OSAS Teaches not Obeying Scripture

[robert derrick]

Question: if the letters of the law of Christ are dead, and not to be obeyed, then what Scriptures do we obey? Any? None?

Review: Unrighteous christian sinners are declaring that the letters of the law of Christ are now killed on the cross and are dead, There is no written law of Christ to do and obey in Scripture.

Once again I find myself having to argue the common sense obvious, in the face of those who would rather lose their intelligence than their sins.

And so, here goes: what are the letters of the law, and where are they found? Scripture.

I really do not like having to do this, and so bear with me please, but listen up OSAS class and copy this down one word at a time:

"Scripture is the written letters of Jesus's law, word, rule, doctrine, and most importantly gospel."

Proof:

The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

So, exactly how would we even know the letters of the law of Christ to avoid obeying, if not for the letters written in Scripture? (Is it also a sin to be doing the letters of the law ignorantly and not willfully on purpose? Is that the sins of ignorance OSAS talks about?)

If the letters of the law are declared dead, then so of course must all the letters of Scripture, since Scripture says to break one letter is to break all.

And so, if we are not to obey the letters of the law of Christ, then we are also forbidden to obey any Scripture as written: no letters of His word, nor doctrine, nor gospel, nor even epistles, which are letters written to the churches.

It is no small wonder that them who preach against Scripture and the letters written therein, as being dead and to be avoided at all costs, also so freely and willingly twist, mangle, or ignore every Scripture possible, that does not agree with their own personal faith.

Afterall, their just letters on paper. What is that compared to the words proceeding from their god's mouth, that they know is written in their own unclean sinful hearts?

Neither God is dead, nor His law: Modern OSAS is christianity for old unrepented free-sex hippies, who even worse, are raising up their own unrepented free-sin christians.

 

[Bob Estey]

Question: if the letters of the law of Christ are dead, and not to be obeyed, then what Scriptures do we obey? Any? None?

Review: Unrighteous christian sinners are declaring that the letters of the law of Christ are now killed on the cross and are dead, There is no written law of Christ to do and obey in Scripture.

Once again I find myself having to argue the common sense obvious, in the face of those who would rather lose their intelligence than their sins.

And so, here goes: what are the letters of the law, and where are they found? Scripture.

I really do not like having to do this, and so bear with me please, but listen up OSAS class and copy this down one word at a time:

"Scripture is the written letters of Jesus's law, word, rule, doctrine, and most importantly gospel."

Proof:

The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

So, exactly how would we even know the letters of the law of Christ to avoid obeying, if not for the letters written in Scripture? (Is it also a sin to be doing the letters of the law ignorantly and not willfully on purpose? Is that the sins of ignorance OSAS talks about?)

If the letters of the law are declared dead, then so of course must all the letters of Scripture, since Scripture says to break one letter is to break all.

And so, if we are not to obey the letters of the law of Christ, then we are also forbidden to obey any Scripture as written: no letters of His word, nor doctrine, nor gospel, nor even epistles, which are letters written to the churches.

It is no small wonder that them who preach against Scripture and the letters written therein, as being dead and to be avoided at all costs, also so freely and willingly twist, mangle, or ignore every Scripture possible, that does not agree with their own personal faith.

Afterall, their just letters on paper. What is that compared to the words proceeding from their god's mouth, that they know is written in their own unclean sinful hearts?

Neither God is dead, nor His law: Modern OSAS is christianity for old unrepented free-sex hippies, who even worse, are raising up their own unrepented free-sin christians.

It seems best to me if we obey Jesus. Isn't he the boss? Doesn't he know what's best for us?

 

[GEN2REV]

It seems best to me if we obey Jesus. Isn't he the boss? Doesn't he know what's best for us?

You don't know what you believe, do you, Bob?

You post this right about the time you post on another thread that you believe it's perfectly ok to disobey God.

I'm not convinced you're even sober when you post here. Your opinions and positions are all over the map.

 

[Bob Estey]

You don't know what you believe, do you, Bob?

You post this right about the time you post on another thread that you believe it's perfectly ok to disobey God.

I'm not convinced you're even sober when you post here. Your opinions and positions are all over the map.

I know very well what I believe. The Lord led me to repent of sin I was committing, and my life was transformed.

 

[GEN2REV]

I know very well what I believe. The Lord led me to repent of sin I was committing, and my life was transformed.

But you don't believe in the 10 Commandments which Jesus DID believe ...
John 15:10
... and He taught ...
Matthew 23:1-3
... and we are to obey.
1 John 2:6

If you believe otherwise, you are in wrong-standing with Scripture and with God.

 

[Bob Estey]

But you don't believe in the 10 Commandments which Jesus DID believe ...
John 15:10
... and He taught ...
Matthew 23:1-3
... and we are to obey.
1 John 2:6

If you believe otherwise, you are in wrong-standing with Scripture and with God.

Indeed, I DO believe in the Ten Commandments.

 

[GEN2REV]

Indeed, I DO believe in the Ten Commandments.

You just don't believe in obeying them.

 

[Bob Estey]

You just don't believe in obeying them.

Just the opposite. It is in obeying the Lord's commandments (and I would include the two great ones Jesus told us about) that keeps us out of trouble and gives us peace (Matthew 4:17).

 

[GEN2REV]

Just the opposite. It is in obeying the Lord's commandments (and I would include the two great ones Jesus told us about) that keeps us out of trouble and gives us peace (Matthew 4:17).

Just not the 4th Commandment, like you posted here an hour ago.

I believe it is perfectly acceptable to God [not to keep the Sabbath].

 

[ScottA]

Question: if the letters of the law of Christ are dead, and not to be obeyed, then what Scriptures do we obey? Any? None?

Review: Unrighteous christian sinners are declaring that the letters of the law of Christ are now killed on the cross and are dead, There is no written law of Christ to do and obey in Scripture.

Once again I find myself having to argue the common sense obvious, in the face of those who would rather lose their intelligence than their sins.

And so, here goes: what are the letters of the law, and where are they found? Scripture.

I really do not like having to do this, and so bear with me please, but listen up OSAS class and copy this down one word at a time:

"Scripture is the written letters of Jesus's law, word, rule, doctrine, and most importantly gospel."

Proof:

The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

So, exactly how would we even know the letters of the law of Christ to avoid obeying, if not for the letters written in Scripture? (Is it also a sin to be doing the letters of the law ignorantly and not willfully on purpose? Is that the sins of ignorance OSAS talks about?)

If the letters of the law are declared dead, then so of course must all the letters of Scripture, since Scripture says to break one letter is to break all.

And so, if we are not to obey the letters of the law of Christ, then we are also forbidden to obey any Scripture as written: no letters of His word, nor doctrine, nor gospel, nor even epistles, which are letters written to the churches.

It is no small wonder that them who preach against Scripture and the letters written therein, as being dead and to be avoided at all costs, also so freely and willingly twist, mangle, or ignore every Scripture possible, that does not agree with their own personal faith.

Afterall, their just letters on paper. What is that compared to the words proceeding from their god's mouth, that they know is written in their own unclean sinful hearts?

Neither God is dead, nor His law: Modern OSAS is christianity for old unrepented free-sex hippies, who even worse, are raising up their own unrepented free-sin christians.

You have come to the End, and do not believe He is the End of sin. Such is not any adherence to the law of Christ, but rather to have heard the truth and rejected it. To do so, is to rob from Christ. Rather than "to live is Christ" you advocate that "to live is me", the abomination that makes desolation.

That is not even salvation. Which is not to say it won't come--it's just that it won't come until you believe all of what is written, or until you die of natural causes. Which comes with the stipulation and strong rebuke from Christ that such will be "cut in two", only to know the flesh in the flesh, and only afterward to know the spirit in the Spirit.

 

[Bob Estey]

Just not the 4th Commandment, like you posted here an hour ago.

I think it's important to get a day's rest each week. I don't think it has to be on a particular day, though. Jesus taught us that the sabbath was made for us - not the other way around.

 

[GEN2REV]

I think it's important to get a day's rest each week. I don't think it has to be on a particular day, though. Jesus taught us that the sabbath was made for us - not the other way around.

The Sabbath IS a particular day - by its very definition. It is THE Sabbath, not A day of rest - of your choice.

Show anywhere in Scripture where there is any implication that THE Sabbath is to be A day of rest of your choosing.

And Jesus obeyed THE Sabbath as THE 7th Day of the Week; the Saturday.

And He taught that as well.

Does the Commandment say to choose one day out of the week and use it to rest-up?

NO. It says to remember THE Sabbath Day (a very particular day) and to keep it holy.

Does choosing one day a week to rest keep a particular day holy to the Lord?

Absolutely not.

You, like the majority of other professed christians, are claiming to be a Christian and living how YOU choose to live while stating that YOU believe God is ok with it.

Matthew 7:21-23

 

[Bob Estey]

The Sabbath IS a particular day - by its very definition. It is THE Sabbath, not A day of rest - of your choice.

Show anywhere in Scripture where there is any implication that THE Sabbath is to be A day of rest of your choosing.

And Jesus obeyed THE Sabbath as THE 7th Day of the Week; the Saturday.

And He taught that as well.

Does the Commandment say to choose one day out of the week and use it to rest-up?

NO. It says to remember THE Sabbath Day (a very particular day) and to keep it holy.

Does choosing one day a week to rest keep a particular day holy to the Lord?

Absolutely not.

You, like the majority of other professed christians, are claiming to be a Christian and living how YOU choose to live while stating that YOU believe God is ok with it.

Matthew 7:21-23

Pastors work hard on the sabbath - they usually take the next day off.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Neither God is dead, nor His law: Modern OSAS is christianity for old unrepented free-sex hippies, who even worse, are raising up their own unrepented free-sin christians.

Once again you create lies to promote your demonic doctrine that the blood of Jesus is not enough! OSAS does not teach the law of Christ is dead. On the contrary we teach that it is what is valid today! Stop lying about your brethren!

 

[robert derrick]

You have come to the End, and do not believe He is the End of sin. Such is not any adherence to the law of Christ, but rather to have heard the truth and rejected it. To do so, is to rob from Christ. Rather than "to live is Christ" you advocate that "to live is me", the abomination that makes desolation.

That is not even salvation. Which is not to say it won't come--it's just that it won't come until you believe all of what is written, or until you die of natural causes. Which comes with the stipulation and strong rebuke from Christ that such will be "cut in two", only to know the flesh in the flesh, and only afterward to know the spirit in the Spirit.

As I've said. You've got a great intellect, it just isn't working right in trying to defend OSAS. Neither are you one to attack the righteous as being all self-righteous boasters.

I'll copy and paste this stuff with you other stuff, and try to figure out all it's mystical mystery, and get it back to you unraveled in the future.

But for now, them that say the letters of the law of Christ are dead, are saying that the letters of Scripture are dead.

And so, it is no mystery why unrighteous christians sinners twist, take away from, add, and ignore altogether any Scripture they want, in order to justify themselves in their sinning by grace.

After all, there just dead letters on paper anyway.

Right?

 

[robert derrick]

Once again you create lies to promote your demonic doctrine that the blood of Jesus is not enough!

Thank you. When stripped of all your flowery celebratory grace words, you see how OSAS is demonic doctrine that teaches the blood of the Lamb is not enough, because it doesn't wash away the law also.

What you don't understand is all the lies you've been teaching for however many years, because you don't recognize it, when you see if face to face as it really is. Even you call it demonic now.

OSAS does not teach the law of Christ is dead.

If the letter is dead and not to be obeyed, then so is the law: the law is written in letters.

OSAS does not teach the law of Christ is dead. On the contrary we teach that it is what is valid today! Stop lying about your brethren!

I'm not lying about my brethren nor about OSAS.

Unrighteous christians sinners are not my brethren, nor are they the righteous flesh and bones of Jesus on earth today.

OSAS teaches the letter of the law is not to be obeyed, and so the law of Christ is dead and not to be obeyed.

Repent of your sinning, preach doing His righteousness, stop attacking the righteous as being boastful self-righteous, and then we can minister His righteous grace one to another.

Until then, neither the law of Christ nor His letters are dead, and they who do not His law to the letter with a pure heart are dead, and are not washed in the blood of the Lamb of God, but only cover themselves with the blood of another lamb:

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

 

[GEN2REV]

Pastors work hard on the sabbath - they usually take the next day off.

Many SDA pastors work Sun-Fri and then preach on the Saturday Sabbath.

Just as Christians, Paul and Barnabas, did in the New Testament. They weren't SDA's, and Jesus had long since passed, just in case you missed that. ;)

 

[ScottA]

As I've said. You've got a great intellect, it just isn't working right in trying to defend OSAS. Neither are you one to attack the righteous as being all self-righteous boasters.

I'll copy and paste this stuff with you other stuff, and try to figure out all it's mystical mystery, and get it back to you unraveled in the future.

But for now, them that say the letters of the law of Christ are dead, are saying that the letters of Scripture are dead.

And so, it is no mystery why unrighteous christians sinners twist, take away from, add, and ignore altogether any Scripture they want, in order to justify themselves in their sinning by grace.

After all, there just dead letters on paper anyway.

Right?

Did I attack Christ (the righteous)? No, but who did by attacking those in whom Christ now lives? That is your position, not mine.

Likewise, did I say that the law of Christ is dead, or the scriptures? No, but who did by attacking those in whom Christ now lives?

And how is it that you think or believe that Christ is with those who offend even one of these little ones?

The post is in your own eye. But I have explained already--that the End is Christ, not the flesh, and this you do not seem to understand.

 

[robert derrick]

Did I attack Christ (the righteous)? No, but who did by attacking those in whom Christ now lives? That is your position, not mine.

Likewise, did I say that the law of Christ is dead, or the scriptures? No, but who did by attacking those in whom Christ now lives?

And how is it that you think or believe that Christ is with those who offend even one of these little ones?

The post is in your own eye. But I have explained already--that the End is Christ, not the flesh, and this you do not seem to understand.

1. unrighteous christian sinners are attacking anyone preaching righteousness and not sinning, as self-righteous boasters.

2. If you do not say the letter of the law is dead and not to be obeyed, then obviously the thread is not about you.

3. Unrighteous christian sinners are not in Christ, nor is Christ living in them.

4. Christ is not with anyone offended His little righteous ones, by calling them all a bunch of self-righteous Pharisees seeking justification by law.

5. The end of the law is Christ in the flesh, to do the righteous of the law with a pure heart to the letter, That remains the same today in His flesh and His bones.

And so, declare yourself:

Are you an unrighteous christian sinner, or a righteous Christian saint.

Do you believe anyone preaching doing His righteousness, and not sinning with the devil, is a self-righteous boaster?

 

[ScottA]

1. unrighteous christian sinners are attacking anyone preaching righteousness and not sinning, as self-righteous boasters.

2. If you do not say the letter of the law is dead and not to be obeyed, then obviously the thread is not about you.

3. Unrighteous christian sinners are not in Christ, nor is Christ living in them.

4. Christ is not with anyone offended His little righteous ones, by calling them all a bunch of self-righteous Pharisees seeking justification by law.

5. The end of the law is Christ in the flesh, to do the righteous of the law with a pure heart to the letter, That remains the same today in His flesh and His bones.

And so, declare yourself:

Are you an unrighteous christian sinner, or a righteous Christian saint.

Do you believe anyone preaching doing His righteousness, and not sinning with the devil, is a self-righteous boaster?

I have answered and given correction already.

I am no longer answering you for your sake, but for those who might believe what you say that is false.

Again, the end of which the scriptures say we must endure to is Christ, "the End." After which there remains no condemnation--except from the accuser...and from those who work iniquity for lack of understanding. By moving the goalpost, you error on many levels.