No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[pandaflower]

Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !

That's what God said.

 

[Behold]

You're getting there. So it's both the "Cross of Christ" AND the person to give God their faith. You're finally catching on. Salvation is completed by works just like James says.

How is your Mary worship Today @nedsk

Listen, its "Grace through Faith", "Not of works" "Not of the Law"
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[brightfame52]

You people can't hold two ideas in your mind at the same time can you? Gods absolute but he will never use that power to force to do what you dont want to do. That doesn't mean h doesn't have absolute power. You people amaze me

This comment doesnt even make sense

 

[nedsk]

That's what God said.

That's what God said.

What does "draw" mean?

 

[brightfame52]

The Cross of Christ is always "drawing" unbelievers to faith.

It never stops.

However, its up to the person to give God their Faith in Christ.

Fables

 

[nedsk]

How is your Mary worship Today @nedsk

Listen, its "Grace through Faith", "Not of works" "Not of the Law"
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This is evidence of your shollowness

 

[brightfame52]

What does "draw" mean?

Regeneration, the impartation of spiritual life

 

[Behold]

Fables

Paul teaches that every person has "the measure of Faith".

You're born with it.

Now, wil you give your faith to God, by trusting in His Son?
If you do, then your "faith is counted by God".......and remember.....>"Faith comes by HEARING, and hearing by the word of God".

A person hears the Gospel, and the Holy Spirit opens their heart........and now what will they do with their Faith?
Will they stop putting their faith in ALLAH and MUHAMMED, and now gift God their Faith in Christ?

Its up to them regarding what they do with THEIR FAITH.

 

[nedsk]

This comment doesnt even make sense

Why not? I'll type slowly for you ... God has absolute power to do what he wills but he will not use that power to force us to live him. That's not love. Restraining is power is not the same thing as he has no power. It doesn't diminish his power if he decides not to exercise his power.

 

[brightfame52]

Paul teaches that every person has "the measure of Faith".

You're born with it.

Now, wil you give your faith to God, by trusting in His Son?
If you do, then your "faith is counted by God".......and remember.....>"Faith comes by HEARING, and hearing by the word of God".

A person hears the Gospel, and the Holy Spirit opens their heart........and now what will they do with their Faith?
Will they stop putting their faith in ALLAH and MUHAMMED, and now gift God their Faith in Christ?

Its up to them.

More fables

 

[pandaflower]

How is your Mary worship Today @nedsk

Listen, its "Grace through Faith", "Not of works" "Not of the Law"
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That's a huge idol. Where is it located?

 

[brightfame52]

Why not? I'll type slowly for you ... God has absolute power to do what he wills but he will not use that power to force us to live him. That's not love. Restraining is power is not the same thing as he has no power. It doesn't diminish his power if he decides not to exercise his power.

Why not ? I dont know, it came from your mind

 

[nedsk]

Regeneration, the impartation of spiritual life

So he imparts it on everyone?

 

[nedsk]

Why not ? I dont know, it came from your mind

Maybe but it's the truth. I know how you people hate the truth

 

[Behold]

More fables

You are a deceived Hyper Calvinist.

God is not a Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul is not a Calviist
The Holy Spirit is not a Calvinist

Christians lead people to CHRIST

Deceived Calvinist, try to lead everyone to Calvin.

Only a deceived fool can't understand what is wrong with that situaiton. @brightfame52

 

[brightfame52]

So he imparts it on everyone?

Everyone He imparted it to. The saved Is everyone saved ? Is everyone a believer ? You figure it out

 

[brightfame52]

You are a deceived Hyper Calvinist.

God is not a Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul is not a Calviist
The Holy Spirit is not a Calvinist

Christians lead people to CHRIST

Deceived Calvinist, try to lead everyone to Calvin.

Only a deceived fool can't understand what is wrong with that situaiton. @brightfame52

More foolish talk

 

[Behold]

That's a huge idol. Where is it located?

 

[nedsk]

Everyone He imparted it to. The saved Is everyone saved ? Is everyone a believer ? You figure it out

So you have to believe to be saved?.

 

[brightfame52]

Maybe but it's the truth. I know how you people hate the truth

Lol you can believe it if you want to