Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[Taken]

Our thought begin in the soul, that would be our mind.

Post # 2177

 

[Taken]

Taken, I'M not calling the mind the soul. I posted a diagram for you. What more could I do??

I've learned from those who know, I don't know who YOU have learned from. Maybe the Holy Spirit.

You say I've learned from men...what are you? A man..and yet you have your very own ideas. I'll learn from theologians.

Are they not men?

I was talking about UNDERSTANDING.

Knowledge is great....but not of much use to you without Understanding.

What do you think 1 Corinthians 2:14 is talking about??

The same as I was saying to you....
Understanding comes from God.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[GodsGrace]

Those claims are fallacies.

Read post no. 2252
And it's not the first time I've heard this.

 

[APAK]

Here's my situation:
I've been married a really long time.
Got married when I was really young.
Everything worked out great.
Two kids, great. Both married.
5 grandchildren.

I don't even smoke, let alone do heroine. It was just an extreme example.

You say things that don't sound like mainline Christianity. I'm not saying you're not Christian or anything like that,,,just that you speak a different language than I do. Many times it's the language that creates a problem understanding a person.

I understand a bit more....well I do admit when I am speaking about my spiritual condition it seems unhelpful to you. I also see some of your words a little ambiguous or defensive in nature on this subject, and therefore I do not know how to speak about being saved to you....maybe, eventually some one here or myself will spill out words that give you a 'eureka' moment.

God Bless,

APAK

 

[Taken]

Read post no. 2252
And it's not the first time I've heard this.

Point being...we hear many things...It is up to us to GO and verify with Gods Word.

You are promoting receiving salvation, then Losing your salvation...

Read 1 Pet 1 Verses 1- 5

Pay close attention to V 5

 

[GodsGrace]

Who are these people, I'll set them straight.

Well, we have some here who say they never sin,
And we have those who say we could not lose our salvation even if we return to a life of sin.
Neither is true.

 

[GodsGrace]

I understand a bit more....well I do admit when I am speaking about my spiritual condition it seems unhelpful to you. I also see some of your words a little ambiguous or defensive in nature on this subject, and therefore I do not know how to speak about being saved to you....maybe, eventually some one here or myself will spill out words that give you a 'eureka' moment.

God Bless,

APAK

LOL
This is too sweet!!
My eureka moment was about forty years ago.

 

[Taken]

Well, we have some here who say they never sin,
And we have those who say we could not lose our salvation even if we return to a life of sin.
Neither is true.

Depending on the man ... Both are true.

I never sin. I was forgiven of the sin of being born in sin. I was forgiven of the sin of corrupting my soul. I was given the gift of a restored soul. I was givin the gift of a born again spirit from an uncorruptable seed.

Do you know what uncorruptable means?
It means the Seed I was born again from is WITHOUT corruption, without Sin.

A corrupt seed produces a corrupt thing.
A incorruptable Seed produces an incorruptable thing.

There is NOTHING whatsoever I CAN DO that would give me ANOTHER corruptable seed.

I do not MAINTAIN the Seed.
I do NOt MAINTAIN not being able to Sin...

GOD DOES.
There is NOTHING I can do that is SIN.

What is this mysterious "life of sin" you talk about?

Identify it. Particularly since you are promoting it. What is this sin you speak of?

 

[aspen]

Concerning 2 Corinthians 10:5;
Spirtual sanity, spiritual mind.
2 Timothy 1:7;
"For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love, and of self discipline."

This is how we take captive all our thoughts and put them in line with Jesus.

Where is the ‘how’ part?

 

[aspen]

Depending on the man ... Both are true.

I never sin. I was forgiven of the sin of being born in sin. I was forgiven of the sin of corrupting my soul. I was given the gift of a restored soul. I was givin the gift of a born again spirit from an uncorruptable seed.

Do you know what uncorruptable means?
It means the Seed I was born again from is WITHOUT corruption, without Sin.

A corrupt seed produces a corrupt thing.
A incorruptable Seed produces an incorruptable thing.

There is NOTHING whatsoever I CAN DO that would give me ANOTHER corruptable seed.

I do not MAINTAIN the Seed.
I do NOt MAINTAIN not being able to Sin...

GOD DOES.
There is NOTHING I can do that is SIN.

What is this mysterious "life of sin" you talk about?

Identify it. Particularly since you are promoting it. What is this sin you speak of?

Being without sin is impossible in this life time because it is impossible to love perfectly on earth all the time. I am sure we can love perfectly a times, but not every minute. Paul, who loved more perfectly than myself, admitted that not even he was able to consistently love perfectly, even though he knew better.

 

[GodsGrace]

Depending on the man ... Both are true.

I never sin. I was forgiven of the sin of being born in sin. I was forgiven of the sin of corrupting my soul. I was given the gift of a restored soul. I was givin the gift of a born again spirit from an uncorruptable seed.

Do you know what uncorruptable means?
It means the Seed I was born again from is WITHOUT corruption, without Sin.

A corrupt seed produces a corrupt thing.
A incorruptable Seed produces an incorruptable thing.

There is NOTHING whatsoever I CAN DO that would give me ANOTHER corruptable seed.

I do not MAINTAIN the Seed.
I do NOt MAINTAIN not being able to Sin...

GOD DOES.
There is NOTHING I can do that is SIN.

What is this mysterious "life of sin" you talk about?

Identify it. Particularly since you are promoting it. What is this sin you speak of?

If you read the scriptures you're quoting, you'll find that they are referring to you after you die, not now.
Right now you are corruptible.
On a mobile, sorry I can't do better right now.

 

[GodsGrace]

Being without sin is impossible in this life time because it is impossible to love perfectly on earth all the time. I am sure we can love perfectly a times, but not every minute. Paul, who loved more perfectly than myself, admitted that not even he was able to consistently love perfectly, even though he knew better.

Right.
Paul also said that HE was afraid of not making it to heaven!
1 Corinthians 9:27.

THE prize , not a prize,,,,,The prize is heaven.

 

[Heb 13:8]

Right.
Paul also said that HE was afraid of not making it to heaven!
1 Corinthians 9:27.

THE prize , not a prize,,,,,The prize is heaven.

Is about the 5 crowns that believers receive or not receive in heaven. 1 Cor 9:25.

 

[GodsGrace]

Is about the 5 crowns that believers receive or not receive in heaven. 1 Cor 9:25.

Yes, well, I knew you'd go here, which is why I mentioned that Paul spoke of THE prize, not one of the crowns.

 

[Heb 13:8]

Yes, well, I knew you'd go here, which is why I mentioned that Paul spoke of THE prize, not one of the crowns.

Read 1 Cor 9:24-27 in context.

 

[GodsGrace]

Read 1 Cor 9:24-27 in context.

Tomorrow.

 

[Taken]

Being without sin is impossible

Here is where paying attention is important....

Who said "without sin" ?

You are replying to me, and commenting on something I did not say.

 

[Taken]

If you read the scriptures you're quoting, you'll find that they are referring to you after you die, not now.
Right now you are corruptible.
On a mobile, sorry I can't do better right now.

You are referring to my body, according to carnal understanding.

Spiritual things are according to Gods Understanding.

What exactly IS God waiting for it to die?
My body...?

Already done...crucified with Christ.

 

[aspen]

Here is where paying attention is important....

Who said "without sin" ?

You are replying to me, and commenting on something I did not say.

I appear to be responding to your word game. Do you you commit sin or not?

 

[Taken]

On a mobile, sorry I can't do better right now.

No problem. I can relate, all of my posts are from my phone. Even the really really long ones...lol

God Bless,j
Taken