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All I saw was scripture quotes...I just re read it all again...just scripture , no question. No direction. I still can't see the POINT being made?
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MATTHEW 25:30 THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT
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All I saw was scripture quotes...I just re read it all again...just scripture , no question. No direction. I still can't see the POINT being made?
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There was a little commentary at the end of Doug's OP post, although I still could not quite grasp the commentary's overall significance.
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I think the servant's own laziness caused him to try to refer to supposed 'hardness'; but really it's more a matter of being prepared in faith to perform one's reasonable service.
It is interesting to note that the wicked servant did not oppress the people around him by robbing them of their money, but that he returned the talent he was given in accordance with the law as given by Moses.
It is also interesting to note that Jesus is telling his disciples one aspect of what would be happening during the first 1000 years of the Millennium Age and that the Parable of the Minas tells us a little of what will happen after the 1,000 years have passed.
It is also interesting to note that Jesus is telling his disciples one aspect of what would be happening during the first 1000 years of the Millennium Age and that the Parable of the Minas tells us a little of what will happen after the 1,000 years have passed.
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Luke 17:9-10 KJV
[9] Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. [10] So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
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This post was to share my insight in regard to what this parable was about. My insights may be accepted or rejected and I may be wrong. I hope to stimulate a different point of view for consideration and Bible study.
This parable, as are the others, is about the kingdom of heaven. That could easily be overlooked in interpretation. Some may not know that the kingdom of heaven is the prophetic Davidic earthly kingdom, in which Israel will reign with Christ.
This parable was directed to Israel, not the body of Christ. If you think this parable is about the body of Christ it could lead to confusion and error; for instance one could think that if you don't have enough good works you could lose salvation.
I was not saying only Jews could be saved.
Why all this talk as Jews being God's servants...as opposed to the universal covenant of grace to the entire world?
A talent in the parable is a measure of grace. We are meant to bring a return on God's investment in us in the form of fruit that lasts. To whom much is given, more is required.
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Really Episkopos, A talent is a measure of money, hard currency, that the servants had to trade with to return a prophet with through the continuing oppression of the peoples of the earth by Satan's good and faithful servants.
This parable has be wrongly used by preachers in the past in their attempt to bring in the Kingdom of God. Jesus' instruction to those who want to help to bring in the Kingdom of God is, "To Believe in Him Who He has sent." This instruction has nothing to do with the oppression of people through being rich.
You are presenting a false doctrine here by linking God's Grace to this particular parable.
I am speaking of a Jesus that teaches the kingdom of God by the use of parables. Do you really think that Jesus was teaching about the devil's kingdom by His parables?
But the Parable of the Talents is not a parable about the kingdom of God.
It is a parable about the forces that will be opposing the Kingdom of God during the first 1,000 years of the last Age of the Ages.
Your statement that Jesus taught about the Kingdom of God through Parables may be very true, but to link the parable of the talents as you have done to God's grace for the salvation of the world, is simply not true.
Jesus doesn't flip back and forth between God's kingdom and the devil's. That's in your head. Look there for the confusion.
This parable is about all Christ's servants -- Jews or Gentiles. And it is only BELIEVING Jews and Gentiles who will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. But the parable is NOT about salvation but about service.
Weeping, wailing, mourning, crying, shedding tears, are all the same phenomena. So you are now inventing your own theology (as usual).
Hell (the Lake of Fire) is in Outer Darkness. Which would imply outside the earth and its atmosphere, as well as outside outer space.
The unprofitable servant represents a professing Christian (in name only) who has failed to serve Christ. He is essentially unsaved, hence outer darkness.
Your response to my posts tell me more about your heart condition than about your relationship with God. But that is making both of our responses off topic because we are not dealing with the theological content of the respective posts and turn them into personal attacks. Not good.
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There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. Luke 13:28
The above verse does not say they were cast in a furnace of fire as does the verse below. They will be thrust out of the kingdom on earth.
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:42
Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
I can find no verse that says outer darkness is hell.
Luke 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
This speaks of cities which are on earth, in the kingdom of heaven on earth. The servants are Israel.
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And by "profitable Jew" you mean the life of anyone totally surrendered to Christ, right?
You are making the wicked servant good and the good servants wicked. The servant who buried his talent did nothing with it....he bore no fruit. That is the measure of grace that God's servants are given.
But to whom much is given....more is required. We are to bear the fruit thereof.
God is like a Gardiner...trimming our vines so as to produce more fruit.
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They are the believing remnant of Israel. They believe Jesus is Messiah, Son of God. They have obeyed the commandments and will endure until the end. They will reign with Christ in the kingdom on earth.
And what other good news gospel do you have!!!
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16
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