Outer Darkness: a possible destiny for the saved

[Episkopos]

OK so there is no video for the OP. But there is an amazing amount of denial of plain scripture regarding the eternal destiny of being sent away into eternal darkness for those who are saved. As we know, there are 4 eternal destinies described repeatedly. Of course the prevailing religious opinion is that the saved will play harps on clouds and other such sunday school notions.

But the real need to fear the Lord has been obliterated in order to fill the pews. The gospel has been "defanged" as it were, to cause a whole lot of false assurance. And people love that. If you tell people the truth, they will turn away.

So let's look at what the bible clearly teaches concerning the eternal destiny of being cast into outer darkness.

Let's begin with Jude, the brother of Jesus...

Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Let's take just the first verse and break it down...



Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.


Interestingly, one of the eternal destinies recorded in Rev 22:11 as the words of Jesus claim , is "the filthy". This is a category for those who invent for themselves a lofty end whereby they parade themselves with no fear, and speak evil of those who are ahead of them and warn them.

 

[Episkopos]

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Here is another description of the behaviour and attitude of them that will be rejected by God into outer darkness. People who claim anything good sounding they read in the bible. Paul describes being seated in heavenly place in Christ....so these will claim to also be seated in Christ by a mere imagination to that effect. They will claim nice sounding verses for themselves while ignoring all the warnings and exhortations. And they will heap abuse on anyone who tries getting them to see things more realistically.

So people will speak evil of anything that upsets their smugness. And they will assume that nobody could possibly know more than they know...which is nothing.

So the gospel is corrupted this way by the flesh. People, rather than go through the front door of approval from God, climb in every which way and pretend to belong.

 

[Episkopos]

Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

The modern church is full of Cains. Unless the doctrines that are taught promise life to every person, there arise jealousies and rivalries. So the organizers of the church forbid ANY distinction between saints and believers....between those who are spiritual and those who are not...in order to "keep the peace" and not wake up the spirit of Cain that comprises maybe half the church.

Mercenary pastors charge money to keep the people interested in the bible and some aspects of God...all based on a career in religion.

And the rebellious attitude of Korah was that they were just as spiritual as the ones whom God has established as His ministers. So there is a kind of pirate rule among these whereby the pride of every man must be taken into account.

 

[Episkopos]

These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

There can be no doubt that these filthy dreamers are among us. They have no fear of God at all....because they have been told by pulpiteers that there is nothing to fear. Following any wind of doctrine that suits them, they make grandiose statements without any evidence at all....based entirely on religious hubris.



Twice dead....??? It means they were regenerated into an initial grace and had experienced a sample of what grace provided...they were headed for life...but were spoiled through vain philosophy and preferred readings of the bible. Their potential was eradicated because they didn't receive the truth with humility, so they went after lies and deceit.

 

[Jay Ross]

Outer darkness a possible destiny for the saved.

This outcome of the Second Death is only for those who have turned away from and/or rejected God's Salavation for them.

 

[Episkopos]

Outer darkness a possible destiny for the saved.

This outcome of the Second Death is only for those who have turned away from and/or rejected God's Salavation for them.

If that's the case why do are they at the love feasts? Why are they tossed by every wind of doctrine. It's a ploy to make every case of rejection due to a conscious decision to fall away.

 

[Jay Ross]

If that's the case why do are they at the love feasts? Why are they tossed by every wind of doctrine. It's a ploy to make every case of rejection due to a conscious decision to fall away.

It is a conscious decision that we make when we sin. Becoming a candidate for the second death because we sin against God or simply turn away from Him is an automatic consequence which is based upon our choices against God and His love for us.

 

[Episkopos]

It is a conscious decision that we make when we sin. Becoming a candidate for the second death because we sin against God or simply turn away from Him is an automatic consequence which is based upon our choices against God and His love for us.

The text says twice dead...meaning the person was regenerated and is now either asleep or dead spiritually based on a departure, not in the mind, but in the heart.

 

[shepherdsword]

The scary thing is that the unprofitable servant WAS actually a servant of the King and also feared. Hard to pass that off as an unbeliever.