Point duly noted.
I am still not convinced that a man is not saved apart from being baptized. If you can show me scripture that specifically teaches that, it would be appreciated.
I’m gonna show it to you but you won’t see it. Your mind is made up.
We are saved by obedience to the gospel of Jesus Christ? Yes?
Mk 16:15,16; Rom 1:16, 10:16; 1 Cor 4:15, 15:1,2; Gal 1:6-8; Eph 1:13; 2 thes 1:8, 2:13,14; 2 Tim 1:10
This gospel, that saves, had a beginning. Before Jesus ascended he gave the great commission to the apostles
Mk 16 :15,16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Under the new covenant that was to be preached; when does salvation occur? Before or after baptism?
I shouldn’t have to go any farther then this but I will.
Jesus said that this commission would “begin in Jerusalem”. Lk 24:47. That happened on Pentecost. Starting with the first new covenant gospel sermon in acts 2 EVERYBODY did the same thing to become a child of God.
They heard, believed, repented, and were baptized for remission of sins, Why? Because that is what Jesus commanded in the great commission. Read post 1 of my GC thread.
Please answer this question? WHAT IS BAPTISM FOR?
Acts 2:38, 3:19, 22:16; 1 Cor 12:13; Rom 6:3,4,17,18; Col 2:11-13; Gal 3:27; 1 pet 3:20,21
For Luke 11:9-13 shows that a person can receive the Holy Ghost simply by asking...that being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins is not required.
No where in that passage does it say....baptism for remission of sins is not required. Read His commission in Mk 16:15,16; Lk 24:46,47; Mt 28:18-20 and show me where he says..All you have to do is ask for the HS. He said that hearing, believing, repentance, baptism and remission of sins would be preached BEGINNING AT JERUSALEM. now show me ANY example of someone, under the new covenant that began on Pentecost, who “just asked” for the HS? If you are right there should be example after example. All you will find are examples of baptism over and over. Why? Because it was part of Jesus last will and testament.
Heb 5:9 christ is the author of eternal salvation to all that OBEY him.
It can certainly be a point of contact if you have any doubt...but required, absolutely not.
What parts of the great commission ARE NOT required for Salvation?
Hearing? Paul said you can’t be saved without hearing... Rom 10:13-15
Believing?
Repenting?
Remission of sins? How do we receive remission of sins today?
Baptism? So the others are required but for some reason this one isn’t even though Jesus directly connected it to salvation. Mk 16