No authority!

[theefaith]

but rome is the one that killed Christ.
its strange that rome can kill Jesus, make a church and then tell people they are the church and people really buy into it.

the pagan Roman Empire was conquered by the holy church founded by Christ dan 2:44

 

[TLHKAJ]

but doctrine must be revealed by God and taught by His church Matt 28:19

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” — Matthew 28:19 (KJV)

You've added your own meaning to the scripture.

 

[theefaith]

Matthew 16:18 is often cited as though at that moment Jesus gave Peter a new name, meaning rock. However, Peter had that name long before: As he was walking by the Sea of Galilee he saw two brothers, Simon (called Peter) and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishermen). (Matthew 4:18; also Matthew 10:2 and Matthew 16:16 and Matthew 17:25) Jesus created a play on the meaning of the name that Peter already had previously.

the gospel was written years latter so Mathew knew that Jesus changed Peters name

 

[theefaith]

the gospel was written years latter so Mathew knew that Jesus changed Peters name

Christ the high priest who are the low priests?

 

[theefaith]

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” — Matthew 28:19 (KJV)

You've added your own meaning to the scripture.

how?

 

[jaybird]

the pagan Roman Empire was conquered by the holy church founded by Christ dan 2:44

The church conquered rome? The greatest empire ever with the biggest army and a few little sects took them down? What are you smoking?
The idea that rome was assimilated into Christianity is laughable. You can bring out your "keys of Peter" all you like but we all know that after edict of milan and nicea rome continued to to what they have always done, conquer, pillage and destroy anything that got in their way. The roman popes, cardinals, and bishops acted no different than the oppressive roman aristocracy, they were the new aristocracy lording over the surfs. That's the nail in the coffin that proves they were not of Jesus.
I think it was boniface that said raping young boys was just as natural as washing ones hands, what a dirtbag. And to think some believe those guys are lead by Jesus. You gotta be on crack to believe that

 

[theefaith]

The church conquered rome? The greatest empire ever with the biggest army and a few little sects took them down? What are you smoking?
The idea that rome was assimilated into Christianity is laughable. You can bring out your "keys of Peter" all you like but we all know that after edict of milan and nicea rome continued to to what they have always done, conquer, pillage and destroy anything that got in their way. The roman popes, cardinals, and bishops acted no different than the oppressive roman aristocracy, they were the new aristocracy lording over the surfs. That's the nail in the coffin that proves they were not of Jesus.
I think it was boniface that said raping young boys was just as natural as washing ones hands, what a dirtbag. And to think some believe those guys are lead by Jesus. You gotta be on crack to believe that

Christ the king is no little thing but the God of heaven! The king of kings!
Not a military conquest but the church militant conquering thru conversion

 

[theefaith]

The church conquered rome? The greatest empire ever with the biggest army and a few little sects took them down? What are you smoking?
The idea that rome was assimilated into Christianity is laughable. You can bring out your "keys of Peter" all you like but we all know that after edict of milan and nicea rome continued to to what they have always done, conquer, pillage and destroy anything that got in their way. The roman popes, cardinals, and bishops acted no different than the oppressive roman aristocracy, they were the new aristocracy lording over the surfs. That's the nail in the coffin that proves they were not of Jesus.
I think it was boniface that said raping young boys was just as natural as washing ones hands, what a dirtbag. And to think some believe those guys are lead by Jesus. You gotta be on crack to believe that

you think a lot of things that are not true!

 

[jaybird]

the story of Joan of Arc is interested. she lead an army and won many battles. but the the idea of a women leading troops was to much for the church, they had her burned alive. and what was her shocking crime, she wore mens clothes. im not kidding, this innocent heroic lady was but to death because she wore mens clothes.have these idiots even read a bible? and even worse, while she was locked up in prison she was raped over and over, and what of the men that raped her, the church did nothing.

but according to some people, this was all the work of Jesus. can you believe that?

 

[Triumph1300]

Where do you see the word "church" in there?

Probably inserted by the denomination involved in the printing of that bible.

 

[Triumph1300]

and taught by Christ and His holy church

There.....time to leave the thread.

 

[amadeus]

Elsewhere?

jn 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

jn 10:16 there is only one flock!

We are all to be seeking the Lord's face... but the actual details of our pathways may be somewhat different for various reasons. One is simply our individual experience or maturity in God and and second would be what part of the Body of Christ we are to be. Not all parts of the Body of Christ have or are to have the same function.

 

[theefaith]

the story of Joan of Arc is interested. she lead an army and won many battles. but the the idea of a women leading troops was to much for the church, they had her burned alive. and what was her shocking crime, she wore mens clothes. im not kidding, this innocent heroic lady was but to death because she wore mens clothes.have these idiots even read a bible? and even worse, while she was locked up in prison she was raped over and over, and what of the men that raped her, the church did nothing.

but according to some people, this was all the work of Jesus. can you believe that?

Part of what you say is true
But she was not persecuted and burned by the church, she was French defending the French kingdom
She was persecuted by a bad English bishop violating his authority
And it is the one true church vindicated her and made her a saint like the church did John fisher and Thomas More both beheaded by the Protestants

 

[jaybird]

Part of what you say is true
But she was not persecuted and burned by the church, she was French defending the French kingdom
She was persecuted by a bad English bishop violating his authority
And it is the one true church vindicated her and made her a saint like the church did John fisher and Thomas More both beheaded by the Protestants

No one believes that outside of your little twilight zone world.
Secular courts don't try people for heresy

 

[theefaith]

There.....time to leave the thread.

Lk 1:4 must be instructed by the apostles thru the church of the apostles

 

[theefaith]

No one believes that outside of your little twilight zone world.
Secular courts don't try people for heresy

they did in the those days

 

[jaybird]

they did in the those days

They did on the orders of the church, so either way the church is guilty.
Heresy by definition is teaching or doing anything the church says not to. And the guys that made up these rules were some of the most corrupt people ever

 

[jaybird]

Another interesting fact, back in the day when the clergy were always copying and translating they would often make mistakes but unlike honest men that follow Jesus and admit their mistakes, they would refuse out of arrogance and pride, therefore they invented their own demon called titivillus, now every time they made a mistake they blamed titivillus the demon of scribes, he did it not me!
And some people think these guys are lead by Jesus.

 

[theefaith]

They did on the orders of the church, so either way the church is guilty.
Heresy by definition is teaching or doing anything the church says not to. And the guys that made up these rules were some of the most corrupt people ever

And the thousands killed by the Protestant nations?
Bloody Elizabeth the lying traitor to Christ?

 

[jaybird]

And the thousands killed by the Protestant nations?
Bloody Elizabeth the lying traitor to Christ?

Never! Not in a thousand years did the protestants ever do wrong, I am baptist so this is what I think and any evidence provided I just ignore.
See how foolish that is? I would hate to be someone that thought like that.
Of course they did wrong, the scribe demon I mentioned earlier was mostly practiced by prots.