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And as usual, Satan's servants are ever trying to destroy what those like Rawlinson discovered with the Behistun rock and Assyrian links to the ten tribes of Israel.
 
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And as usual, Satan's servants are ever trying to destroy what those like Rawlinson discovered with the Behistun rock and Assyrian links to the ten tribes of Israel.
The identity of the 'lost ten tribes of Israel', is God's secret. [Of course; secular anthropologists carefully avoid any hint of the Western nations true origin.]
It is God who wants them to remain scattered among the nations and what Satan's servants have done is to establish a fake Israel in a small portion of the holy Land.
This situation is soon to be corrected and the holy people of God, every born again Christian, will go to and live in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 49:14-23, Romans 9:24-26
 
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Yes. There is no question that the Church and the nation of Israel (consisting of the twelve tribes) are distinct and will remain distinct in eternity. Revelation 7 clearly brings out this distinction, although the 144,000 are merely a microcosm of redeemed and restored Israel.

Replacement Theology has done a lot of damage by confusing and confounding the Church and Israel. So the best way to understand this is that the Church (the Body of Christ with both redeemed Jews and Gentiles) is on earth from Pentecost until the Resurrection/Rapture. That also means that there is a numerical limit to the number of Gentiles which will be within the Church (Rom 11:25). During that time the Jews will generally be in unbelief because they have been judicially blinded by God. But many Jews are being saved today, and they try to segregate themselves as Messianic Jews. But they are in fact a part of the Church.
The so called Messianic Jews are not part of the Church at all, because they do not believe in Jesus Christ. for if they did they would be Christians in fact and not Jews at all. they the messianic Jews are looking to another Jesus of their own making, a works based one ! they truly reject Jesus Christ in fact.

Anyone who is outside of Christ Jesus is not worthy at all regardless, the so called Jews of today are not even worthy of being called Jews in fact, go study the OT and you will find in fact they do not follow such at all, the same can be said of so called Christians nowadays especially any one who is crowing on about the second coming like a chook, because it shows that they themselves are lost. for if they were truly born again they would understand that you must be truly born again of the holy spirit to be Saved= and then you are in the Kingdom of God. they are clearly on the wrong path. you can be saved nowadays, just as it was when Jesus Christ disciples were born again and Saved as they were the only true Jews that were worthy of God back in the day, the rest were led astray by the works of man, who are of this world in fact and serve Satan in fact.

From the second coming all will be saved and the world will become the Kingdom of God, because all the delusions will be burnt up. the days coming will be Hellfire ! like no other ! the morons who peddle the 2ed coming are of Satan, it is they who are under delusions of so called Jews and they are truly calling to the Devil as they are doing his will, because they are rejecting Jesus Christ in fact. they are claiming that they will not have to endure the Hellfire, but they in fact will indeed and you know why, because such will reap what they sow ! such people are not abiding in Jesus Christ in fact.
They are all clearly abiding in the works of man in fact ! not to mention that such a people are wolves because they have hope and are eager for Hellfire on others, I my self do not wish Hellfire on anyone, but that they turn and come to Jesus Christ to be truly Saved in the Holy Spirit now. I am not wishing Hellfire on the poor bastards, Jesus never did, the Jews who rejected him reaped what they sowed and were vomited out of the Land, now such claiming to be Jews nowadays do not fit the description of worthy of even the OT. not to mention that the Land was not God given in fact, but is a creation of so called Zionist who try and dominate over all the Jews and not to mention the whole world. they are doing a good job of it, but many Jews claim that them Zionist do not represent them and call them Nazis.
And I know them by their works and I know that they are Nazis, all Socialism is clearly Anti-Christ because such is a works of man in fact.
Where does Socialism lay the seeds for Christ Jesus ? I have never seen such at all, in fact sorry they are the weeds that kill any such growth in the Holy Spirit. such Nazi Socialist types dictate laws that one can not challenge them on anything they deem taboo. Queers you name it all have been empowered over you.
 

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The so called Messianic Jews are not part of the Church at all, because they do not believe in Jesus Christ. for if they did they would be Christians in fact and not Jews at all. they the messianic Jews are looking to another Jesus of their own making, a works based one ! they truly reject Jesus Christ in fact.

Anyone who is outside of Christ Jesus is not worthy at all regardless, the so called Jews of today are not even worthy of being called Jews in fact, go study the OT and you will find in fact they do not follow such at all, the same can be said of so called Christians nowadays especially any one who is crowing on about the second coming like a chook, because it shows that they themselves are lost. for if they were truly born again they would understand that you must be truly born again of the holy spirit to be Saved= and then you are in the Kingdom of God. they are clearly on the wrong path. you can be saved nowadays, just as it was when Jesus Christ disciples were born again and Saved as they were the only true Jews that were worthy of God back in the day, the rest were led astray by the works of man, who are of this world in fact and serve Satan in fact.

From the second coming all will be saved and the world will become the Kingdom of God, because all the delusions will be burnt up. the days coming will be Hellfire ! like no other ! the morons who peddle the 2ed coming are of Satan, it is they who are under delusions of so called Jews and they are truly calling to the Devil as they are doing his will, because they are rejecting Jesus Christ in fact. they are claiming that they will not have to endure the Hellfire, but they in fact will indeed and you know why, because such will reap what they sow ! such people are not abiding in Jesus Christ in fact.
They are all clearly abiding in the works of man in fact ! not to mention that such a people are wolves because they have hope and are eager for Hellfire on others, I my self do not wish Hellfire on anyone, but that they turn and come to Jesus Christ to be truly Saved in the Holy Spirit now. I am not wishing Hellfire on the poor bastards, Jesus never did, the Jews who rejected him reaped what they sowed and were vomited out of the Land, now such claiming to be Jews nowadays do not fit the description of worthy of even the OT. not to mention that the Land was not God given in fact, but is a creation of so called Zionist who try and dominate over all the Jews and not to mention the whole world. they are doing a good job of it, but many Jews claim that them Zionist do not represent them and call them Nazis.
And I know them by their works and I know that they are Nazis, all Socialism is clearly Anti-Christ because such is a works of man in fact.
Where does Socialism lay the seeds for Christ Jesus ? I have never seen such at all, in fact sorry they are the weeds that kill any such growth in the Holy Spirit. such Nazi Socialist types dictate laws that one can not challenge them on anything they deem taboo. Queers you name it all have been empowered over you.

Oh man, you have gone way out in left field.

Just because Messianic Jews use Yeshua, a Hebrew version of Christ's name doesn't mean they don't belong to Him.

And there is such a thing as a true Jew, because it originally means one born of the tribe of Judah.

The tribe of Benjamin joined with the tribe of Judah when God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms, and the tribe of Levi also joined with them in the southern "kingdom of Judah", strangers also with them. They all then took the name 'Jew', which comes from the sole tribe of Judah.

But in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, Lord Jesus showed about false ones that crept in, as false Jews, meaning these false Jews were NOT born of any of those 3 tribes of the southern kingdom.

So when you condemn Jews in general, you are condemning many of God's children and our brethren, for many of those too have accepted our Lord Jesus Christ, Yeshu'a, Messiah.
 
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I don't buy Norman Wills ideas. He is trying to make out there is Two Peoples, Two Promises; we Christians from every tribe, race, nation and language, and the Messianic Jews. Which just isn't scriptural.
The Redemption of the Nazarenes:

Jeremiah 30:23-24 See what a scorching wind has gone out from the Lord, a sweeping whirlwind, coming down onto the heads of the wicked. The Lord’s anger will not be turned aside, it will accomplish His purposes.
In days to come, you will understand.
Deut. 29:4, Isaiah 35:5, Isaiah 48:6-8

Jeremiah 31:1-40 At that time, I shall be the God of all the families of Israel and they will be My people, a people that have escaped the sword and found favour in the wilderness. From afar God will appear to His people. 2 Thess. 1:10. He loves and cares for them and will build them up again, for a Day will come when the watchmen cry out on the hills of Ephraim: Come, let us go up Zion, unto the Lord our God. Once again, they will be happy and the Land will be fruitful. They will worship God in Jerusalem. Ezekiel 20:34-36

The Lord says: be joyful for Jacob’s sake, sing praises and say- God has saved His people, He has preserved a remnant of Israel. See how He brings them from all parts of the earth, among them the blind and the lame, women and children. A vast company, they come with weeping and prayer, God will comfort and escort them. He will lead them by streams of water, on smooth paths, for He is the Father to Israel and Ephraim is His eldest son. Psalms 107, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 62:10-12

Listen to the Word of the Lord, you nations, make it known to people far away. He who scattered Israel, will gather them again and will watch over them as a shepherd watches over his flock. For God has redeemed Jacob [now every true Christian] and delivered them from their enemies. His righteous people will come with great joy into a Land of plenty and peace. Ezekiel 36:8-12, Amos 9:14-15,

Rachel weeps for her children. [Rachel is the mother of Jacob/ Israel] Shed no more tears, for they will leave the nations and return to their own Land. God has disciplined Ephraim, like an unruly bull calf. After Ephraim strayed, he repented and now in shame and remorse; reproaches himself for the sins of his youth. God says: Ephraim is still My dear son, in whom I delight and I still remember him and have compassion for him. Hosea 11:8-9 Set up signs to mark your way, the path for your return. [The dolmens across Europe] Come back virgin Israel to your towns. How long will you wander, My wayward child? Deut. 4:26, Isaiah 63:17-19, Ezekiel 4:4-6, John 7:35

This will happen: a woman will protect a man. Judges 5:7 – a precedent?

The Lord says: When I bring My people back from exile, from all parts of the world, they will live in all the Land and be satisfied. Once more will these words be heard in the Land; God bless you, the home of righteousness, the holy mountain. Ezekiel 39:27

The days are coming, says the Lord, when I will plant Israel and Judah then increase their people and livestock. In the past My intent was to uproot and inflict disaster upon them, now I shall watch over them, to build and plant. Micah 7:11-12, Ezekiel 36:8

It will no longer be said that children will suffer for their parents sins. Only those who sin will be punished for it. Ezekiel 18:20

The days are coming when I shall establish a new covenant with Israel and Judah. It will not be like the one that I made with their forefathers, when I took them out of Egypt, that covenant they broke, though I was patient with them. This will be the new Covenant that I will make with the whole House of Israel, in the latter days; I shall set My Law within them, in their hearts, all of them will know and obey Me. I will forgive and forget their wrongdoing. Ezekiel 37:26, Hebrews 8:6-12

The Lord says: As the sun and stars are set in their courses, as the wind and the sea roars- only if this fixed order changes, only then: could Israel ever cease to be a nation before Me. Micah 7:19-20, Isaiah 14:1-2, Hosea 2:18-23

The days are coming when Jerusalem will be rebuilt in My honour. It will be holy to Me, never again to be demolished. Isaiah 58:12, Micah 7:11, Jeremiah 30:18
Ref: REB. Verses abridged.

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A scorching wind, a sweeping whirlwind that will destroy the wicked’ - This is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event, the Sixth Seal of Revelation 6:12-17 and Isaiah 30:26a – a massive sunstrike that will affect all the world. Malachi 4:1-3, 2 Peter 3:7

‘God will save His people. At that time…a people will escape the Sword’ – The Lord’s righteous people will be protected on that Day. Isaiah 30:26b, Joel 2:32, Psalms 23:4

‘The Redemption of the Nazarenes’– In Jeremiah 31:6, the word translated ‘watchmen’ is ‘nazar’, meaning to set apart, to consecrate and dedicate for sacred purposes. [ref: Strongs H5144] It is the root word for Nazareth and disciples of Jesus were and still can be, known as Nazarenes. Acts 24:5 So it will be all the righteous Christian believers who will gather and go to live in the Promised Land. Colossians 1:9-20, Psalms 37:29

‘He who scattered Israel, will gather them again. His righteous people, will leave the nations and come, with great joy into a Land of plenty and peace. They will worship their God in Jerusalem’. – This is the great promise of the redemption of all God’s people, that is; all true believing Christians, who will come to live in the new country of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, in peace and prosperity. They will build the 3rd Temple and worship God similar to the ancient days. Zechariah 6:15, Ezekiel 40 to 48. God made unconditional promises to the Patriarchs and their descendants remain mostly scattered around the world. Amos 9:9, Ezekiel 34:5+11-16. They are now ‘a vast company’, who now constitute a high proportion of the population in the Western/Christian nations. Their right to ownership of the holy Land will be proven when the title deed in Jeremiah 32:14 is found. But we are told very clearly in the Bible: those with true faith will share the Blessings promised to Abraham. Galatians 3:6-9 & 26-29, Isaiah 56:1-8, John 10:16

‘It will no longer be said: the children will suffer for their parents sins’. - The sins of the forefathers are paid for by our long exile among the nations. Isaiah 27:7-9, Isaiah 40:1-2

‘the Holy mountain’ – the Temple mount. The 3rd Temple will be built and thank offerings made in it, before the Return of Jesus. Ezekiel chapters 40-48, Zechariah 8:9


The great end times story:

This prophecy from the book of the prophet Jeremiah, tells the story of how God will punish the unrighteous by a fire judgement, then how His righteous people will go to live in all of the holy Land. All who by faith, that believe in God and Jesus will receive salvation. John 3:16-18

He will make a new covenant with them, in order for His people: Nazarene Christians, from every race and language, to fulfil their destiny to be “a light to the nations”, and to spread the gospel of the coming Kingdom of God. This will be carried out by the 144,000 selected in Jerusalem. Revelation 14:1-7 The precedent to this is in Luke 10:1-20. Isaiah 49:6, Isaiah 66:19

God’s people will live in peace and prosperity, in the new country of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, in all of that area promised to Abraham so long ago. Genesis 15:18, Ezekiel 34:24-31, Joel 2:23-27

When they are settled and prosperous, the Lord will motivate a Northern confederation to come and attack Beulah, Ezekiel 38:8, Ezekiel 39:1-2. They will be totally wiped out by the Lord, Ezekiel 38:21-22, Ezekiel 39:3-5, Joel 2:20. This is in order to display His glory and power to all the nations. Ezekiel 38:23, Ezekiel 39:21

Meanwhile, the rest of the world will slowly recover from the terrible fires and earthquakes of the Day of the Lord’s wrath and they will form a One World Government, initially controlled by ten Presidents, but another will rise to take dictatorial powers. He will make a seven year peace treaty with Beulah, that not all the people agree with. Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:32 This marks the commencement of the final seven years of this age. At the middle of this time, the World Dictator takes over Beulah, Zech. 14:1-2, Rev and forcibly sits in the Temple. Daniel 11:31 This triggers the 3½ year Great Tribulation, the trumpet and bowl judgements. Those Christians who refused any dealings with the ‘beast’, as in Revelation 13:1-5, are taken to a place of safety. Revelation 12:14 1260 days later, will come the culmination of this age – the physical Return of Jesus, Zechariah 14:6-11, Rev. 19:11-21. He will destroy the armies mustered for battle in Armageddon. Revelation 16:16, Revelation 19:19-21, Zechariah 14:3-5 Then, He will reign for 1000 years. Great will be that time!
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When I heard what Norm had to say about the "Nazarene sect of Judaism (Acts 24:5)," I found another piece of the puzzle. My piece. Yours, I don't know. I would think that some would be upset by this, but sometimes one must say, "Let the chips fall where they may."
I first came across him yesterday and watched 2 of his videos. But he is still just a man and if God isn't already telling me something, I may not be able to believe it.
What I got from him was further insight into what Yahweh had already been telling me, and had been pointing me in that direction.
When I understood Norman's insight into Acts 11:26, it gave me the further understanding I'd been looking for. I knew I was the same as Christians but somehow different. Now I have a deeper understanding. I think it is telling that Norm and I are both physical descendants of Israel and called to the five-fold.
Yeshua is the center. Around Him is the five-fold (the bride); the saints (redeemed Israel); the body (the ekklesia or congregation); then the world (the unsaved).
This is not about worthiness or value. We are all unworthy servants. Our hope is in Yeshua/Jesus alone. What I'm talking about is God's holy authority structure. Not mine, not yours, His and His alone.
"I am what I am, a child of the great I Am, by the blood of the Lamb, the Lamb who was slain. I'm precious in His sight, the apple of His
eye, I am fearfully and wonderfully made." From, "Child Of God," By Ron Coates Copyright 2000 SOCAN.
 

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Oh man, you have gone way out in left field.

Just because Messianic Jews use Yeshua, a Hebrew version of Christ's name doesn't mean they don't belong to Him.

And there is such a thing as a true Jew, because it originally means one born of the tribe of Judah.

The tribe of Benjamin joined with the tribe of Judah when God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms, and the tribe of Levi also joined with them in the southern "kingdom of Judah", strangers also with them. They all then took the name 'Jew', which comes from the sole tribe of Judah.

But in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, Lord Jesus showed about false ones that crept in, as false Jews, meaning these false Jews were NOT born of any of those 3 tribes of the southern kingdom.

So when you condemn Jews in general, you are condemning many of God's children and our brethren, for many of those too have accepted our Lord Jesus Christ, Yeshu'a, Messiah.
There are no Jews left in fact. even Hitler's Nazis claimed after 3 times removed such a one was not a Jew and Hitler was safe being 3 times removed as such.

How can one claim to be a Jew ?
I you follow the Old Testament for one, regardless of race, that makes one a Jew, nowadays. but as to race ? no it never was such at all, the Jews are not a race, they are a religion, they were only one Tribe of how many Semitic Tribes back in the day.

Ok so one can prove a blood like, big deal ! that does not make you even a Israelite in any sense of reality, if one understands why Jacob became Israel and understand the Tribes of Israel is all about the coming of Jesus Christ in fact. that's the whole point ! one must be born again of the Holy Spirit end of story.
Some moron making claims of being part blood relation does not cut it with the Holy Spirit at all in fact.

Anyone who claims race as to idolise a people is just as insane as the Nazis were, such comes from the same devil worship dribble.
It's not your bloodline your race that God wants at all, it's that you abide in the Vine ! outside of that is Satan !
I am holding Jesus as the Christ ! the Alpha and the Omega and that's a fact that nothing can deny and if any try they will be of Satan.

The worthy Jews came to Jesus 2000 years ago and it's over, the not worthy Jews missed the bus 2000 years ago and they do not truly exist at all in reality, the ones claiming such today are full of crap. the poor bastards are carnal ! and totally lost, do not follow them they have nothing to do with God at all, they are Anti-Christ in fact. I hold out hope to all, but I do not idolise some so called race.
Anyone who looks to the so called Jews is like a dog that goes back to it's vomit. such a one must have no faith in Jesus Christ at all in fact. or why would one be looking towards such carnal nonsense.

Anyone who is looking putting their faith as to the second coming is not truly born again and saved, because they are looking for him, but I am found ! and I know who he is, that's the difference. I have totally all my faith in Jesus Christ, I need no other at all. I understand that the Second coming will come after all is burnet up, but I will not be responsible for such, for I understand that I am of the Kingdom of God now. such can be so for anyone now, you do not have to wait for the second coming, people have been saved now for 2000 years.
 

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There are no Jews left in fact. even Hitler's Nazis claimed after 3 times removed such a one was not a Jew and Hitler was safe being 3 times removed as such.

How can one claim to be a Jew ?
I you follow the Old Testament for one, regardless of race, that makes one a Jew, nowadays. but as to race ? no it never was such at all, the Jews are not a race, they are a religion, they were only one Tribe of how many Semitic Tribes back in the day.

Ok so one can prove a blood like, big deal ! that does not make you even a Israelite in any sense of reality, if one understands why Jacob became Israel and understand the Tribes of Israel is all about the coming of Jesus Christ in fact. that's the whole point ! one must be born again of the Holy Spirit end of story.
Some moron making claims of being part blood relation does not cut it with the Holy Spirit at all in fact.

Anyone who claims race as to idolise a people is just as insane as the Nazis were, such comes from the same devil worship dribble.
It's not your bloodline your race that God wants at all, it's that you abide in the Vine ! outside of that is Satan !
I am holding Jesus as the Christ ! the Alpha and the Omega and that's a fact that nothing can deny and if any try they will be of Satan.

The worthy Jews came to Jesus 2000 years ago and it's over, the not worthy Jews missed the bus 2000 years ago and they do not truly exist at all in reality, the ones claiming such today are full of crap. the poor bastards are carnal ! and totally lost, do not follow them they have nothing to do with God at all, they are Anti-Christ in fact. I hold out hope to all, but I do not idolise some so called race.
Anyone who looks to the so called Jews is like a dog that goes back to it's vomit. such a one must have no faith in Jesus Christ at all in fact. or why would one be looking towards such carnal nonsense.

Anyone who is looking putting their faith as to the second coming is not truly born again and saved, because they are looking for him, but I am found ! and I know who he is, that's the difference. I have totally all my faith in Jesus Christ, I need no other at all. I understand that the Second coming will come after all is burnet up, but I will not be responsible for such, for I understand that I am of the Kingdom of God now. such can be so for anyone now, you do not have to wait for the second coming, people have been saved now for 2000 years.

You have left The Word of God with much of that above belief system. You cannot do YOUR OWN salvation, which involves also His future LITERAL Kingdom here on earth, with Israel's restoration.
 

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You have left The Word of God with much of that above belief system. You cannot do YOUR OWN salvation, which involves also His future LITERAL Kingdom here on earth, with Israel's restoration.
The Israel that is talked about now is of the making of mans works, such is a counterfeit.
All the people who came to Jesus were worthy of in regard to being Israel from the start with the Apostles in fact, remember Nathaniel ! what was it that Jesus said to him ? Jesus said that he was a true Israelite in fact and remember that Jesus said to his disciples to go out to the Israelites and if they do not believe them, what to do ? have noting to do with them, walk away and do not even take the sand of their sandals ? now Jews never said go to the Jews he said they who claim to be Israelites, now Jesus knew that not all who claim to be Israel are worthy, just as he said not all Christians are worth of him truly. oh they do claim X, Y and Z but they are dupes to the works of man in fact, they give God lip service if that in reality and that's why when talking to Nathaniel we see Jesus giving account of him as such.

Israel needs no restoration, that's a carnal perception, oh we are going to build a State and call it Israel :confused:o_O:rolleyes: it's the individuals who becomes an Israel. remember Jacob he became Israel in fact and the reason why he got the title ? not everyone is worthy of such a title regardless of your tribe membership and we see that is a fact in the Bible.
Israel is within ones grasp to obtain, one has to serve God ! the creation of the State claiming to be Israel is a joke ! such is a work of man and a creation of the Rothschild's and such in fact. Lord Rothschild has said it's his creation and he also made himself clear that he also dominated over the British Monarch. he made a statement that he cared not for the establishment at all for he controlled the money ! not to mention he and his banking cohorts created WW2 that killed say 60 million goyim and 6 million Jews all in the name of the creation of the State that they claim to be Israel ? well it's not in fact because Jesus has the title of being the King of Israel in fact and anyone who rejects such is going to Hell as a traitor that they are.

You see all carnal morons ask for signs, they have to see it before having faith, but they also seen Jesus in the flesh, to no avail also. but what does the Bible say about them of faith that believe in Jesus and yet have not seen him ? oh yes that's right were does such truly come from ? it's the Holy Spirit that one must abide in. one of little faith does not cut it you know, the Bible points that out and says you need the faith that can move mountains.
The one with little faith will look to such nonsense as the creation of such a States creation, but one of full faith will see such for what it truly is, just another work of mans nonsense.

I see people get so pumped up with the creation of the State, yet I know they are of little faith in God and truly look to mans works, regardless of what they may claim. I have seen their ego trip take over, so much for their faith in God. they are bastards who idolise idiots.

I know that such bastards are clearly setting up to exterminate most of the worlds population, they have told me about their ends in glee.
Jesus Christ warned of such people claiming to be Jews and said they were of their Father of Lies and was a murderer from the beginning.
 

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The Israel that is talked about now is of the making of mans works, such is a counterfeit.
All the people who came to Jesus were worthy of in regard to being Israel from the start with the Apostles in fact, remember Nathaniel ! what was it that Jesus said to him ? Jesus said that he was a true Israelite in fact and remember that Jesus said to his disciples to go out to the Israelites and if they do not believe them, what to do ? have noting to do with them, walk away and do not even take the sand of their sandals ? now Jews never said go to the Jews he said they who claim to be Israelites, now Jesus knew that not all who claim to be Israel are worthy, just as he said not all Christians are worth of him truly. oh they do claim X, Y and Z but they are dupes to the works of man in fact, they give God lip service if that in reality and that's why when talking to Nathaniel we see Jesus giving account of him as such.

Israel needs no restoration, that's a carnal perception, oh we are going to build a State and call it Israel :confused:o_O:rolleyes: it's the individuals who becomes an Israel. remember Jacob he became Israel in fact and the reason why he got the title ? not everyone is worthy of such a title regardless of your tribe membership and we see that is a fact in the Bible.
Israel is within ones grasp to obtain, one has to serve God ! the creation of the State claiming to be Israel is a joke ! such is a work of man and a creation of the Rothschild's and such in fact. Lord Rothschild has said it's his creation and he also made himself clear that he also dominated over the British Monarch. he made a statement that he cared not for the establishment at all for he controlled the money ! not to mention he and his banking cohorts created WW2 that killed say 60 million goyim and 6 million Jews all in the name of the creation of the State that they claim to be Israel ? well it's not in fact because Jesus has the title of being the King of Israel in fact and anyone who rejects such is going to Hell as a traitor that they are.

You see all carnal morons ask for signs, they have to see it before having faith, but they also seen Jesus in the flesh, to no avail also. but what does the Bible say about them of faith that believe in Jesus and yet have not seen him ? oh yes that's right were does such truly come from ? it's the Holy Spirit that one must abide in. one of little faith does not cut it you know, the Bible points that out and says you need the faith that can move mountains.
The one with little faith will look to such nonsense as the creation of such a States creation, but one of full faith will see such for what it truly is, just another work of mans nonsense.

I see people get so pumped up with the creation of the State, yet I know they are of little faith in God and truly look to mans works, regardless of what they may claim. I have seen their ego trip take over, so much for their faith in God. they are bastards who idolise idiots.

I know that such bastards are clearly setting up to exterminate most of the worlds population, they have told me about their ends in glee.
Jesus Christ warned of such people claiming to be Jews and said they were of their Father of Lies and was a murderer from the beginning.

The restoration of the old kingdom of Israel will... be a reality when Jesus returns, it is written (see Jeremiah 31; Ezekiel 37; Ezekiel 48). Jesus even promised His 12 Apostles they each would reign over one of the 12 tribes of Israel in that future kingdom on earth. The Canaanites that have crept into Israel will be cast out in that time, like the last verse of Zechariah 14 reveals. But the majority of God's chosen that He blinded per Romans 11 will accept Jesus on that day. Like the old saying about not counting your chickens before the eggs hatch, don't count out the unbelieving until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.
 

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You must be truly born again to enter into the Kingdom of God.
There is no such thing as Jews truly for 2000 years.
All they who claim to be Jews for 2000 years are not in fact. they are Bastards to the OT in fact and Bastards to God in fact, as they reject Jesus Christ in fact.
This is the mob the leadership that is domination over the so called Jews, they hate Jesus Christ in fact and I will point out that anyone who looks to any such as them will go to Hell, because one is serving the Anti-Christ in fact. One better turn and look to Jesus and repent of such a grave Sin.
Get on with being a worthy Christian I say.

Oh but what about the Anti-Semite label, boy that's Heavy ! such is a heavy thing nowadays right, Heavy ! you don't want to be going there for fear of offending ! who ! the TV Hollywood ? the Socialist ? who in fact ! the Politically Correct Nazis ? come on man ! what about God, Jesus Christ !

Go out and start bagging Jesus Christ and see what happens to you nowadays :eek: you will not raze an eyebrow !
Claim one is an Ant-Christ. big deal, no one cares, not the Government or the TV media.
Claim one is an Anti-Semite and all hell brakes loose, everyone is deeply cut and offended, you are a monster! the Media will have a field day on your ass, you will lose your job on the spot, you name it ! what a spastic shallow uninformed society, that just gets by on indoctrinated dribble and is not truly educated on such a subject at all, what a mongrel dog society, it will reap what it has sown. the poor blighted bastards, boy they have hellfire coming their way.

Who has created this idiot society, clearly the Satanist in fact ! I can't believe it, the biggest load of stupid hogwash is beyond me, years ago I would never of believed what I am coming across in the last 10 years.
Just next door rentals moved out, young 17 and 20yo couple with good jobs mind, had lived with a dog locked in the house doing it's business all over, bed rooms carpet and all. the owner were not impressed. Who are these people ! o_O :confused::rolleyes: :oops: oh no ! I was to do a job on a Dean of a Uni once and I had to walk out, it was that filthy, they were total grubs.
 

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You must be truly born again to enter into the Kingdom of God.
There is no such thing as Jews truly for 2000 years.
All they who claim to be Jews for 2000 years are not in fact. they are Bastards to the OT in fact and Bastards to God in fact, as they reject Jesus Christ in fact.
This is the mob the leadership that is domination over the so called Jews, they hate Jesus Christ in fact and I will point out that anyone who looks to any such as them will go to Hell, because one is serving the Anti-Christ in fact. One better turn and look to Jesus and repent of such a grave Sin.
Get on with being a worthy Christian I say.

Oh but what about the Anti-Semite label, boy that's Heavy ! such is a heavy thing nowadays right, Heavy ! you don't want to be going there for fear of offending ! who ! the TV Hollywood ? the Socialist ? who in fact ! the Politically Correct Nazis ? come on man ! what about God, Jesus Christ !

Go out and start bagging Jesus Christ and see what happens to you nowadays :eek: you will not raze an eyebrow !
Claim one is an Ant-Christ. big deal, no one cares, not the Government or the TV media.
Claim one is an Anti-Semite and all hell brakes loose, everyone is deeply cut and offended, you are a monster! the Media will have a field day on your ass, you will lose your job on the spot, you name it ! what a spastic shallow uninformed society, that just gets by on indoctrinated dribble and is not truly educated on such a subject at all, what a mongrel dog society, it will reap what it has sown. the poor blighted bastards, boy they have hellfire coming their way.

Who has created this idiot society, clearly the Satanist in fact ! I can't believe it, the biggest load of stupid hogwash is beyond me, years ago I would never of believed what I am coming across in the last 10 years.
Just next door rentals moved out, young 17 and 20yo couple with good jobs mind, had lived with a dog locked in the house doing it's business all over, bed rooms carpet and all. the owner were not impressed. Who are these people ! o_O :confused::rolleyes: :oops: oh no ! I was to do a job on a Dean of a Uni once and I had to walk out, it was that filthy, they were total grubs.
I am not a Jew. My ancestors haven't knowingly had anything to do with Jews for nearly 2,800 years. We are, however, distant cousins.
The last while we were in the same land, we slaughtered tens of thousands of each other during multiple wars. We were the worst of enemies.
When I hear you talk about the Jews, you remind me of Arnold Murray and Christian Identity. What I detect in your voice when I hear you talk about Israel is not the Spirit of Love (Jesus Messiah).
Nearly 21 years ago I chose to follow Jesus by doing what He said by taking up my cross daily and following Him. Not a man. Not all the popular frauds who see Christians as weak-minded people who are easy to take advantage of.
I practice what I preach, which is death to self through Christ crucified. Which for me has been a 20-year process.
Christians are understandably concerned when someone new starts talking about Israel and things they don't understand.
I see myself as a follower of the Way (John 14:6), which at one time was called, "The Nazarene sect of Judaism."
Acts 11:19-26 shows the disciples taught Christians at Antioch for a year. Though closely related spiritually to them, it was technically a mistake to call the disciples "Christians."
I'd like to say that I heard a teaching that said that God blessed every person on earth by giving them some Israeli DNA. I reject this.
You seem to think that God forever cursed everyone descended from Israel and took His Kingdom and gave it to non-Israelis. If so, you are wrong.
God has not excluded you and He has not excluded me. Just as no one is saved because of their ancestry, so also no one is excluded by it either.
Your hate for the Jews has blinded you to the promises God made to the Patriarchs. You need to repent. Do you not know what spirit we are of?
I understand that Jesus commands us to love our enemies, which includes the Jews and the left. I recently repented of wanting to assist in the execution of certain left-wing leaders.
Since then I've realized that there are people on the left that are not power-hungry Satanic pedophiles.
I was raised by a man who was left-of-liberal, a socialist, who was also an atheist. However, he worked hard and provided a good life for his wife and 5 kids. He would help anyone if he thought it made sense to do so.
Young men, in the same way, submit yourselves to your elders. And all of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, so that in due time He may exalt you." 1 Peter 5:5-6 Berean Study Bible.
 
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I am not a Jew. My ancestors haven't knowingly had anything to do with Jews for nearly 2,800 years. We are, however, distant cousins.
The last while we were in the same land, we slaughtered tens of thousands of each other during multiple wars. We were the worst of enemies.
When I hear you talk about the Jews, you remind me of Arnold Murray and Christian Identity. What I detect in your voice when I hear you talk about Israel is not the Spirit of Love (Jesus Messiah).
Nearly 21 years ago I chose to follow Jesus by doing what He said by taking up my cross daily and following Him. Not a man. Not all the popular frauds who see Christians as weak-minded people who are easy to take advantage of.
I practice what I preach, which is death to self through Christ crucified. Which for me has been a 20-year process.
Christians are understandably concerned when someone new starts talking about Israel and things they don't understand.
I see myself as a follower of the Way (John 14:6), which at one time was called, "The Nazarene sect of Judaism."
Acts 11:19-26 shows the disciples taught Christians at Antioch for a year. Though closely related spiritually to them, it was technically a mistake to call the disciples "Christians."
I'd like to say that I heard a teaching that said that God blessed every person on earth by giving them some Israeli DNA. I reject this.
You seem to think that God forever cursed everyone descended from Israel and took His Kingdom and gave it to non-Israelis. If so, you are wrong.
God has not excluded you and He has not excluded me. Just as no one is saved because of their ancestry, so also no one is excluded by it either.
Your hate for the Jews has blinded you to the promises God made to the Patriarchs. You need to repent. Do you not know what spirit we are of?
I understand that Jesus commands us to love our enemies, which includes the Jews and the left. I recently repented of wanting to assist in the execution of certain left-wing leaders.
Since then I've realized that there are people on the left that are not power-hungry Satanic pedophiles.
I was raised by a man who was left-of-liberal, a socialist, who was also an atheist. However, he worked hard and provided a good life for his wife and 5 kids. He would help anyone if he thought it made sense to do so.
Young men, in the same way, submit yourselves to your elders. And all of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, so that in due time He may exalt you." 1 Peter 5:5-6 Berean Study Bible.
What you could detect is that I am not fooled by they who claim to be Jews, that's the point I am making, they are not worthy of the OT at all in fact. I would have some regard for such if they were worthy of the OT and then I would regard them worthy of such.

All are a curse who do not abide in the Vine in fact they are of Satan.

I do not believe that God cursed everyone who descended from Israel at all, I pointed out they who were worthy of Holy Moses and it was only they who could come to Christ Jesus in fact. because a real Jew needs to totally have faith and follow Moses in fact and outside of that path they were and are led astray in fact. if a Jew nowadays were to take Moses seriously they will have hope in coming to Jesus Christ in fact and outside of that one has no hope at all, because the Jews are being led up the garden path by Satanist in fact. any worthy Christian would understand why that is.

A Christian shows Grace to them outside of Christ for a reason. Love ? the English word Love is sadly a nonsense dribbling position. a dad would always show his love for his child by being stern to them and cracking the whip and setting an example, tough Love ? one may say but such is the only way sometimes. now if one was to let his children run wild, is that love ? no ! that's abuse.

When we see Nathaniel tending the Tree ? (Israel). same is such as one in the Garden, tending to the weeds ect to make a go of it's future. so what can be made out of the degenerate dad who lets his child run wild. he may do such due to love ? he may not want to hurt their feelings ? but has he tended the Garden their of ? well no ! that so called love is just like the modern day morons who look to Political Correctness and think that there Socialist god is going to save them. such is the works of man, Godless ! it's obvious that they will crash and burn. it's like letting a brat kid behind the wheel of a car, such will lead to disaster, because they are not worthy of being in charge.
One only submit to one who is above them for a good reason, we are not all equal at all in fact.

The ones on the left are just as Jesus said of, not worthy of God regardless of their claims. not all of the left are as deranged as you say, but they are still not worthy in fact, because they are lost and they only led others astray.
A lot of people going to Church are not worthy Christians, they maybe worthy religious wise but that does not count. you must be born again in Christ Jesus Holy Spirit in fact.
Being a goody two shoes does not cut it at all.
I have come across many devils in my working life and you know what, they come across as nice people and if not more than nice? well that rings warning bells to me, for the devil is in the detail as to why they come across that way initially and then you fine such a moron on the loose.
 

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To me, the nation of Israel is just like the church. Neither are worthy of God's love, grace if you will. I believe that we all stand on even ground before God. I also believe that Ezekiel 8:10 talks about the condition of the human heart that hasn't been circumcised by God.
As in the days of Noah, I believe that there are some here today that are not fully human. They are not God's holy creation and do not belong anywhere because they were not in God's plan. I've been instructed to love people. I'll leave the rest to God.
I used to have some "close" friends. Then I wouldn't believe things like the human heart is wild. That's wild alright...a wild pile of crap! Shortly after they got from me what they wanted, what God wanted them to have, I refused to accept their control and I was rejected. Ostracized. Traditional Ritualistic Churchianity. Where everybody wants to be a star. Fallen angels are stars, at least they used to be.
You sometimes remind me of my oldest son. He hates religiosity. Especially those, who in his words, "think their crap don't stink."
I don't believe in the "Jews are Kenites" theory. I've lost friends over this but I won't budge. S.C. has its roots in white supremacy and is, in my opinion, a cult.
Anyway, you have a nice remainder of your day. Ron.
 

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To me, the nation of Israel is just like the church. Neither are worthy of God's love, grace if you will. I believe that we all stand on even ground before God. I also believe that Ezekiel 8:10 talks about the condition of the human heart that hasn't been circumcised by God.
As in the days of Noah, I believe that there are some here today that are not fully human. They are not God's holy creation and do not belong anywhere because they were not in God's plan. I've been instructed to love people. I'll leave the rest to God.
I used to have some "close" friends. Then I wouldn't believe things like the human heart is wild. That's wild alright...a wild pile of crap! Shortly after they got from me what they wanted, what God wanted them to have, I refused to accept their control and I was rejected. Ostracized. Traditional Ritualistic Churchianity. Where everybody wants to be a star. Fallen angels are stars, at least they used to be.
You sometimes remind me of my oldest son. He hates religiosity. Especially those, who in his words, "think their crap don't stink."
I don't believe in the "Jews are Kenites" theory. I've lost friends over this but I won't budge. S.C. has its roots in white supremacy and is, in my opinion, a cult.
Anyway, you have a nice remainder of your day. Ron.
Tell that to the Jews who followed Jesus and the ones who were led astray or rejected Jesus back in the day.

You all stand on even ground ? But Jesus clearly said that such do not, why did Jesus point out that Nathaniel was a true Israelite as such, he was impressed with him in fact because he was true to God, but what of the others who did not cut the mustard to be like Nathaniel ?

What is white supremacy ? I have never seen such claimed by anyone here in Australia. I think that most white people are fools myself not to mention the same is so for any Race. and I believe that Salvation is their for all in Christ Jesus, not to mention that I believe that all are cursed without Jesus Christ, so anyone outside of Christ Jesus that is not truly born again in the holy spirit, is lost regardless of their race and colour does not come into it at all. the Jews of today do not cut it at all, such is nonsense dragged up by Satanist and such has all the hallmarks of Nazi Germany racial racist dribbling madness or a so called superior race clap trap con job that only a total moron would stupe to believe.

The Zionist Jews of today are the biggest racist bigots the world has in fact, it's even worst than Nazi Germanys position. and just look at all the dupes who are idolising the so called Jews, most are totally ignorant and do not even understand the Jews at all, they make moronic statements about the Jews are all the same ! wow what ignorance ! not all Jews are the same and not all Jews support the so called Zionist, they know such is a whore that was in bed with the Nazis and still is. it's seen as a Satanic Whore trying to dominate over all the Jews, not to mention the World playing games with ignorant people who are brainwashed to idolise such a whore that is totally Anti-Christ.

The Satanist have bewitched the world into getting totally offended in anything clamed to be Anti-Semitic, we see the outrage of such dupes, but what of anyone with Anti-Christ stance ! well that falls on deaf ears 24/7 such does not even raze a eyebrow! all such are condemned and are going to Hell for disregarding Christ Jesus in fact, because such proves that they are of their Father the Devil in fact and they will reap what they sow the poor bastards.
 

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Ron: I've never heard of this theory before, concerning (blood-line) Israelites (not the fake type Jews of today I hope you are not including) identifiable today and tomorrow, to 'leave' the Body of Christ in the future? It raises all kinds of questions? What does this mean when a Christianany Christian leaves the Body of Christ to you, to go to a 'special' physical location. Are they still in the Body of Christ or not? Are they a special type of Christian within the Body? I'm really confused here. You are mixing a specific physical ancestry of a people since about 2000 years ago, with their common spiritual renewal to Christ, within the Body, on equal footing and in importance here. Enlighten me. Can you show me some scripture for this stunning revelation, for me anyway.

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Hi. I believe there is the body (Greek-ekklesia), the chosen (the united 12 tribes of Israel), and the bride (144,000 from the 12 tribes who have "washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb."
This is not a theory of mine, but what I believe God is showing me through His word, His voice, and other sources. He started talking to me about it in 1996. Don't take my word for it, ask Him yourself.
When God wakes up exiled Israel, the body will perceive that this is God's doing. This will be a time of great joy for all concerned. In fact, the body and the nations will "carry" us home to the restored land Israel. With its original borders. We'll need the space.
Jesus walked this earth and taught His disciples. Though closely spiritually related (the most important type), I believe the disciples were technically, "the Nazarine sect of Judaism." Jesus was the Nazarine, the Way.
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they had assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch." Acts 11:26 KJV
There were 2 sub-groups here. The chosen and the body. The chosen were chosen to be used by God to spread His knowledge throughout the earth. The chosen were supposed to serve the body.
At times Israel thought she was too holy to associate with "sinners." At others, she turned to false gods. All of these times she was not being the servant of the Lord, but I'm sure she looked pious enough. We never fool God.
Besides going to worship school, I don't have bible school training. My training is 20 years of taking up my cross and following Jesus, reading the word, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
The Kevin Prosch song, "Kiss The Son," is about this process.
Yeshua repaired my faulty personality foundation. He then told me that what He was going to do in me, He was going to do through me. "In us and through us." I don't feel like my job is to lead people to where they need to eat and drink but to inspire others to start following Jesus for themselves, and to start thinking for themselves. Keep at it and eventually, everything else will fall into line. Shalom
 

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Tell that to the Jews who followed Jesus and the ones who were led astray or rejected Jesus back in the day.

You all stand on even ground ? But Jesus clearly said that such do not, why did Jesus point out that Nathaniel was a true Israelite as such, he was impressed with him in fact because he was true to God, but what of the others who did not cut the mustard to be like Nathaniel ?

What is white supremacy ? I have never seen such claimed by anyone here in Australia. I think that most white people are fools myself not to mention the same is so for any Race. and I believe that Salvation is their for all in Christ Jesus, not to mention that I believe that all are cursed without Jesus Christ, so anyone outside of Christ Jesus that is not truly born again in the holy spirit, is lost regardless of their race and colour does not come into it at all. the Jews of today do not cut it at all, such is nonsense dragged up by Satanist and such has all the hallmarks of Nazi Germany racial racist dribbling madness or a so called superior race clap trap con job that only a total moron would stupe to believe.

The Zionist Jews of today are the biggest racist bigots the world has in fact, it's even worst than Nazi Germanys position. and just look at all the dupes who are idolising the so called Jews, most are totally ignorant and do not even understand the Jews at all, they make moronic statements about the Jews are all the same ! wow what ignorance ! not all Jews are the same and not all Jews support the so called Zionist, they know such is a whore that was in bed with the Nazis and still is. it's seen as a Satanic Whore trying to dominate over all the Jews, not to mention the World playing games with ignorant people who are brainwashed to idolise such a whore that is totally Anti-Christ.

The Satanist have bewitched the world into getting totally offended in anything clamed to be Anti-Semitic, we see the outrage of such dupes, but what of anyone with Anti-Christ stance ! well that falls on deaf ears 24/7 such does not even raze a eyebrow! all such are condemned and are going to Hell for disregarding Christ Jesus in fact, because such proves that they are of their Father the Devil in fact and they will reap what they sow the poor bastards.
The last few times my ancestors met with the Jews were when they were at war with each other and slaughtered tens of thousands of each other. In fact, the tribe of Benjamin was taken down to 600. We left off enemies.
God will make us one branch, but other issues will need to be dealt with. I'll be happy when they stop calling my type Jews because God never told me I'm a Jew. I understand that Judah's Levites are called Jews, but I'm associated with Ephraim.
God called us chosen because He chose us for a reason. We are not better than anyone else but chosen to serve God in a specific manner.
When it comes to achieving right standing with God on one's own strength, we all stand on even ground. After all, our own righteousness is filth in God's eyes.
For the most part, white supremacy is a myth. For the most part.
I recently joined a group that seemed to respect God's word, though they went on about the achievements of white people. After all the clap-trap that's gone on about how white people are inherently evil, I thought it appropriate for people to re-affirm themselves.
Then I heard about Shepherd's Chapel and my alarm went off. When I saw the initials C.I. I investigated. Sure enough, it was Christian Identity. I immediately left. They do not represent the white race.
I don't know what groups there are in Australia, but there are many racist groups in America. Including the American Nazi Party and Black Lives Matter. The latter being a Marxist group. These are all hate-groups that disobey the order of Yeshua to love each other.
We all need to get to the place where we celebrate our differences as we also celebrate the God of creativity. Shalom.
 
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