It seems to me that at some point the 6th seal involves the 7th trumpet.
How could it David? The seventh trumpet is in the 7th seal. The 6th seal is complete before the 7th seal is opened, so it is totally impossible for the 6th seal to have anything to do with the 7th trumpet.
The reason this get taught is because many find it necessary to use a sledgehammer to beat everything into place because they lack understanding. If they would only apply logic and simple math.......7 comes after 6, they would shed this idea and find out what is really happening.
Therefore, problem solved since Jesus has to return during the sounding of a trumpet
There is no problem to solve. Jesus returns at the last trump which blown on the Feast of Trumpets. This occurs at the 6th seal. There is a harvest before the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins. We get another view of the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal for a harvest in Rev 14.
Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Which also proves that trumpet 1 does not follow sometime later after the 6th seal. How can it if the 6th seal involves the 7th trumpet?
That's just it. You are using something that is totally impossible........the sixth seal involves the 7th trumpet.........and are using that for a proof which is incorrect and not logical. Nor does is follow simple mathematical rules.
The 6th seal has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the 7th trumpet.
IOW, the trumpet judgments take place during the seals rather than 7 seals first followed by 7 trumpets.
Can't happen David. When the 7th seal is opened the 7th trumpets and 7 bowls occur.
The 6th seal alone proves it since it has to be involving the 7th trumpet at some point in order for Jesus to return during it, where you already agree that He does.
Jesus returns at the 6th seal for a harvest prior to the wrath of God. Believers are NOT appointed to wrath. He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. ALL RETURN TO HEAVEN for the marriage supper. That is why there is a great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7, some of whom come out of great tribulation. Believers are in heaven during the 7th seal wrath of God. At the end of wrath, 7th trumpet / 7th bowl Jesus returns with the armies of heaven for Armageddon. This is the day of the Lord.
Look at Revelation 11 again. It is during the 7th trumpet when He returns. It is during the 7th trumpet when His wrath begins. The 6th seal and the 7th trumpet both have His wrath in common. That's not a coincidence.
WRATH IS OVER WHEN THE 7TH TRUMPET SOUNDS.
The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The great tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble. This is when the Jews are hunted and killed. The Church is already in heaven before the seals are opened. The Lord comes at the 6th seal for a harvest prior to the wrath of God as believers are not appointed to wrath. At the end of wrath, the armies of heaven come for Armageddon. The is the day of the Lord. When the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord.
Armageddon is over and that's the end of wrath. The bowls have already occurred.
You need to understand the difference between the great tribulation and the wrath of God.
