Pastor Gino Jennings part 2

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Fred J

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2023
1,815
414
83
59
W.P.
Faith
Christian
Country
Malaysia
Brethren,

This pastor in one of his message mentioned about John 1:1 and interpreted it differently.

John 1:
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the Word was God.


He said that the Word was FATHER GOD's very word from HIS mouth.

And as in vs. 14, he said the very Word of HIS 'manifested' as flesh in Mary's womb and was named Jesus.

Since sort of, Jesus also claimed that the word that comes out of His mouth is the FATHER''s.

To top it off, he said that no one came down from Heaven and Jesus was not the Word.

What do you reckon in the spirit about that, isn't something amiss here?
 

Debp

Mod - Encounter Team
Staff member
Encounter Team
Jul 5, 2020
14,599
17,388
113
California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Gino Jennings has heretical teachings. See videos in the following thread.

 

Fred J

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2023
1,815
414
83
59
W.P.
Faith
Christian
Country
Malaysia
Gino Jennings has heretical teachings. See videos in the following thread.

In this forum itself we had to respond back and foth with many false teachers provoking us repeatedly even though they were wrong.

Would appreciate admin likewise monitor our discussion and put to stop false teachers in our midst.

Or those who made mistakes scripturally, admit, and may carry on in discussion, since iron sharpens iron.

Since the gift of the Holy Ghost is divided among members of the church scripturally, therefore a believer alone have not all the answer to the truth.

On the other hand, yes, gentle and patience the respond should be, but also go by according to New Testament account.

From Jesus to the Apostles, they were gentle and patience, but there were times when pushed beyond, resulted to 'harsh' rebuke and correction.

On top of it, here it can get a bit out of hand in our responds at times, but we try our best to back off from those bullies who force their false through.

May GOD in Jesus name bless the Admin team and impart wisdom to their service bringing order, so that innocent lambs here will not led astray by false teachings.

Again thank you and shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.
 

pwg_jonathan

Member
Oct 6, 2026
100
98
28
26
San Leandro
www.pacewithgrace.org
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Interesting one, thanks for bringing it up. John 1:1 is a good test because the text itself says the Word was with God and the Word was God, so it holds two things together without collapsing them. Then verse 14 says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and Jesus kept talking to the Father as someone distinct, like in John 17:5 where He asks the Father to glorify Him with the glory He had before the world was. I'd be careful with any teaching that has to flatten one of those pieces to make the verse simpler. Reading the whole chapter in context usually answers more than any one preacher's take.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Debp

Fred J

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2023
1,815
414
83
59
W.P.
Faith
Christian
Country
Malaysia
Interesting one, thanks for bringing it up. John 1:1 is a good test because the text itself says the Word was with God and the Word was God, so it holds two things together without collapsing them. Then verse 14 says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and Jesus kept talking to the Father as someone distinct, like in John 17:5 where He asks the Father to glorify Him with the glory He had before the world was. I'd be careful with any teaching that has to flatten one of those pieces to make the verse simpler. Reading the whole chapter in context usually answers more than any one preacher's take.
Thank you, as per the New Covenant GOD gave and made then and until this present age, the New Testament is the foundation of the Apostles to us church. (Ephesians 2:20)

It's not like in the Old Testament, where GOD's lambs and sheep(Israelites), were under the authority of hired shepherds(leaders of Isreal).

They failed miserably in their duties shepherding HIS lambs and sheep, where GOD poured out HIS frustration and disgust to Prophet Ezekiel, as in the book of Ezekiel.

To bring a change and restoration, HE promised to make a New Covenant and HIMSELF will personally shepherd HIS lambs and sheep in the coming future.

And no longer HIS lambs and sheep HE gives and makes the New Covenant with, will come again under the authority of hired shepherd anymore.

There will be only among the lambs and sheep, elders who are shepherd by HIM thorough and perfect in the same foundation, who'll lead and minister HIS lambs and sheep.

An elder who'll minister the same all scripture and sound doctrine intact in that foundation, as a reminder and a stir up of memory to the lambs and sheep when they gather.

As a result we can witness this in the Gospel and coming to pass, where Jesus Lord and God, the Good Shepherd personally shepherds the Israelites, His lambs and sheep, forsaking the leaders of Israel.

Therefore similarly we are the lambs and sheep of today discipled in the same canonized foundation, and elders among us discipled thorough and perfect, shall lead and minster to us from.

Overall and most importantly, the lambs and sheep who're discipled likewise in the same foundation are to weigh the message ministered and the elder, to distinguish whether he's of the spirit of truth or spirit of error.

Therefore today, we discipled lambs and sheep in the same canonized foundation and in context the sound doctrine, wiegh the messages and elders as pastors or man of GOD to distinguish similarly.

Since Jesus remains as the Good Shepherd over all of us and we hear alone His voice, and to strangers' voice, we should 'flee', as so called elders have no authority over us.

Only the unlearned and unstable lambs and sheep become slaves to incompetent elders whom run the renown churches of today in 'lawlessness'.

In folly shortsighted, and ignorant that the gift of the Holy Ghost is divided among lambs and sheep to serve as members in one body.

The point is, no members in one body can claim authority or superiority over the others, when only the Head who is Christ and His every word rules and moves them all.

That's why Jesus discipled us lambs and sheep, let us know that we'll know them by their fruits, whether they'd be elders or members themselves among us.

Moreover, since the gift of the Holy Ghost is divided among members of the body, not one member as an elder have the full truth, but to a few that is divided to.

To conclude, pastor Gino J. or those who claim ordained elders of the churches today, have not the full truth to lead and minister solely a church.

Lambs and sheep who allow such incompetent elders to rule, being blind and ignorant themselves, together will end up on that day of the Lord, as workers of iniquity or lawlessness.

May this be a valuable lesson to us lambs and sheep here on earth itself and before asleep buried, who's voice are we going to listen to, and to who's voice we're to 'flee'??

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.
 

Fred J

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2023
1,815
414
83
59
W.P.
Faith
Christian
Country
Malaysia
Interesting one, thanks for bringing it up. John 1:1 is a good test because the text itself says the Word was with God and the Word was God, so it holds two things together without collapsing them. Then verse 14 says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and Jesus kept talking to the Father as someone distinct, like in John 17:5 where He asks the Father to glorify Him with the glory He had before the world was. I'd be careful with any teaching that has to flatten one of those pieces to make the verse simpler. Reading the whole chapter in context usually answers more than any one preacher's take.
You're right and blessed are you in Jesus name.

Based on the Gospel itself, we can witness for ourselves three distinctive individuals interacting at one time in action or words.

Matthew 3:
16. And when Jesus was baptized, He went up at once out of the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he[John] saw the Spirit of GOD descending like a dove and alighting on Him.
17. And behold, a voice from heaven said, This is MY Son, MY beloved, in Whom I delight!
 

Fred J

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2023
1,815
414
83
59
W.P.
Faith
Christian
Country
Malaysia
Brethren,

This pastor in one of his message mentioned about John 1:1 and interpreted it differently.

John 1:
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the Word was God.


He said that the Word was FATHER GOD's very word from HIS mouth.

And as in vs. 14, he said the very Word of HIS 'manifested' as flesh in Mary's womb and was named Jesus.

Since sort of, Jesus also claimed that the word that comes out of His mouth is the FATHER''s.

To top it off, he said that no one came down from Heaven and Jesus was not the Word.

What do you reckon in the spirit about that, isn't something amiss here?
Brethren,

Apparently, we perceive Apostle John in chapter 1, in the spirit reveal about the Son of GOD before and after.

In summary, from in the beginning who He was, and so on, and until He became flesh, and what He brought us.

For a pastor or a man of GOD to minster, if am not mistaken, that there are none nor a spirit ever came down from Heaven and became flesh.

And merely it's the word of GOD from HIS very mouth which manifest as flesh according to verse 14, and is so promising and true.

That is when we witness by the surface and appearence of things, in other words, to the out of context and appearence of the doctrine.

For example, if we were to debunk them quoting from chapter 1 onwards, that the Son of GOD came to the world He made they recognize Him not, and came to His own they welcome Him not?

They'll only respond back, that the word of GOD from HIS very mouth which manifest as flesh, came to this world which knew HIM not and to His own which welcome HIM not.

The same will their respond be, whether the verses before that, therefore aren't they apparently promising and true?

Yes, even am was dumbfounded for a moment until the Holy Ghost responded, besides me, such shall try to deceive even the very elect!

Nevertheless, we lambs and sheep worship the FATHER in spirit and truth, are able to distinguish between what is true based on out of context of the scripture and what is truth based on context of the scripture.

And the only respond the Holy Ghost debunks such a fallacy, is the quote from Paul's letter to the Corthians church that is the truth in context.

1 Corinthians 15:
47. The first man [was] from out of earth, made of dust (earthly-minded); the second Man ]is] the Lord from out of Hea
ven.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ