Don't bother to try to gaslight me like I can't read for myself.Wrong.
I am pointing out questionable claims made about the Bible.
Do you have answers to the questions on posts #2 and #3?
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Don't bother to try to gaslight me like I can't read for myself.Wrong.
I am pointing out questionable claims made about the Bible.
Do you have answers to the questions on posts #2 and #3?
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What he is saying is that the OT writers were not writing prophecy about Jesus, but were writing other things. Then the NT writers came along and plucked out parts that were not prophecy about Jesus, saying that they were, making out the NT writers to be liars.
I'd call that heresy, and the promoter of such suggestions an heretic.
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One of the first things I notice about someone teaching falsely is that they seldom post a Bible verse. Generally they will post just a reference and then go on to make their false claims. Generally I find that actually posting the verses themselves will clarify the matter.1
Genesis 3:15
When sin first enters the world, God promises a savior -- the Messiah -- to resolve the problem of sin and reconcile people with God
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
This is the same as the first. You seem to have already pumped up your list that already does not show what you claim.2
Genesis 3:15
The Messiah would be born of a woman -- he would be a human, as opposed to an angel or other type of being
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
Genesis 22:18 KJV3
Genesis 22:18
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham, because of Abraham's great faith
Matthew 1:1, Luke 3:34, Romans 4:13, Galatians 3:7
I'm not calling them liars. But the comparative texts raise questions.What he is saying is that the OT writers were not writing prophecy about Jesus, but were writing other things. Then the NT writers came along and plucked out parts that were not prophecy about Jesus, saying that they were, making out the NT writers to be liars.
Again, gaslighting won't work here. Not with me.I'm not calling them liars. But the comparative texts raise questions.
But apparently, you don't allow questions.
It's not my list. There are 70 references. You say the first three are good. The question is:I'm not wasting any more time on this, this is not a list of supposed fulfillments of "aquired prophecies", this is a sham. Did you think no one would look??
Did you respond to my three examples in posts #24 and #28?You've posted a concocted list that doesn't substantiate your assertion that the NT writers were falsely claiming "fulfilled prophecy". So gaslight all you want if it makes you feel better, but I've read your threads. You cast doubt on the Scriptures. You've been doing this a long time.
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Why bother? Your list isn't what you purport it to be. And do you think you will convince me to distrust the NT writers? Think again.Did you respond to my three examples
I said the first three don't show what you've claimed. That the NT writes appropriated prophecies not meant for what they said.You say the first three are good.
Why bother? Your list isn't what you purport it to be. And do you think you will convince me to distrust the NT writers? Think again.
Were messianic prophecies acquired, rather than intended? (in the original texts)
I recently remembered a prophecy referred to by Jesus. But I also remembered that orthodox Jews typically reject these "prophecies" saying that is not what they meant. Were some of these prophecies, or other OT quotations acquired rather than intended? Here are a couple. (we'll need to...www.christianityboard.com
They have an objective overview of their own scriptures.Then you believe Jewish unbelievers over the Bible. Not a good look.
And there you have it.They have an objective overview of their own scriptures.
Perhaps we should listen to them.
Don't tell me what to post, or what not to.And make a mental note . . . don't try to gaslight me on this one either in some future day.
The Apostle Paul is guilty as well. Just sayin'. See post #48.We should accept the word of Jewish unbelievers over Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
You have no interest in the truth, just choosing sides.Then you believe Jewish unbelievers over the Bible. Not a good look.
Really? You sure have it out for Christians.Don't tell me what to post, or what not to.
This is why people hate Christians. Well done.
Fully repugnant that you would drag Paul into your heresy.The Apostle Paul is guilty as well. Just sayin'. See post #48.
Another foolish statement.You have no interest in the truth, just choosing sides.
Prove me wrong.
Put up, or shut up.Another foolish statement.
I'm not playing your games, and I don't care about your accusations.Put up, or shut up.