My thoughts on just.. whatever.. regarding Christianity in this icky world

[FHII]

Goodbye River..... I am tired of your game.

 

[ScaliaFan]

[SIZE=medium]No idea how royal child benefits are in the US, but over here you’re lucky when they cover the cost for diapers. For the sake of experience, I once tried to live on what people on benefits have to live on for a while, and I can assure you it wasn’t an enviable life-style.[/SIZE]

I know people who live well on what they get from the gov
We dont need any further programs to "help" people IMO, and of course making people dependent on (saying the same thing twice) "corrupt governemnt" is not too "helping"

nope

 

[ScaliaFan]

Queen Hillary won't be indicted like the common peasants would be..​

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We are SHOCKED!!​

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absolutely SHOCKED!​

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whoda thunk it?​

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Comey is a liar​

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meanwhile in other news (we can't do anything about) babies are being murdered in the womb.. ho hum... business as usual... Syrians are being made homeless (and that's if they're lucky)... and the Democrats keep lying (RE Comey's nonsensical stance on Hillary's violation of the law, etc..) and everything else... liberals always lying, changing the subject... using subterfuge and obfuscation... Republicas always defending themselves... (!) --defending themselves against the ABSURD, subject-changing, irrelevant... "arguments" of the liberals, when instead the Rs should be on OFFENSE... ​

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b/c there is nothing more OFFENS-ive than liberals, their stupid, lawless &***##^%$ that is ruining our country​

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let the immigrants in, even if ISIS is coming in with them! Yeh, there's something logical for ya! MORONS! We are being ruled by morons!​

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And Christians join in the mayhem by saying they can't get involved w/ politics... leaving politics wide open for Satan and his puppets... ​

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insanity... ​

 

[FHII]

Queen Hillary won't be indicted like the common peasants would be..​

We are SHOCKED!!​

absolutely SHOCKED!​

whoda thunk it?​

Comey is a liar​

meanwhile in other news (we can't do anything about) babies are being murdered in the womb.. ho hum... business as usual... Syrians are being made homeless (and that's if they're lucky)... and the Democrats keep lying (RE Comey's nonsensical stance on Hillary's violation of the law, etc..) and everything else... liberals always lying, changing the subject... using subterfuge and obfuscation... Republicas always defending themselves... (!) --defending themselves against the ABSURD, subject-changing, irrelevant... "arguments" of the liberals, when instead the Rs should be on OFFENSE... ​

b/c there is nothing more OFFENS-ive than liberals, their stupid, lawless &***##^%$ that is ruining our country​

let the immigrants in, even if ISIS is coming in with them! Yeh, there's something logical for ya! MORONS! We are being ruled by morons!​

And Christians join in the mayhem by saying they can't get involved w/ politics... leaving politics wide open for Satan and his puppets... ​

insanity... ​

Yea.... Christians do!

We are pedestined to cry out and give a report. We are witnesses! Being a witness doesn't mean we try to stop it.... Yea we should. But its not our goal. Being a witness means God has his.....

Aw... Never mind. You won't believe me anyway.

 

[junobet]

In your first example you are confusing giving with taxes, which is very sad to see.

In your second example you miss a very simple point. Its simply unbiblical and large companies tend to set up shop elsewhere.

[SIZE=medium]Jesus also said give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Luckily these days in Western Democracies – at least in theory – the people are Caesar. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]What His comments on the poor widow’s donation show is that Jesus knew the simple mathematics, that make it seem reasonable to have different tax brackets for different incomes.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I’m not very good at maths myself, but let’s play this through:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]In a Kingdom every farmer has to give every fourth egg as tribute to the king. Same tax bracket for everyone, just as you like it.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Farmer A and B both have a wife and two children, meaning they both have to support a household consisting of 4 people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Farmer A has 40 chicken each of which lays 1 egg a day. Makes 40 eggs a day, divided by 4, meaning farmer A has to give 10 eggs as tribute to the king, leaving him with 30 eggs, which means that each member of his family can have eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner and still have leftover eggs from which to hatch new chicken.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Farmer B has only 4 chicken each of which lays 1 egg a day. Makes 4 eggs a day, divided by 4, meaning farmer B has to give 1 egg a day as tribute to the king, leaving him with 3 eggs, which means that one of his family has to go without a breakfast egg, the entire family has to go hungry for the rest of the day and there are certainly no left-over eggs from which to hatch new chicken.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Being a wise and just king, what would you do? Who needs a tax break?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]As for my second example: Indeed, large companies can set up shop anywhere and thus have the power to make local politicians compete in who’s giving them the lowest tax bracket and the lowest minimum wage, which by the way is pretty much what Marx predicted would happen in capitalism. It is in essence a system built on personal greed, which is a human vice the Bible certainly does not endorse. There are solutions for the problem of big business blackmailing politics, but I bet most of these solutions, would make a lot of Conservative Christians cry out “Socialism” and “New World Order”, whilst they bow down to the destructive New World Order of the global ‘free market’ that we already have: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/africa-s-unfair-battle-the-west-s-poverty-subsidies-a-482209.html. [/SIZE]

 

[ScaliaFan]

Yea.... Christians do!

We are pedestined to cry out and give a report. We are witnesses! Being a witness doesn't mean we try to stop it.... Yea we should. But its not our goal. Being a witness means God has his.....

Aw... Never mind. You won't believe me anyway.

it looks like you are uncertain as to how to deal with... the unChristian-ness of the world?

well, we all are uncertain sometimes. But i am certain of ONE thing... 100% certain of one thing: We are to PARTICIPATE and do our best to Christianize the world.. Jesus told us to do that... to preach the gospel and baptize (although that last one seems to be a directive given to the 12, who were the first bishops of the Church)

and yet the Catholic Church teaches that we all share in the ministry of the priesthood, just not in a
ministerial
way

 

[H. Richard]

it looks like you are uncertain as to how to deal with... the unChristian-ness of the world?

well, we all are uncertain sometimes. But i am certain of ONE thing... 100% certain of one thing: We are to PARTICIPATE and do our best to Christianize the world.. Jesus told us to do that... to preach the gospel and baptize (although that last one seems to be a directive given to the 12, who were the first bishops of the Church)

and yet the Catholic Church teaches that we all share in the ministry of the priesthood, just not in a
ministerial
way

Which church? The RCC?

Church only means a called out assembly.

The church for today is the church of His body and the head of this body is in heaven, not Rome.

 

[ScaliaFan]

Which church? The RCC?

Church only means a called out assembly.

The church for today is the church of His body and the head of this body is in heaven, not Rome.

you don't know of what u speak. The RCC is not just another "church" among many..

only Catholics know this... and they cannot... apparently.. explain it to others... Mysefl.. i am frankly weary of trying.. nothing more closed minded than an anticatholic... Scott Hahn was once about the most anticatholic person you could find... but he STUDIED... and studied and studied... and so he, who probably knows more about history of the Church and teachings of the Catholic as well as other churches... what did he do with all that knowledge?

He converted to the Roman Catholic faith

about 20 yrs ago

 

[ScaliaFan]

so Blacks get their freedom and then (some) turn around and do to Whites the exact same thing (exact same injustice) that was done to them... Do we ever learn? The 5 police officers murdered in Dallas... just b/c they were White.. Yeh, i guess to that possessed maniac from HELL, 2 wrongs make a right... and many other Blacks seem to feel the same way, although most, thankfully, do not kill... They just act "funny" toward Whitey... to pay him back for slavery...

Frankly, i feel this comes from low self-esteem... and yes, it is sad if they have low self esteem partly due to the past treatment hteir ancestors suffered. And i know that there is still racism so it isn't all in the past.. But you know...

"What the world needs now is"... not love per se... but Jesus ("God is love"... If you have seen Me, you have seen the FAther")..

Like a friend of mine said years ago

It doesn't matter what the question is, the answer is Jesus

sigh

"Vengeance is MINE, saith the Lord" (that's somewhere in the Bible, but i dont recall where)

If you claim to hate injustice (b/c you have experienced it), and then you turn around and inflict it on others who did you no harm whatsoever (but look like the oppressor somehow)... you are a liar... you never hated injustice... you just hated being deprived of (whatever)... you are merely self-centered

In other words: You only hate injustice when it is done to you? Then you do not hate injustice at all

 

[ScaliaFan]

the world is so crazy and etc.. b/c people, even supposed Christians, have thrown out the whole idea of God's LAW

all this once saved always saved nonsense is destroying the world. It's so cool to just do whatever you want (thinking u r saved regardless of your actions, which is not true...). Then someone does to you what you have carelessly been doing to others.. and you have a freaking cow...

 

[mjrhealth]

all this once saved always saved nonsense is destroying the world

Its called faith, something that is very lacking in the christian comunity, and yet so many like you troubled by sin. What is it you think Jesus died for.

 

[ScaliaFan]

Where does it say in the Bible you can sin all you want and still get to Heaven?​

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In fact, it says (over and over and in many different books therein) the EXACT OPPOSITE... Read Revelation, for one​

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all these man made doctrines... leading people straight to Hell..​

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Here's another one: Jesus said (Mt 25:31) that whatever we do to the least of his brethren, we do to HIM. And in that same passage, He speaks of the consequences of NOT doing for His people... Hell... which He tells us is "eternal" ​

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to you osas people​

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So much for going by the Bible, eh?​

 

[ScaliaFan]

Fr. Mitch Pacwa for President!

Priests are highly educated (secular history, Church history, etc). They have to go to school 8 yrs b4 ordination. And they love God AND His laws... and of course the laws of the nation, assuming they comport w/ the laws of God

so yeh... Mitch for President!

OK, I can dream, can't I?

:mellow:

 

[brakelite]

Not one Catholic priest has conformed to the laws of God since the 4th century.

 

[ScaliaFan]

Not one Catholic priest has conformed to the laws of God since the 4th century.

please present evidence to support your case

or I will have to judge the other side to have won by default

On 2nd thought, I realize you could not possibly have any such evidence. Case dismissed. Please pay other party court costs. Thank you.

Oh, by the way

Fr. Mitch Pacwa for President!

 

[ScaliaFan]

Trump finally did something we conservatives can beleive in.. got Pence tobe his VP

too bad it can't be Pence/Trump

Anyway, I still tend to prefer Libertarian Gary Johnson, who doesn't have the "baggage" DT does..

I think a lot of both Ds and Rs feel that way

very good speech by DT earlier today, however...

 

[mjrhealth]

all these man made doctrines... leading people straight to Hell..

Waht , you who folow catholick doctrines shhould be saying such a thing, si that not the pot calling the kettle back. You are a strange one.