Pay to Pray eRosary from the Vatican

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epostle

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Hi @epostle ,

So then in essence, "It is finished" is meant to refer to the completion of the OT prophecies, is that what you are saying?

Rather than referring to to the completion of God's word of reconciliation?

Much love!
Yes, but the former is not to the exclusion of the latter.
 

marks

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Yes, but the former is not to the exclusion of the latter.
And then do you believe the latter also? That all that needed be done for man to be reconciled to God was done on the cross? And that all that needed be done for man to be reborn was completed in the resurrection? And that in these alone we now have unity with God and with each other, as a work of God's grace, through our faith?

Much love!
 

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And then do you believe the latter also? That all that needed be done for man to be reconciled to God was done on the cross? And that all that needed be done for man to be reborn was completed in the resurrection? And that in these alone we now have unity with God and with each other, as a work of God's grace, through our faith?

Much love!
Yes, yes, yes and yes. The rigid Calvinistic approach to "it is finished" is not supported by the numerous proof texts provided in post #417.
 
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epostle

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I would dare say not.
There are many apostolic churches that do not teach these same things.
Name one.
Although some people think that the Catholic Church is equivalent to the Latin or Roman rite, this is a misconception. The Roman rite is by far the largest and most widely diffused in the world, but the Catholic Church is composed of 23 distinct Churches or rites. According to the Annuario Pontificio, Eastern Catholics number about 16.3 million.

The Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches defines “rite” as follows:

“Rite is the liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary heritage, distinguished according to peoples’ culture and historical circumstances, that finds expression in each autonomous church’s way of living the faith.”

Therefore, “rite” concerns not only a Church’s liturgy, but also its theology, spirituality and law. In some cases it might also involve ethnicity and language. Because of this, many members of these rites prefer to speak about Churches rather than rites. Others say that “Church” refers to the people, and “rite” to their spiritual and cultural heritage and patrimony.

Not all of the 23 Churches have a distinct liturgy or differ only in the language used or in local traditions. Traditionally there are six major liturgical families: the Latin, Alexandrian, Antiochian, Armenian, Chaldean and Constantinopolitan (sometimes called Byzantine).
At the end of the day, they all teach the same thing. Different cultures are adapted without compromising the Gospel, "...so that all men may be saved."
 

epostle

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According to you, I've never even partaken the Lord's supper. Isn't that so?
Sounds second rate to me.
At Mass, all the common priesthood participates, with the priest as the primary celebrant. We are not spectators. You are welcome to attend, but cannot partake out of respect for our rules. Protestants have rules too. You must be in full communion with the CC to partake. You can't partake because you don't want to. Until God calls you to want to partake, you shouldn't. It gives the Church pain that you don't want to share our table, it's not her fault.
 

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At Mass, all the common priesthood participates, with the priest as the primary celebrant. We are not spectators. You are welcome to attend, but cannot partake out of respect for our rules. Protestants have rules too. You must be in full communion with the CC to partake. You can't partake because you don't want to. Until God calls you to want to partake, you shouldn't. It gives the Church pain that you don't want to share our table, it's not her fault.
I'm sorry you don't share in our table, as the universal church of Christ.
 

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And then do you believe the latter also? That all that needed be done for man to be reconciled to God was done on the cross? And that all that needed be done for man to be reborn was completed in the resurrection? And that in these alone we now have unity with God and with each other, as a work of God's grace, through our faith?

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

Then we're on the same page. And we need not dispute over these other things. At least in my book.

Much love!
 

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It's an interesting idea, not really different than an analogue rosary. Not my cup of tea, but whatever helps one set aside time and focus on God, is a good thing.