Please explain this.

[Lady Crosstalk]

Some persons are very bitter, and it comes through in their writing.
I, as yourself, am sorry about this.
She's even told me I'm ignorant.
Not a very friendly comment.

I am not "bitter" as you assume and imply--since it is quite clear about whom you are speaking from your third statement. You are ignorant--we all are--you would be wise to accept that about yourself. Do you have the Bible memorized? If so, are you word-perfect in that memorization? Since you seem to be one who touts yourself as a Bible teacher, perhaps it would be good to hear from Pastor J. Vernon McGee (departed now but who held an M. Div and a Th.D from Dallas Theological Seminary). I remember a broadcast of his where he declared (and he was elderly at the time), "I've been studying the Bible nearly all my life, but all I know is that I don't know anything." He would often cite, "Knowledge puffs up but love builds up."

I still believe your teaching of the necessity of maintaining salvation through good works to be seriously in error, denying God's effectual work of grace.

 

[bbyrd009]

You're saying that we do not get Christian theology from the Bible.

No Son of Man may die for another's sins
No one has ever gone up to heaven
There is only One Immortal
You and your sons will be here with me

ok, go for it

 

[stunnedbygrace]

its not that i dont believe all that, bc i dont know. Its that it amounts to testifying of yourself wadr

It is testifying of oneself...?
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears me and opens the door, I will come into him and eat with him and he with me.

I testify that this is true. I speak of what I have known. But Jesus testifies of it too, so...

 

[bbyrd009]

It is testifying of oneself...?

yes, isnt that apparent?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

yes, isnt that apparent?

No, it is not apparent to me.

 

[farouk]

I am not "bitter" as you assume and imply--since it is quite clear about whom you are speaking from your third statement. You are ignorant--we all are--you would be wise to accept that about yourself. Do you have the Bible memorized? If so, are you word-perfect in that memorization? Since you seem to be one who touts yourself as a Bible teacher, perhaps it would be good to hear from Pastor J. Vernon McGee (departed now but who held an M. Div and a Th.D from Dallas Theological Seminary). I remember a broadcast of his where he declared (and he was elderly at the time), "I've been studying the Bible nearly all my life, but all I know is that I don't know anything." He would often cite, "Knowledge puffs up but love builds up."

I still believe your teaching of the necessity of maintaining salvation through good works to be seriously in error, denying God's effectual work of grace.

It has to be all of grace.

"All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace has taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me."

Ephesians 1 & 2.

 

[bbyrd009]

It is testifying of oneself...?
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears me and opens the door, I will come into him and eat with him and he with me.

I testify that this is true. I speak of what I have known. But Jesus testifies of it too, so...

Jesus is testifying of a one, yes, but see you are now testifying to be that one, yes? So, are you ready for the cross-examination?

 

[bbyrd009]

No, it is not apparent to me.

ha well then ask someone you trust, or we could do a poll maybe, not sure how much more apparent "I am that guy" and "testifying of yourself" could be wadr. But then i recognize that i am evil, just like Jesus said!

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus is testifying of a one, yes, but see you are now testifying to be that one, yes? So, are you ready for the cross-examination?

^

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

It has to be all of grace.

"All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace has taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me."

Ephesians 1 & 2.

Thank you, farouk. That blessed me.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

ha well then ask someone you trust, or we could do a poll maybe, not sure how much more apparent "I am that guy" and "testifying of yourself" could be wadr. But then i recognize that i am evil, just like Jesus said!

Jesus ate with sinners.

 

[farouk]

Thank you, farouk. That blessed me.

The grace of God in the Gospel is a most wondrous topic. One can see how the ascription of praise at the end of Ephesians 3 is stimulated by Paul's sense of deep appreciation and wonder at the grace of God in Christ.

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus ate with sinners.

yes, however we also have the rather obscure instruction dont eat anything while you are there ok, Jesus ate with "sinners" but my guess is that they were carefully chosen?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

yes, however we also have the rather obscure instruction dont eat anything while you are there ok, Jesus ate with "sinners" but my guess is that they were carefully chosen?

I don't know that instruction, don't eat anything while you are there...

I don't know if they were carefully chosen. Did He pick only the cream of the crop of sinners to eat with? Or did He just call sinners everywhere, even ordinary sinners, to come and drink?

 

[farouk]

@"ByGrace" and @Lady Crosstalk : Thanks for the 'likes'.

 

[GodsGrace]

Now that is hilarious!

You're saying that we do not get Christian theology from the Bible.

Should I start reading COMMENTARIES instead?

You know I don't like commentaries.

 

[bbyrd009]

I don't know that instruction, don't eat anything while you are there...

I don't know if they were carefully chosen. Did He pick only the cream of the crop of sinners to eat with? Or did He just call sinners everywhere, even ordinary sinners, to come and drink?

two diff scenarios imo, and the instruction is searchable, OT, about the prophet who got lied to by the other prophet, which i cant think of a more perfect passage for this scenario we are playing out right here tbh. Nailed it.

 

[GodsGrace]

I think I do...for you to understand it, you would have to go through a process of thinking about it with certain things in mind...

Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

YOU understand the Trinity?
Maybe you could speak to some theologians that can't seem to be able to really grock it...know what I mean?

 

[ScottA]

Yes, we all caught it. Only a very special person (in their own eyes) would call another a fool. Its the very prideful thought of being special that would cause a man to do it.

Matthew 23:19
"Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift?"

 

[bbyrd009]

ya ok go with that S

You know I don't like commentaries.

? hmm. Most of them are useless i guess, but dont we all go out into the wilderness based upon someone elses commentary? A parents or whoevers?