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Jacob and Leah had no wedding ceremony and yet were considered married after one night , they were not Christians either . God WANTS the couples that have sex to be married does he not ?

They meet the requirements I can find .
Gen 2
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Hebrews 13
4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?

@Jericho won the chicken dinner already .
Jacob had Leah's father approval
I stated "Parental consent is not given"
Jacob & Leah were adults
I stated "Boy & girl, early teenage years"
Jacob & Leah believed in GOD
I stated "Both are UNbelievers"
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Try again Talon :-

What Bible verses teach that GOD would consider the following couple married :-
Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES.
 

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Jacob had Leah's father approval
I stated "Parental consent is not given"
Jacob & Leah were adults
I stated "Boy & girl, early teenage years"
Jacob & Leah believed in GOD
I stated "Both are UNbelievers"
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Try again Talon :-

What Bible verses teach that GOD would consider the following couple married :-
Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES.

Your answer is right here .
Did you know Gentiles are a law unto themselves .

14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:


You missed my question , here it is again .

Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
 

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Your answer is right here .
Did you know Gentiles are a law unto themselves .

14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:


You missed my question , here it is again .

Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
In that case do you believe that GOD considers this couple married ?
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Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES.
 

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It's good to see you're still in the game @David Lamb.

Not here in the UK. The KJV here is published under what is known as "Crown Copyright."
In the UK, the publishing of the Authorized (King James) Version of the Bible is governed by Royal Letters Patent rather than standard copyright law.

There are fundamental differences between a “copyright” and a “letters patent."

Copyright: "The legal protection given to authors and artists to prevent reproduction of their work without their consent. The owner of a copyright has the exclusive right to print, reprint, publish, copy and sell the material covered by the copyright." The New Standard Encyclopedia, volume 3, page 565.

LETTERS PATENT. The name of an instrument granted by the government to convey a right to the patentee; as, a patent for a tract of land; or to secure to him a right which he already possesses, as a patent for a new invention or discovery; Letters patent are a matter of record. They are so called because they are not sealed up, but are granted open. Vide Patent. Bouvier's Dictionary of Law, 1856.

A Letters Patent is about preservation; a copyright is about restriction.

So this is how it plays out in the real world:

Obviously the KJB's crown patent is not the same as a copyright, as it was created before copyright laws. The proof is in the pudding, as anyone may reproduce the text, throughout the world, freely. God had his Bible done before the invention of the copyright. The crown patent simply related to the care and control of printing an accurate text back then and was overseen by the government which 'authorized' the text. That same government, although now liberal, still has the responsibility of guarding the veracity of the text within England. They have always allowed anyone in the world to print it, and consequently could never go back and change their mind and not allow this. Even if one wanted to say it had a copyright, that copyright would be null and void, because they have set the precedent of allowing it to be printed worldwide. One of the legal caveats about current 'copyright' law is that if you do not restrict people from printing your material, you lose your right to come back later and insist that they do. So either way, the KJB, as the word of God, unlike the modern copyrighted versions of the KJB, is not bound.

God made certain that the historic English Bible (e.g. KJB) had the correct "equivalency" long before copyright laws were created worldwide. He makes certain that the antique Queen's Patent is never enforced to curtail its spread in Great Britain.

Besides, godly commentators who did not use "modern versions" believed that Romans 13 is speaking of the civil authorities, which in that time meant the Roman Empire.
Many commentators believe many different things, much of it untrue.

The UK has various laws that apply to married people as you say. Do you mean that Christian married people should not sign a marriage certificate so that the government has no knowledge that they are married? That sounds like being deceitful, which cannot be right for a Christian.
That's a common question. The reason it "sounds like being deceitful" is because one now finds himself in a pickle, the consequence of trying to serve two masters. This is where most folks are today. Rather, believers have an obligation to resist - not to twist the scriptures into justification for compliance with an ungodly government. Compromising with temporal powers can never lead to redemption. Most "Christians" have accepted the unrighteous code of the State, instead of insisting that the State follow the Laws of Almighty God.

What believer would want to inform an unbelieving purported authority about the details of his Godly life?

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2 Cor. 6).
 
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Your answer is right here .
Did you know Gentiles are a law unto themselves .

14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:


You missed my question , here it is again .

Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
Was that YES you do believe GOD considers this couple married or NO ?
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Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES.
 

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"""Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
You answered your question by stating :-
"""Yes , because he attended their wedding .
In that case you would be happy for your 13 yo daughter to have sex with a 13yo boy who both had sex with previous other partners and now are declaring themselves as self-married to each other
 
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Yes , because he attended their wedding .
"""Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
You answered your question by stating :-
"""Yes , because he attended their wedding .
In that case you would be happy for your 13 yo daughter to have sex with a 13yo boy who both had sex with previous other partners and now are declaring themselves as self-married to each other
 
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"""Have you found any Bible verses that teach what God accepts as married ?
You answered your question by stating :-
"""Yes , because he attended their wedding .
In that case you would be happy for your 13 yo daughter to have sex with a 13yo boy who both had sex with previous other partners and now are declaring themselves as self-married to each other
I know a 13 yo UNbeliever boy who would like to 'marry' your 13yo daughter, lets arrange a meet
 
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No , Have you ?
Do you believe the Bible teaches that these 2 would be married in the eyes of GOD ?
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In that case you would be happy for your 13 yo daughter to have sex with a 13yo boy who both had sex with previous other partners and now are declaring themselves as self-married to each other
 
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Do you believe the Bible teaches that these 2 would be married in the eyes of GOD ?
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In that case you would be happy for your 13 yo daughter to have sex with a 13yo boy who both had sex with previous other partners and now are declaring themselves as self-married to each other
Are you ok ? Where did you get 13 from ? You were talking about Colorado and 16 is minimum with parents consent otherwise it is 18 .
 

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Are you ok ? Where did you get 13 from ? You were talking about Colorado and 16 is minimum with parents consent otherwise it is 18 .
Here was my original scenario to you.
Did you not read it ?
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Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES.
 

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Here was my original scenario to you.
Did you not read it ?
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Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce.
Both understand what they are about to do
Both are UNbelievers
Parental consent is not given
Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other
They what they believe self-marry NO WITNESSES
Nah , lets go back to Colorado , nice mountains and crazy laws .
 
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Nah , lets go back to Colorado , nice mountains and crazy laws .
Yes, and in the Colorado scenario, I agree with you, a legally aged couple, legally allowed to self-marry are legally married.
And apparently if legally married as above YET UNBELIEVERS, GOD also considers them to be married.
Hopefully if they were to later become believers they may choose to redo their vows in the presence of the Church :)
 
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