On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!
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Those born-again(saved) believers that choose to not believe in the catching up(rapture) return of Jesus are saved but left behind(their choice) and then must try to live under anti-christ rule and through the great tribulation. Why choose do things the hard way??
CoreIssue
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The Bible doesn't say that. You are either church six or seven.
Saints are not asked they are snatched away in the rapture. It is called thief in the night, not conductor collecting tickets.
Copperhead
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Well, you did post a Hebrews reference, now you should provide OT passages that also support your analysis.
Soverign Grace
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I've listened to Revelations on CD a number of times but only recently began to really begin to understand it. I have a sense of foreboding because I've been reading about how bad the economic condition of America is, and that Trump is hiding the true state of our economy from the public. I had high hopes for him, but now I've seen that he's changed course from a Populist to a Globalist. I think he's going to hasten the demise of America to make way for the New World Order. I'm really shocked when I see believers cut other believers up for remarking about the nearness of the end times, calling them "Chicken Little" and other names, when Christ Himself told us to watch.
I'm really hoping that the end times aren't too far off. I can't imagine our times getting much worse than this. I've watched several documentaries with people who lived under communism warning that America is exactly how their country started out before turning to communism.
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? (Matthew 24:35-45).
Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch. Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back--whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: 'Watch!' (Mark 13:33-37)
I'm really hoping that the end times aren't too far off. I can't imagine our times getting much worse than this. I've watched several documentaries with people who lived under communism warning that America is exactly how their country started out before turning to communism.
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? (Matthew 24:35-45).
Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch. Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back--whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: 'Watch!' (Mark 13:33-37)
Soverign Grace
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I used to think that Trump was our answer but learned that it's only the Hegelian Dialectic at work. Americans have been played, but it's understandable. I was looking for a savior too after Obominable. Americans have to mature from the illusion that a savior is going to come and make it all better. Most Christians today aren't using the discernment that we've all been given. Scripture says our "senses are trained by reason of use" but too many have put their rose-colored glasses on.
“Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Trump All Jesuit Kitchen Cabinet; An Obamanation Redux
Face facts!! USA has never had it so good!! Thank God and president Trump! USA economy =best ever, USA military rebuilt and Americabecoming great again!!!
CoreIssue
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Why does someone need to post OT support when the NT speaks for itself?
Not saying I agree with his statement but I sure don't agree with your statement.
Davy
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Look at this brother... here's another view of that...
Luke 17:34-37
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, "Where, Lord?" And he said unto them, "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."
KJV
Here's our Lord Jesus' answer to that in Matthew 24:28...
Matt 24:28
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
KJV
What it all means is, His disciples asked Him just 'Where' the first ones would be taken to.
And His answer was a riddle - to wheresoever the dead body ("carcase") is, that's where the eagles (actually vultures) will gather.
The idea is that those in Christ DO NOT WANT TO BE THE FIRST ONE TAKEN.
We instead are to stay at the mill grinding, working for Jesus, waiting on Him to come.
Jesus says==pray you be counted worthy to escape the coming judgments We born=again believers are not appointed to wrath! PTL.
CoreIssue
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But in the rapture there will be no carcass left behind.
The carcass references in the Bible pertaining to those who do not belong to Christ.
Soverign Grace
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I faced facts and researched it thoroughly before coming to the conclusion I have: "the wise makes his way sure." I'm 99% positive Trump is owned by the Jesuits. It's all a lie.
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CoreIssue
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Trump is not perfect, but he most assuredly is not a Catholic.
From what you have posted earlier you're getting your information from conspiracy sites that have no credibility.
Copperhead
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He might not be Catholic, but he did attend Jesuit-controlled colleges: Ann Coulter’s Jesuit Problem – Johnny Cirucci
Bobby Jo
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You know I was told there was a Santa Claus and I believed it. I was also told to trust the Police and I believed it. And I was told that Jesus would "rapture" the church and I believed it. Then I discovered they all lied.
Sometimes it takes "experience" to discover that people lie for different reasons, usually CONTROL. But in the end, both the liars and the gullible suffer, the liar to hell and the gullible being hung out to dry for being gullible.
And to reinforce what "Davy"said:
For those who aren't preparing themselves and their households for the Mark of the Beast in ~2 years, -- well, we DO need a "Great Falling Away", so your participation will help fulfill Scripture. -- It wouldn't be MY CHOICE, but we ALL get to choose!
And to add an obvious consideration Rev. 20 says the "dead" are not raised until the Millennial Kingdom has ended. And we "know" that those who are alive and remain shall ascend AFTER the dead are raised.
What?!? No Santa? REALLY?!?
Bobby Jo
PS I pity those poor souls left on earth as the New Jerusalem grabs the last of the dead, and then proceeds on it's course through the universe, leaving those who are live and remain on earth to slowly perish for the earth's resources having been exhausted. Too bad for them. -- If ONLY GOD had used his "rapture" for these people ...
Sometimes it takes "experience" to discover that people lie for different reasons, usually CONTROL. But in the end, both the liars and the gullible suffer, the liar to hell and the gullible being hung out to dry for being gullible.
And to reinforce what "Davy"said:
Rev. 14
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also shall drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Matt. 24
40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.
28 Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
-- Please note that the eagles are basically vultures, eat carrion, and there to consume the dead bodies.
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also shall drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Matt. 24
40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.
28 Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
-- Please note that the eagles are basically vultures, eat carrion, and there to consume the dead bodies.
For those who aren't preparing themselves and their households for the Mark of the Beast in ~2 years, -- well, we DO need a "Great Falling Away", so your participation will help fulfill Scripture. -- It wouldn't be MY CHOICE, but we ALL get to choose!
And to add an obvious consideration Rev. 20 says the "dead" are not raised until the Millennial Kingdom has ended. And we "know" that those who are alive and remain shall ascend AFTER the dead are raised.
What?!? No Santa? REALLY?!?
Bobby Jo
PS I pity those poor souls left on earth as the New Jerusalem grabs the last of the dead, and then proceeds on it's course through the universe, leaving those who are live and remain on earth to slowly perish for the earth's resources having been exhausted. Too bad for them. -- If ONLY GOD had used his "rapture" for these people ...
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The earth will be cleansed by fire and made new and the New Jerusalem will come down to earth 1500 miles square and will be the home of God with His family for all eternity!!! Where will you be for eternity??
CoreIssue
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That is like saying Notre Dame produces multitudes of priests and nuns.
Even as a kid it was known as a party school.
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