mailmandan
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It's to be expected when you have genuine Christians and "nominal" Christians/genuine believers and make believers mixed together on this board.
OSAS Can Sin all you Want
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Michiah-Imla
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“…be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.” (2 Peter 3:14)
“…go ye and learn what that meaneth” (Matthew 9:13)
“…be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.” (2 Peter 3:14)
“…go ye and learn what that meaneth” (Matthew 9:13)
Matthew 9:11-13 KJV
11) And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12) But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Much love!
11) And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
12) But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Much love!
The first church bride was assuredly spotless and blameless, consisting of virgins. Revelation 7, it has to be pure and holy and blameless, it was the first fruits of the bride of Christ, the first ones to get to believe in Him who suffered severe persecution and where waiting for Yeshua to come back to save them from the wrath that was gonna be fall the nation of Israel.
Today in this life individuals subjectively live their life between them and God, and they either sow to the flesh or sow to the spirit a choice totally up to you.
And it’s good to be honest with not only our own selves of not being better than any other person, but to be honest with God in this matter because the end Goal is going to be with God.
While your hear on earth you will learn to grow in the spirit from being a child into a son or daughter of God if you choose to put in the time and effort dying to oneself and living for God and having love for God and your fellow man.
It’s not about point out the sins and mistakes people do because we all do them, unless your are having a mature discussion a topic that is different when you are trying to learn and grow is called teaching, and studying and learning.
All of us sin, and the flesh will never stop singing, you have a choice though to either abide in your own strength or abiding in the strength of Christ who leads you to having victory over your flesh but that doesn’t mean you can not fail again or your impenetrable.
Today in this life individuals subjectively live their life between them and God, and they either sow to the flesh or sow to the spirit a choice totally up to you.
And it’s good to be honest with not only our own selves of not being better than any other person, but to be honest with God in this matter because the end Goal is going to be with God.
While your hear on earth you will learn to grow in the spirit from being a child into a son or daughter of God if you choose to put in the time and effort dying to oneself and living for God and having love for God and your fellow man.
It’s not about point out the sins and mistakes people do because we all do them, unless your are having a mature discussion a topic that is different when you are trying to learn and grow is called teaching, and studying and learning.
All of us sin, and the flesh will never stop singing, you have a choice though to either abide in your own strength or abiding in the strength of Christ who leads you to having victory over your flesh but that doesn’t mean you can not fail again or your impenetrable.
mailmandan
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Just another way of saying non-genuine believers. I like the ring it has to it. ;)
Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to the Board.
Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!
GRACE And Peace...
Thank you. And I hope the same for you and yours, precious friend.
Already done that. I gave you two of your own words that contradict one another.
Go back and try again if you like.
There wouldn't be any such arguments in the body of Christ, if everyone seeking to teach His doctrine of righteousness, just do so without also teaching about sin natures and still sinning of the devil while saved by grace.
Eternal salvation is only for them that are obeying Him and not the devil. Simple.
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The church is pure and spotless and blameless, and is consisting of virgins that are not defiling their souls with sinning for another husband, the devil.
You sinners certainly are not by your own confession and separating yourselves from the pure in heart.
And teaching the church and body of Christ as being opposed to a 'first' church, is just excuse for not being as that purified church and body at any time.
The rest of your stuff is christian humanism of trying to doing more good than evil, and having fellowshipping with Jesus more while sinning with the devil less.
Which of course is not the pure holy harmless undefiled church and body of Christ, whether first or last or at present.
All of you are sinners, as you so loudly proclaim. Not me. Nor Jesus, nor any of His flesh and bones on earth.
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Michiah-Imla
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“Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.” (Romans 6:12)
But many remain obedient to sin.
“…the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience” (Ephesians 2:2)
But many remain obedient to sin.
“…the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience” (Ephesians 2:2)
Whatever one does with their own life is between them and God, from the way I see it Robert.
Maybe I am wrong but I don’t really care much for race; whether people are white or black or yellow, I don’t care about much of a person stance perhaps they are a lesbian who is disabled and in a wheel chair. I don’t care what political party a person is from, I don’t care if a person does whatever they do because that is what they personally choose to do. I also don’t care hold old a person is, or if a person is mentality handicapped or not.
Think about Jesus he was called a glutton and a wine-bibber he went to parties.
Where was his Will though? To put God and his will first before his own though he got to live a little while on the earth even had to do work.
It’s all a choice like Adam and Eve in the Garden.
To think as one is higher and above others because they don’t see themselves as having some sort of fault that misses the mark. And it is the reason why the need Jesus is the first place, is a wrong approach to the faith, (in my opinion which many people may not like).
It’s between you and God though assuredly…
Maybe I am wrong but I don’t really care much for race; whether people are white or black or yellow, I don’t care about much of a person stance perhaps they are a lesbian who is disabled and in a wheel chair. I don’t care what political party a person is from, I don’t care if a person does whatever they do because that is what they personally choose to do. I also don’t care hold old a person is, or if a person is mentality handicapped or not.
- It’s part of our identity in Christ to have patience and kindness towards all people even praying for them all.
Think about Jesus he was called a glutton and a wine-bibber he went to parties.
Where was his Will though? To put God and his will first before his own though he got to live a little while on the earth even had to do work.
- Sin has been paid for mate.
It’s all a choice like Adam and Eve in the Garden.
To think as one is higher and above others because they don’t see themselves as having some sort of fault that misses the mark. And it is the reason why the need Jesus is the first place, is a wrong approach to the faith, (in my opinion which many people may not like).
It’s between you and God though assuredly…
- I am not your judge nor never would want to be… the identity I would like to be know for is my identity in Christ above all else, and my care for Jesus and what he has done for the world. Placing God first above all things and having love for my neighbors.
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Michiah-Imla
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You are very mistaken believing that sin committed after receiving knowledge of the truth is paid for. Gravely mistaken.
Romans 11:22
2 Peter 2:20
Hebrews 10:26-27
Michiah-Imla
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“…behold, ye are risen up in your fathers' stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of the LORD...” (Numbers 32:14)
“…it is a stiffnecked people: Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them...” (Exodus 32:9-10)
Neither do I. I just don't preach it for righteousness to mix being a lesbian and being handicapped.
Humanist amorality for doctrine of Christ is sickening.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Can a lesbian be a lesbian and a Christian if they have struggling problems with that type of lifestyle, or are they just cut off from God himself, and look as an abomination?
What about a former Child molester? Who is in prison, who finds Christ? Does their former Child molester identify matter if they have found Christ but perhaps still struggle with that type of twisted thinking in their mind?
Or Can only God judge?
What about a former Child molester? Who is in prison, who finds Christ? Does their former Child molester identify matter if they have found Christ but perhaps still struggle with that type of twisted thinking in their mind?
Or Can only God judge?
Michiah-Imla
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He shouldn’t be struggling with that type of thinking any longer. He must observe these things:
“…gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conduct” (1 Peter 1:13-15)
God forbid we have any struggles at all.
Wouldn’t you consider Paul praying three times about a problem a struggle? The Lord said to him his grace is sufficient in his weakness, that he may find strength in Him.
Are we to all have perfect non-struggling lives when we come to Christ and it is all happy go lucky? @Michiah-Imla. I just find that rather so unbiblical.
Wouldn’t you consider Paul praying three times about a problem a struggle? The Lord said to him his grace is sufficient in his weakness, that he may find strength in Him.
Are we to all have perfect non-struggling lives when we come to Christ and it is all happy go lucky? @Michiah-Imla. I just find that rather so unbiblical.
