MATTHEW 25:30 THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT

[Fred J]

The body of Christ found in Paul's epistles will be in heavenly places.......only believing Israel will be priests in the kingdom on earth

Again i disagree strongly.

The body of Christ mentioned in Paul's epistle is the church on earthly places.

1 Corinthians 12:
12. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond of free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
25. That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
27. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.


The body of Christ, the church, since the beginning consist of the remnant of Jews and Gentiles in 'equality' and 'oneness'.

From then on when their time on earth is up, they die or in other word, asleep, Jews or Gentiles alike await for the 'first resurrection'.

 

[Fred J]

...only believing Israel will be priests in the kingdom on earth

You're still in ancient Israel and Temple and under the Law and bound.

Acts 9:
15. But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

In all the epistles of Paul addressed to the Gentile nation churches, he prophesy all the promises of God 'equally' to the Gentiles and Jews now in one body of Christ.

There's no such divided testament that only the believing Israel will be priest in the kingdom of earth and in Heaven.

Again it's merely your usual 'spin' and 'twist' varying from the actual and truthful New Testament account.

Hope you get it or in vain am just talking to a brick wall.

 

[Jay Ross]

It should be understood that the basic problem in understanding the Parables of the Talents and the Minas can be found in who we believe is the man who goes away for a time to receive a kingdom?

My understanding is that the man who goes away for 1,000 years is Satan, whereas many "Christians" believe that this man is Jesus.

When we introduce an error in our understanding of the parables, then where we end up is not what we would hope for, becoming the servant of the wrong person/entity.

But that is the "sacred tradition" that many follow.

 

[Fred J]

It should be understood that the basic problem in understanding the Parables of the Talents and the Minas can be found in who we believe is the man who goes away for a time to receive a kingdom?

My understanding is that the man who goes away for 1,000 years is Satan, whereas many "Christians" believe that this man is Jesus.

When we introduce an error in our understanding of the parables, then where we end up is not what we would hope for, becoming the servant of the wrong person/entity.

But that is the "sacred tradition" that many follow.

So you mean to testify that before leaving satan gave talents to his servants?

Then after 1,000 years he return to have them give an account of their labor?

And he orders for the unprofitable servant to be cast into outer darkness?

Is the Kingdom of Heaven the kingdom of satan?

How do you study the parable?

 

[Jay Ross]

So you mean to testify that before leaving Satan gave talents to his servants?

Yes

Then after 1,000 years he return to have them give an account of their labor?

Yes

And he orders for the unprofitable servant to be cast into outer darkness?

Yes

Is the Kingdom of Heaven the kingdom of Satan?

No

How do you study the parable?

Slowly and with much reading of the scriptures.

 

[Fred J]

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Slowly and with much reading of the scriptures.

Best you change your glasses or get one from the Kingdom of GOD, and not kingdom of satan.

Matthew 25:
14. For the Kingdom of Heaven is as ..................................................

Ask youself, how can satan fit in the parable about the Kingdom of Heaven is as?

 

[Jay Ross]

Best you change your glasses or get one from the Kingdom of GOD, and not kingdom of satan.

Matthew 25:
14. For the Kingdom of Heaven is as ..................................................

Ask youself, how can satan fit in the parable about the Kingdom of Heaven is as?

Actually, Jesus was describing just one aspect of God's everlasting Kingdom, that will be established in around 20 years from now, where Satan's Good and faithful servants will apply the money, they are given by Satan, to impede God's Everlasting Kingdom to progress.

You can choose how you want to understand both parables, but to make fun of me is a poor false argument to use to prove your rebuttal.

 

[Doug]

Sorry, am not a follower of Paul alone, but of Christ and the Gospel according to the Apostles.

Romans 5:
3. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?
4. Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the Glory of the FATHER, even so we also should walk in the newness of life.

[1Co 12:13 KJV] 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Paul describes being baptized by the Spirit not water

[Mar 1:4 KJV] 4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
[Act 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

water baptism was for Israel for the remission of sins

 

[Doug]

The first resurrection is indeed the coming 'rapture' of the dead and the living in Christ, during the reign of anti-Christ.

The rapture is only for the body of Christ but is not the first resurrection..........the first resurrection is at the end of the tribulation

 

[Doug]

Again i disagree strongly.

The body of Christ mentioned in Paul's epistle is the church on earthly places.

1 Corinthians 12:
12. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond of free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
25. That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
27. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.


The body of Christ, the church, since the beginning consist of the remnant of Jews and Gentiles in 'equality' and 'oneness'.

From then on when their time on earth is up, they die or in other word, asleep, Jews or Gentiles alike await for the 'first resurrection'.

[Eph 1:3 KJV] 3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:
[Eph 2:6 KJV] 6 And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
[2Ti 4:18 KJV] 18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve [me] unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen.