NO Law : Always Righteous

[Behold]

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Reader,

There are "works of the flesh"... that Christians commit....sure.

So, here is the right understanding about "carnality as a Believer's behavior"

1.) = "Where there is no LAW...there is no Transgression.. (sin)

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..


In other words, Reader..... if there is No Law that says....."Thats a SIN", ....then the deed is not defined by the law as a sin.

See that?

You have to think.
Think, now.

Remember...., the born again, are "not under the LAW, but under GRACE", and Grace does not define the Christian as anything but..
= sinless......"made Righteous".... "a new Creation, in Christ". "One with God".. Existing IN the Kingdom of God.

The Christian is always """ made free from sin"""", because there is no LAW that has dominion over the born again anymore that can define a carnal deed as a "sin". And this is because Christ has died for our Sin and God has "imputed" the righteousness of Christ as "OURS".
So, when you do something that is Carnal... and you are a born again believer... ................=

= 2.) That is a "work of the flesh". "Its an occasion to the flesh"...... that is committed while the believer is always "under Grace". "Being NOW made free from Sin".... always "made Righteous".

Reader you have to understand that, and believe it.... or your Christianity and your faith and your discipleship, will never be right...........never.

Understanding what i just showed you, to believe it.........is how you "establish your heart with Grace"< .. Hebrews 13:9....and you have to do this or you will be going from doctrine to doctrine, changing churches..... because you dont understand "The Gift of Righteousness"< that is "The Gift of Salvation" that is to be born again as a "new Creation, in Christ".

Listen,

>.... in the Kingdom of God, where ALL the Born Again exit....there is NO Moses LAW and NO 10 Commandments.
The Law and 10 Commandments are made for the Devil's kingdom, where the unbelievers exist... Down HERE !
The KOG is not any of that, so, it does not need Moses LAW or the 10 Commandments.
Does God and Christ need Moses's Law, and the 10 Commandments to show them their SIN ?????? = Not quite.... And they ARE the Kingdom of God... as its a SPIRITUAL Kingdom.
"God is A Spirit".
We, the born again are '""IN THEM">... "in Christ":.... and "one with God".
This is to be = "Under Grace"... "Being NOW made free from sin".... because = "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law"

What is the Law's Curse?

3.) Its the dominion of the Law.........its the Holy Law's "right" to define your carnal misdeeds as "sin" and you as a "sinner".

This is Gone, if you are born again....... because... ""Christ has redeemed the born again from the curse of the LAW"., and all the born again are in the KOG.

= ""Christ is the END of THE LAW....for Righteousness".

A.) = Where there is no law, = there is no sin...no transgression, and the born again are : "NOT under the law, but UNDER GRACE".

Reader....You have to SEE THIS VERSE, this Revelation, and believe it.. or your understanding of God's Grace is : ZERO.


This means that being "in Christ'= always makes you, keeps you, "being NOW made free from Sin". = "Made Righteous". "One with God".

This means that your carnal deeds are ..... "works of the flesh".
Nothing more.

4.) How did Jesus accomplish our Eternal REDEMPTION from sin ??

1.) "God hath made Jesus TO BE SIN....for Us".

2.) "" Jesus is the one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for sin".

 

[Episkopos]

-
Reader,

There are "works of the flesh"... that Christians commit....sure.

So, here is the right understanding about "carnality as a Believer's behavior"

1.) = "Where there is no LAW...there is no Transgression.. (sin)

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..


In other words, Reader..... if there is No Law that says....."Thats a SIN", ....then the deed is not defined by the law as a sin.

See that?

You have to think.
Think, now.

Remember...., the born again, are "not under the LAW, but under GRACE", and Grace does not define the Christian as anything but..
= sinless......"made Righteous".... "a new Creation, in Christ". "One with God".. Existing IN the Kingdom of God.

The Christian is always """ made free from sin"""", because there is no LAW that has dominion over the born again anymore that can define a carnal deed as a "sin". And this is because Christ has died for our Sin and God has "imputed" the righteousness of Christ as "OURS".
So, when you do something that is Carnal... and you are a born again believer... ................=

= 2.) That is a "work of the flesh". "Its an occasion to the flesh"...... that is committed while the believer is always "under Grace". "Being NOW made free from Sin".... always "made Righteous".

Reader you have to understand that, and believe it.... or your Christianity and your faith and your discipleship, will never be right...........never.

Understanding what i just showed you, to believe it.........is how you "establish your heart with Grace"< .. Hebrews 13:9....and you have to do this or you will be going from doctrine to doctrine, changing churches..... because you dont understand "The Gift of Righteousness"< that is "The Gift of Salvation" that is to be born again as a "new Creation, in Christ".

Listen,

>.... in the Kingdom of God, where ALL the Born Again exit....there is NO Moses LAW and NO 10 Commandments.
The Law and 10 Commandments are made for the Devil's kingdom, where the unbelievers exist... Down HERE !
The KOG is not any of that, so, it does not need Moses LAW or the 10 Commandments.
Does God and Christ need Moses's Law, and the 10 Commandments to show them their SIN ?????? = Not quite.... And they ARE the Kingdom of God... as its a SPIRITUAL Kingdom.
"God is A Spirit".
We, the born again are '""IN THEM">... "in Christ":.... and "one with God".
This is to be = "Under Grace"... "Being NOW made free from sin".... because = "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law"

What is the Law's Curse?

3.) Its the dominion of the Law.........its the Holy Law's "right" to define your carnal misdeeds as "sin" and you as a "sinner".

This is Gone, if you are born again....... because... ""Christ has redeemed the born again from the curse of the LAW"., and all the born again are in the KOG.

= ""Christ is the END of THE LAW....for Righteousness".

A.) = Where there is no law, = there is no sin...no transgression, and the born again are : "NOT under the law, but UNDER GRACE".

Reader....You have to SEE THIS VERSE, this Revelation, and believe it.. or your understanding of God's Grace is : ZERO.


This means that being "in Christ'= always makes you, keeps you, "being NOW made free from Sin". = "Made Righteous". "One with God".

This means that your carnal deeds are ..... "works of the flesh".
Nothing more.

4.) How did Jesus accomplish our Eternal REDEMPTION from sin ??

1.) "God hath made Jesus TO BE SIN....for Us".

2.) "" Jesus is the one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for sin".

The OP is basically Lawlessness 101. Pay a close attention ...there's going to be a test. ;)

 

[Behold]

The OP is basically Lawlessness 101. Pay a close attention ...there's going to be a test. ;)

You've Already failed the test.

As your salvation theology is based on Law, and trying to do works.....and that is why my Thread that defines the Born Again as "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law",= is against you and anyone who is "theologically" related to you.

Notice,..... "Jesus is the end of the LAW....for Righteousness....= to everyone who BELIEVES" - born again.

That's an eternal fact.

See that? that Rejects your false Gospel of Law Keeping and self effort...., Episkopos.

That's what Paul's doctrine does to people like you.
He points out that teaching that Lawkeeping is a part of Salvation, is a Heresy, and that People who try to put the Law on the back of the born again, are "anti-Christ, because they are Anti-Cross, and Grace denying, = Legalists.

 

[quietthinker]

You've Already failed the test.

As your salvation is based on Law, and trying to do works.....and that is why my Thread that defines the Born Again as "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law", is against you.

Notice,..... "Jesus is the end of the Law for Righteousness to everyone who BELIEVES" - born again.

That a fact.

See that? that Rejects your false Gospel of Law Keeping and self effort...., Episkopos.

That what's Paul does to people like you.
He points out that teaching that Lawkeepiing is a part of Salvation, is a Heresy, and that People who try to put the Law on the back of the born again, are "anti-Christ, because they are Anti-Cross, and Grace denying, Legalists.

It was Lucifer who argued that God's Law was unnecessary. Apparently he got a goodly amount of angels to side with him.

 

[Behold]

It was Lucifer who argued that God's Law was unnecessary.

There was no Cross of Christ, in the Garden of Eden.
You probably don't know that, as if you did, you would not have posted such nonsense.

That CROSS of CHRIST is a new Covenant..

The law came by Moses...but Grace and TRUTH...came by Jesus The Christ".

= "New Covenant".

Let me show you something,...

"Christ is the end of the LAW...for Righteous, for/to everyone who BELIEVES""".

If you are not a born again BELIEVER, then you are still under the law, and that would explain why you are "of the law", in your Theology, quietthinker.

 

[quietthinker]

There was no Cross of Christ, in the Garden of Eden.
You probably don't know that, as if you did, you would not have posted such nonsense.

Let me show you something,...

"Christ is the end of the LAW...for Righteous, for/to everyone who BELIEVES""".

If you are not a born again BELIEVER, then you are still under the law, and that would explain why you are "of the law", in your Theology, quietthinker.

You muddle matters Behold, besides, you are quick to accuse any who hold a different position.......therein is the indicator.

 

[Behold]

You muddle matters Behold, besides, you are quick to accuse any who hold a different position...

My answer was not muddy.

Listen..

The Devil now teaches the Law.
Its his gospel.

Satan's ministers are "Ministers of RIGHTEOUSNESS"....= that means they Preach/Teach and POST about Righteousness, but not according to The Cross of Christ.....and NEVER according to the Grace of God.

They will all talk about ..."being holy"... "living for the Lord"....... but their Gospel is......>>"law, law, commandments...water baptism , enduring to the end ....= self effort, 1000 things you must do.... = SELF SAVING"..

See that?

God didn't provide any of that SELF SAVING.... LIST.. on the Cross to DIE for your sin, so that He could take you as His Son.

 

[quietthinker]

My answer was not muddy.

Listan..

The Devil teaches the Law.
Its his gospel.

His ministers are "Ministers of RIGHTEOUSNESS"...............that means they Preach/Teach, about Righteousness, but not according to The Cross of Christ.

They will all talk about ..."being holy"... "living for the Lord"....... but their Gospel is......>>"law, law, commandments...water baptist, enduring....self effort"..

See that?

God didn't provide any of that SELF SAVING List on the Cross to DIE for your sin, so that He could take you as His Son.

Like I said, you muddle matters and presume too much. The shining angel did the same....of course with hands up praising the Lord.
Your dogged position is promoting lawlessness whether you understand that or not.

 

[Behold]

Like I said, you muddle matters and presume too much. The shining angel did the same....of course with hands up praising the Lord.
Your dogged position is promoting lawlessness whether you understand that or not.

As all you did was repeat your original post, 2x.

C'mon

 

[quietthinker]

There was no Cross of Christ, in the Garden of Eden.
You probably don't know that, as if you did, you would not have posted such nonsense.

'slain from the foundation of the world'. Rev. 13:8 .....I doubt you are familiar with that statement or whether you understand it.

 

[Behold]

'slain from the foundation of the world'. Rev. 13:8 .....I doubt you are familiar with that statement or whether you understand it.

Thanks for the question.

1.) Jesus was certainly "slain" in the Foreknowledge of God, before the earth was "void and without forum".
Sure.

And this next verse.. is the same FOREKNOWLEDGE of God....

"""""And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”"""

That Prophetic verse was Given, thousands of years before Jesus crushed the head of the Devil through the Cross of Christ.

2.) So, God is absolutely Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent........He does know all things before they will happen (foreknowledge).
But that is not the same as God causing it all., as the John Calvinist's teach. (Heresy)


3.) Also, when Eve was tempted, there was no Moses's Law and no Cross of Christ. raised yet.
So, neither covenant was in place yet....

A.) Had the Cross of Christ been raised in the Garden of Eden, then there would have been no covenant at all......not #1 or #2.

As in that case, Adam #2, would have died for the iniquity of Adam #1 and Eve, and they would have been "born again" right back into spiritual union with Father God.

It could be argued that because Adam had already sinned......... the fall of us all had occurred, and so the Cross was not going to change that Had it been there.

That's a very valid argument........or concept.

However, That's not the way it worked out.. and that is why Jesus told us........."You must be Born again".

 

[07-07-07]

We must make our calling and election sure, as Peter states.

2 Peter 1
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[11] For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

• What things are we to do to make our calling and election sure?

2 Peter 1
[5] And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[6] And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[7] And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[8] For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[9] But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

 

[Behold]

We must make our calling and election sure, as Peter states.

2 Peter 1
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[11] For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Nothing is more "sure" or "certain" then being Born again.
Why?
Because that is God making certain that the born again person, is going to Heaven.
How do you know?

Its because the born again are already in Heaven....."in Christ"...."seated in Heavenly places".... as "one with God".

That's "eternal certainty" that trying to be good, water baptism, and trying to hold unto your faith, will never equal.. 07-07-07.

Believe it.

 

[Episkopos]

You've Already failed the test.

As your salvation theology is based on Law, and trying to do works.....and that is why my Thread that defines the Born Again as "Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the Law",= is against you and anyone who is "theologically" related to you.

Notice,..... "Jesus is the end of the LAW....for Righteousness....= to everyone who BELIEVES" - born again.

That's an eternal fact.

See that? that Rejects your false Gospel of Law Keeping and self effort...., Episkopos.

That's what Paul's doctrine does to people like you.
He points out that teaching that Lawkeeping is a part of Salvation, is a Heresy, and that People who try to put the Law on the back of the born again, are "anti-Christ, because they are Anti-Cross, and Grace denying, = Legalists.

Very muddled here. The law of Moses is no longer an indication of righteousness. Judaism is outmoded. Temple holiness no longer exists.

But those who transgress the law also transgress Christ. There is no Christian escape from the law of God.

Gal. 2:17,18 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.


Your error is so great there is no touch-point to begin any kind of discussion with. We remain accountable for our sins...even in Christ. In Him is no sin. But unless we enter INTO Him through the gateway of the cross...and the disconnection of the outer man...we remain in the wilderness portion of the Christian walk.

So you need to be properly educated concerning the way Paul uses the word "law". He meas different things at different times...which allows for the human tendency to assume and presume to kick in.

 

[marks]

So, here is the right understanding about "carnality as a Believer's behavior"

1.) = "Where there is no LAW...there is no Transgression.. (sin)

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

where there is no law, there is no sin"..

Romans 5:12-14 KJV
12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Sin was in the world though there was no Law against it. Still, people died, because they sinned, even though it wasn't imputed judicially to them. Sin kills, and there is no getting around that, Law or no Law.

Where there is no Law, there is no transgression, that is, no crossing over the line, since a line isn't drawn. But sin is sin, and sin kills, with or without Law.

Much love!

 

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2 Peter 1
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[11] For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Just a note . . . "make sure" here pertains to "make stable and unmoveable", not "make certain".

Much love!

 

[Behold]

But those who transgress the law also transgress Christ.

The born again "in Christ' are in the New Covenant, which includes this...

"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness, for everyone who believes".

"Christ has redeemed the born again, from the curse of the law"

"the Born again are not under the law....but under Grace"

So, when the Law is gone, there is no transgression.

Where does the law exist?

Its on and against the unbeliever, never born again.
They are under it.

So, when you try to put OT Law on the Born Again = New Covenant Christian, you are denying the Cross of Christ and the "Blood Atonement.

 

[Behold]

Where there is no Law, there is no transgression, that is, no crossing over the line, since a line isn't drawn. But sin is sin, and sin kills, with or without Law.

"Iniquity was found in him"..

this is not the born again.

There is no "iniquity" found in a "new creation in Christ". as "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us'.

So, Christ has it, died for it.... or you have yours and He didn't, .. Reader.

There is no.>"well i have it, till i confess it clean again".

 

[Ritajanice]

@Behold ..when you get a moment...can you explain more on the flesh.

Is that when the renewing of our minds come into play...... ?

What is the flesh in a Born again...is it the mindset?