Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

[Truth7t7]

All take the mark
Every man, woman and child.
Rev 7
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Everyone refusing it dies.
Power is given the AC to overcome the saints.
The saints overcome the AC by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto the death.
IOW THEY ALL DIE FROM THEIR TESTIMONY.
Rev 12
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.



Rev13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

All dead.
The earth "cleansed" of believers.
Nobody to rapture.

Rev7
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

All dead. A billion nobody can count.
In heaven DURING the trib.



Your doctrine disagrees?

D

 

[brightfame52]

The point was that the "as one man" teachings in the scriptures, identifies "the man of sin" (revealed).

Yeah that stands, the Man of sin is unredeemed man and his religious philosophies that override the revelation of God as to how God saves sinners. Rev 13:8

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Remember when Eve had Cain the child of wicked one ? Notice what she called him Gen 4:1

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

Cain brought a offering that God rejected, he didnt bring it in Faith as Abel did. Scripture presents the way of cain as evil Jude 1:11

Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Cain was of the wicked one 1 Jn 3:12

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Man unredeemed, unregenerated is the Man of sin !

 

[rwb]

Christ came in 70AD the same way the Lord came in the verse below, not physically but symbolically in judgement

Isiaah 19:1
A prophecy against Egypt: See, the Lord rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear.

The judgment depicted allegorically came to spiritually turn Egypt from idols to the true God. We know this because the Lord never literally rode on a swift cloud to bring judgment. There is no allegoric depiction of that which came literally to Israel of Old. The judgment of God came physically upon the nation of Old to bring it to an utter ruin. That's why you cannot argue the Lord came spiritually to judge the nation of Old in the same way the Lord was often allegorically or spiritually spoken of as having come or coming to judge nations of Old.

To summarize, the Old Testament prophets often allegorically describe nations under God's judgment as symbols of the world's moral and spiritual corruption. The Old allegorically describe Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, Moab, Damacus, Gaza, Philistia, Sidon, Tyre, Ammon, Kedar, and Hazor as nations under God's coming judgment before the advent of Christ.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You just don't follow Christ's words or those of His apostles do you...
But you do love a book of disjointed visions, which must be interpreted by God to a person...

Visions are like parables, which are a mystery.

Matthew 13
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I [b]should heal them.’

Ok. We see your insults and disdain for me personally.

Now try "concept vs concept"
I forgive your little weaponizing of Gods word for some voo doo curse you are conjuring up against the brethren.
Now get you some Jesus time, swallow all that hurt and let's go.
Let's see what you can come up with BIBLICALLY.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yeah that stands, the Man of sin is unredeemed man and his religious philosophies that override the revelation of God as to how God saves sinners. Rev 13:8

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Remember when Eve had Cain the child of wicked one ? Notice what she called him Gen 4:1

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

Cain brought a offering that God rejected, he didnt bring it in Faith as Abel did. Scripture presents the way of cain as evil Jude 1:11

Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Cain was of the wicked one 1 Jn 3:12

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Man unredeemed, unregenerated is the Man of sin !

Nope.
The bible is explicit against that error.

Way way off

 

[rebuilder 454]

You just don't follow Christ's words or those of His apostles do you...
But you do love a book of disjointed visions, which must be interpreted by God to a person...

Visions are like parables, which are a mystery.

Matthew 13
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I [b]should heal them.’

You still can not answer if rev 19 is the second coming.
So many sentences.
You seem to tell us you don't know, but instead use 3 or 4 unrelated paragraphs to say it.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Some general comeback???
You can not unpack it so you threw spitballs at it.

You got nuked, and can not debate me.

...and can not stay on topic.

 

[The Light]

• Show us any Scripture that teaches there is a "one-year wrath of God"?

Isaiah 34
8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

Your turn.

Who are the foolish virgins?

 

[brightfame52]

Nope.
The bible is explicit against that error.

Way way off

Im spot on.

 

[ScottA]

Nope.
The bible is explicit against that error.

Way way off

Most who believe that to be error add in something that is not in the scriptures, something of the misinterpretations and teachings of men.