELIGOINS can buy into .
As john came to make ready the peoples for Christ and preached the message of repentance
IT has long been at work to make ready the decieved to be as ONE MAN by messages of acceptance .
GET them out . For the love of all that is holy and pure GET THEM AWAY from anything connected to ecumeincalsim
AND NOW . THEY WILL MERGE and conti nue to merge and all will beleive
THEY ALL DO THE WILL OF GOD for to attain peace n safety of the world , NEVER KNOWING
if was of ANTI CHRIST but beleiving it was of GOD . GET THEM OUT . GET THEM OUT NOW .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
no one here can say I DID NOT DO ALL to warn us . GET THEM OUT of anything ecumeincal NOW .
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
37,025
60,720
113
54
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Show me where I ignore any part of God's word.
and now in the last hour a common trend has come upon them all .
It is of anti christ but they do not know this .
ECUMENICALSIM and ITS INTERFAITH .
GO to and BEHOLD what they do in the dark . for they work IN the dark no matter what hour of the day it is my friend .
You wanna know what almost every single church now has in common .
THEY GOING RIGHT INTO ECUMENICSIM . Ye shall know them by their unity calls and love talks
and finding common ground . coupled with much judge nots , as sin is not corrected .
And now even embraced . The only thing they judge , the only thin g they correct ,
the only thing they are not tolerant of , WOE WOE WOE to them , IS THE WORDS of GOD in said bible .
OH they correct THAT . OH they judge THOSE words . And cast out those who bring such words
as being OFFENDERS , DIVIDERS , HATERS .
You wanna know WHO and what is on trial in more and more churches .
OH its not sin . NO they g ets overlooked and accepted for sake of unity .
Oh its not that .
WHO and what is on trial . AND is being condemned as a hater . GOD IS , HIS WORDS ARE , HIS CHRIST IS and his saints are .
HELLO folks , that is exactly where THIS LOVEY DO junk judge not lets all be one stuff has led them .
INTO acceptance of sins and NOW even of other religoins . BUT INTO greater and greater hatred
OF the TRUTH , OF HIS WORDS , OF EVEN HIS OWN GOSPEL , cause that offends , that divides .
THERE is a delusion and this one has come TO UNIFY . TO UNIFY who . THE DECIEVED TO NOW BE AS ONE .
cause the sheep DARN sure aint heeding it .
 

Marvelloustime

Well-Known Member
Sep 15, 2020
7,864
13,067
113
Heaven bound
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Female
and now in the last hour a common trend has come upon them all .
It is of anti christ but they do not know this .
ECUMENICALSIM and ITS INTERFAITH .
GO to and BEHOLD what they do in the dark . for they work IN the dark no matter what hour of the day it is my friend .
You wanna know what almost every single church now has in common .
THEY GOING RIGHT INTO ECUMENICSIM . Ye shall know them by their unity calls and love talks
and finding common ground . coupled with much judge nots , as sin is not corrected .
And now even embraced . The only thing they judge , the only thin g they correct ,
the only thing they are not tolerant of , WOE WOE WOE to them , IS THE WORDS of GOD in said bible .
OH they correct THAT . OH they judge THOSE words . And cast out those who bring such words
as being OFFENDERS , DIVIDERS , HATERS .
You wanna know WHO and what is on trial in more and more churches .
OH its not sin . NO they g ets overlooked and accepted for sake of unity .
Oh its not that .
WHO and what is on trial . AND is being condemned as a hater . GOD IS , HIS WORDS ARE , HIS CHRIST IS and his saints are .
HELLO folks , that is exactly where THIS LOVEY DO junk judge not lets all be one stuff has led them .
INTO acceptance of sins and NOW even of other religoins . BUT INTO greater and greater hatred
OF the TRUTH , OF HIS WORDS , OF EVEN HIS OWN GOSPEL , cause that offends , that divides .
THERE is a delusion and this one has come TO UNIFY . TO UNIFY who . THE DECIEVED TO NOW BE AS ONE .
cause the sheep DARN sure aint heeding it .
@amigo de christo
save-image.png