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[Eternally Grateful]

Side step? I was staying on topic and you changed the topic. The question I was getting at is whether God would want animal sacrifices to be reinstated in the future or not. I wasn't talking about whether or not people would try to do that against His wishes. I believe the answer is a clear no to the question of whether God would want animal sacrifices to be reinstated or not. What is your answer to that question?

Well if prophecy says they will be re0instated, and it does.

then I would take God at his word.

There can not be an abomination of desolation in Dan 9 if there is no temple and no sacrifices..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Have you taken the time to see what that really means? It doesn't seem so.

Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

15 Now out of His mouth goes a [g]sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.

He shall rule them, does not sound like he is going to destroy them..

Can you see here that Him ruling with a rod of iron is associated with Him destroying His enemies?

Nope. see above

You are in error, not my Bible. You are not doing your due diligence by looking at the context.

Your interpretation of your bible is in error. If we interpret iut the way you do,. we might as well throw it out. Gods promises mean nothing

I know it never took away sin, but they were done as sin offerings. You're telling me to study Hebrews? That's very ironic since it seems that you have never studied it carefully. Have you ever read this:

Yep. And scripture says they will do it again.

I happen to believe scripture.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This shows that the animal sacrifices that were part of the old covenant law were only done for the purpose of foreshadowing Christ's sacrifice. So, they already served their purpose. Where does scripture teach that they would ever be required again? Nowhere. This passage says that once Christ came into the world God had no desire for animal sacrifices any longer and took no pleasure in them. So, why would He ever reinstate them? That makes no sense. Jesus made His "once for all" sacrifice so that no other sacrifices would ever be required.

I just go by what the word says.

You do whatever you want.

As paul said, Gods calling is irrevocable. All Israel will be saved.. when christ returns and gathers them and brings them home. and he rules in their land and in Davids city for 1000 years.. with Satan bound, and he will rule with a rod of Iron..

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well if prophecy says they will be re0instated, and it does.

then I would take God at his word.

You should be able to explain why that would be the case in light of scripture like Hebrews 8-10 which says that animal sacrifices have already served their purpose. For what reason would they be reinstated? It would have to be some reason that doesn't contradict what is written in passages like Hebrews 8-10. You care about not interpreting one passage in such a way that contradicts another, right?

There can not be an abomination of desolation in Dan 9 if there is no temple and no sacrifices..

That already occurred long ago. Jerusalem and its temple were destroyed and made desolate in 70 AD because of their abominations. It's the first coming of Christ that's referenced in Daniel 9:24-27, not His second coming. So, it's talking about things related to His first coming and the consequences that would occur as a result of the Jews of that time having rejected Him (except for the remnant of believers, of course).

If you read what was talked about just before Jesus gave His Olivet Discourse you can see that He said the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed. And one of the questions the disciples asked Him was about that. And He answered it in Matthew 24:15-21/Mark 13:14-20/Luke 21:20-24. Jerusalem was surrounded by armies just as He said it would be and it was then destroyed along with the temple just as Jesus said would happen.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

15 Now out of His mouth goes a [g]sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.

He shall rule them, does not sound like he is going to destroy them..

Did you read the whole verse? You don't think Him smiting them and treading them in the winepress of the wrath of God is a description of Him destroying them? Did you continue reading any further after that? Does context matter to you?

Revelation 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

Does this not paint a picture of the destruction of His enemies rather than ruling them like a shepherd in the way you are thinking of? It sure does to me.

Your interpretation of your bible is in error.

Yet, you are doing absolutely nothing to back up that claim.

If we interpret iut the way you do,. we might as well throw it out. Gods promises mean nothing

What are you talking about here? What promises exactly are you referring to? Give me scripture references to back up your claims for once.

Yep. And scripture says they will do it again.

I happen to believe scripture.

You don't seem to believe Hebrews 8-10. But, there is no reason for comments like this. We all believe that scripture is true. That isn't the issue. The issue is that we interpret some scripture differently. To make comments as if you believe scripture is true and I don't are pointless and simply not true.

I just go by what the word says.

So do I. But, what that means to someone like you is usually that you assume everything is literal and you tend to assume everything is yet to happen in the future. But, that is not the case, obviously.

You do whatever you want.

I will. And I don't need your permission to do that.

As paul said, Gods calling is irrevocable. All Israel will be saved.. when christ returns and gathers them and brings them home. and he rules in their land and in Davids city for 1000 years.. with Satan bound, and he will rule with a rod of Iron..

What is God's calling? Only for the people of Israel to be saved or for all people who call on the name of the Lord to be saved (Romans 10:10-12)? Have you ever even thought about that? Paul was not giving a new prophecy in Romans 11:26-27, but rather was referencing an OT prophecy (Isaiah 59:20-21) and explaining how it was being fulfilled.

What other covenant is there by which people's sins are taken away besides the new covenant? There is none. And the new covenant was put into effect long ago already by the blood of Christ. So, read Romans 11:26-27 from that perspective. And keep in mind what Paul wrote earlier when contrasting natural Israel with spiritual Israel (Romans 9:6-8) and think about in which Israel are all saved?

 

[rwb]

Forget about opinions = mine, yours and others.

LOOK at what our God has done = Genesis ch5

This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in His own likeness. 2Male and female He created them, and He blessed them. And in the day they were created, He called them “man.”
3When Adam was 130 years old, he had a son in his own likeness, after his own image; and he named him Seth. 4And after he had become the father of Seth, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
5So Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

Explain please. How does Adams lifespan prove one thousand literal years for having lived and reigned with Christ, as well as one thousand years for those who shall reign with Christ? I don't get the point you are trying to make?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Forget about opinions = mine, yours and others.

LOOK at what our God has done = Genesis ch5

This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in His own likeness. 2Male and female He created them, and He blessed them. And in the day they were created, He called them “man.”
3When Adam was 130 years old, he had a son in his own likeness, after his own image; and he named him Seth. 4And after he had become the father of Seth, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
5So Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.

So, 930 years equals 1,000 years in your mind?

 

[David in NJ]

Explain please. How does Adams lifespan prove one thousand literal years for having lived and reigned with Christ, as well as one thousand years for those who shall reign with Christ? I don't get the point you are trying to make?

It would be easy for me to tell you.

i prefer that you pray and ask the LORD but make sure you abandon yourself before HIM when you do, otherwise HE may not answer you since HE knows our hearts.
This is how i approach the LORD Jesus Christ when i am seeking to know His Truth from His word.


John ch17
Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth. As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world.
For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth.

I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,
that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.

Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, that they may see the glory You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

Righteous Father, although the world has not known You, I know You, and they know that You sent Me.
And I have made Your name known to them and will continue to make it known, so that the love You have for Me may be in them, and I in them.”

 

[Zao is life]

Scripture does not teach that He will do that. You try to talk about me supposedly ignoring things. You seem to be ignoring the fact that it associates His "rule" with a rod of iron with Him destroying His enemies rather than shepherding them.

How is He going to be able to shepherd the nations with a rod of iron (taking no more nonsense) as the Revelation states, if He does not first crush His enemies with a rod of iron?

Psalm 2:9 says He is going to dash His enemies in pieces like a potter's vessel. The Revelation says that He is going to shepherd (not break, but shepherd) all nations with an iron rod.

That's how It is written in scripture. The words were not chosen by Amillennilaists (how unfortunate for Amills). Ignoring the words and their meanings in order to change the meaning of scripture is yet another one of many examples of how you change the meaning of scripture in order to make it comply with Amil. It's not a lie to say you do, because you do.

This is a blatant lie. It is because I properly understand that concept that I am an Amil. It is Premils who have no understanding of that concept. I do not ignore or change ANY scripture. That is a lie.

Again, it's not a lie. Just one more example of many, is how you changed the binding of Satan in Revelation 20, so that he is rendered incapable of deceiving the nations, into the "restricting" of Satan, who the New Testament teaches is still very busily deceiving the nations.

Scripture says he will not be able to deceive the nations, so you ignore the fact that scripture also says many times very clearly that he is still deceiving the nations. Then you change the meaning of "bound and unable to deceive the nations" to "restricted and still able to deceive the nations but restricted in his ability to do so, in that he cannot prevent the gospel's work" - something the New Testament certainly does not even imply regarding the binding of Satan, let alone state.

Another example is how you attempted to use the fact that Christ's death and resurrection destroyed Satan's works as "proof" that Satan is "bound for a thousand years", as though that destruction of Satan's works by the death and resurrection of Christ will last only a thousand years, to be reversed for a brief period during Satan's "little season".

You change the meaning of scripture a lot in order to attempt get scripture to comply with Amil theology. It's not a lie.

NOWHERE does it say that "the Feast of Tabernacles no longer requires any sacrifice for sin". You are making that up. If it was required in the future then it would be kept the way it was always kept. There is no scripture which says otherwise.

To say there is no scripture that says otherwise is a straight-out denial of the New Testament, where Hebrews 10:1-10 and many other scriptures state very clearly that sacrifices for sin are no longer required.

What is written, is written. How inconvenient what is written is for Amils,. How inconvenient that the New Testament makes it 100% clear that there is no longer any need for sacrifices for sin, and how inconvenient that Zechariah 14 states that the nations will be required to keep the Feast of Tabernacles, which will obviously not involve sacrifices for sin.

Your complaint is as bad as complaining that keeping of the Passover is no longer required by law and yet Christ told us to remember His death and resurrection at Passover/Easter (and whenever we partake of the wine and bread) - but we do not, need not, and should not sacrifice a lamb, nor even do we need to remember the salvation from death of the firstborn by the flesh of the sacrificed lamb, but the death of God's firstborn, and understand the unleavened bread to represent His body.

The Passover was required by law, yet we do it - and we do it without making any animal sacrifices because we know that Jesus sacrificed Himself and is the once--for-all sacrifice for sins.

How inconvenient for Amillennialists that it is written that the nations are going to be required to go up to New Jerusalem and keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And how odd that you do not understand why this would not require any sacrifices for sins to be made.

John saw the nations and kings of the earth bringing their gifts of honor into New Jerusalem in Revelation 21:24-26. Isaiah saw it and wrote it down in Isaiah 60:1, 5, 11, & 20-21. Zechariah saw it and wrote it down in Zechariah 14, where we also read that it will be required for the nations to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

How unfortunate what is written is for Amillennialists who must, because they have to, change the meaning of scripture so that it always complies with Amilllenilaist theology.

It's not a lie to say that you do, because I've just given a few examples of where you either ignore scripture or the meaning of words, or change the meaning in order to make it comply with Amil.

Amillennialists always make it very obvious that your starting point for interpretation of scripture is an Amillennilaist base, instead of letting scripture tell you what it's saying and what it means.

 

[rwb]

It would be easy for me to tell you.

i prefer that you pray and ask the LORD but make sure you abandon yourself before HIM when you do, otherwise HE may not answer you since HE knows our hearts.
This is how i approach the LORD Jesus Christ when i am seeking to know His Truth from His word.

David, this seems a bit of a cop out to me, hope you don't mind my saying that. Would it not be more profitable to me to simply show me how you've come to understand the age of Adam proves there will be one thousand literal years?

I've been clear about how I have come to understand a/the thousand years is not literally one thousand years, but symbolically represents time given the church to proclaim the Gospel under the power of the Holy Spirit unto all the earth so the spiritual Kingdom of God can be complete as people hear and believe Christ for salvation. John shows this symbolic time is past and future, as well as being present. It is also the time for which Satan is bound and will not be set free until this symbolic time expires.

You have not been clear about why you believe the years of Adam somehow prove a thousand years will be literally one thousand years. If what you believe is true, that means that my understanding would be wrong. If you don't want to show me how you've arrived at this doctrine, perhaps you wouldn't mind proving that my doctrine is error?

 

[rwb]

How is He going to be able to shepherd the nations with a rod of iron (taking no more nonsense) as the Revelation states, if He does not first crush His enemies with a rod of iron?

Christ gives His people power over the nations and He rules them with a rod of iron NOW, in this age of time. The way we have power over the nations is through the Word of God, the Gospel and power of the Holy Spirit in believers. Christ is not ruling and reigning now over the nations of this world, He is ruling and reigning NOW over BELIEVERS that come from the nations of this world. Christ rules and reigns over His people! The people of this world, or those in unbelief are ruled and reigned over by their god of this world.

Revelation 2:26-27 (KJV) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

1 Thessalonians 1:5 (KJV) For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

2 Corinthians 2:15-17 (KJV) For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

 

[Zao is life]

Christ gives His people power over the nations and He rules them with a rod of iron NOW, in this age of time. The way we have power over the nations is through the Word of God, the Gospel and power of the Holy Spirit in believers. Christ is not ruling and reigning now over the nations of this world, He is ruling and reigning NOW over BELIEVERS that come from the nations of this world. Christ rules and reigns over His people! The people of this world, or those in unbelief are ruled and reigned over by their god of this world.

Revelation 2:26-27 (KJV) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

1 Thessalonians 1:5 (KJV) For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

2 Corinthians 2:15-17 (KJV) For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

All the nations who now or who ever did oppose the gospel, are they not deceived? What is the motive of those who persecute Christians in the Middle East and in Africa and in China? If their motive is that they believe that the gospel opposes the truth, then who deceived them? The devil who has been rendered unable to deceive them?

Show me where Christians have power over the nations that are persecuting them. If Christ is ruling only over His own people now, then how is He ruling with an iron rod over the nations who oppose Him now?

The truth is you've adjusted the plain meaning of all these scriptures in your futile attempts to make scripture comply with your Amil base, and continue to adjust (change) the meaning of a great deal of scripture in your futile attempts to do so.

 

[David in NJ]

David, this seems a bit of a cop out to me, hope you don't mind my saying that. Would it not be more profitable to me to simply show me how you've come to understand the age of Adam proves there will be one thousand literal years?

I've been clear about how I have come to understand a/the thousand years is not literally one thousand years, but symbolically represents time given the church to proclaim the Gospel under the power of the Holy Spirit unto all the earth so the spiritual Kingdom of God can be complete as people hear and believe Christ for salvation. John shows this symbolic time is past and future, as well as being present. It is also the time for which Satan is bound and will not be set free until this symbolic time expires.

You have not been clear about why you believe the years of Adam somehow prove a thousand years will be literally one thousand years. If what you believe is true, that means that my understanding would be wrong. If you don't want to show me how you've arrived at this doctrine, perhaps you wouldn't mind proving that my doctrine is error?

Actually, you have been shown from the Scripture alone, in my previous posts the exact answer given by God.

You even rejoiced in the answer, howbeit you did not recognize it's connection to Genesis ch5 and Revelation ch20.

Peace

 

[rwb]

All the nations who now or who ever did oppose the gospel, are they not deceived? What is the motive of those who persecute Christians in the Middle East and in Africa and in China? If their motive is that they believe that the gospel opposes the truth, then who deceived them? The devil who has been rendered unable to deceive them?

Show me where Christians have power over the nations that are persecuting them. If Christ is ruling only over His own people now, then how is He ruling over the nations who oppose Him now?

Where does Scripture say that in this life Christians will not suffer persecution when preaching the Gospel? As I said, Christ is NOT ruling over those of the nations who oppose Him. Christ rules and reigns over His people from His Kingdom in heaven now. The kingdoms of this world will not be the kingdoms of our Lord until the seventh angel sounds. (Rev 11:15) What will happen when the seventh angel begins to sound? (Rev 10:5-7) There shall be TIME no longer.

I was once under the power of the god of this world. Then I heard the Gospel of Christ and through the power of His Word and Spirit I was born again, and believed Christ through His Spirit in me. I turned from the god of this world to God the Almighty, Jesus Christ our Lord. That is how Christ and Christians have mighty power over the nations. Not power over all people throughout all nations, but power of the Gospel & Spirit over whosoever believes according to grace through faith.

This is how Satan is now, since the cross and resurrection of Christ, bound. Not with literal chains in a literal pit but bound so that he can no longer hold people in bondage to unbelief and death who hear the Gospel and through the power of the Spirit believe Christ for everlasting life. Because no power in heaven or on earth can prevent the Church from being built. Believers/Christians are the Church on earth.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

 

[rwb]

Actually, you have been shown from the Scripture alone, in my previous posts the exact answer given by God.

You even rejoiced in the answer, howbeit you did not recognize it's connection to Genesis ch5 and Revelation ch20.

Peace

I don't know what you talking about, and I don't see this connection you seem to see between Gen 5 and Rev 20?

 

[David in NJ]

I don't know what you talking about, and I don't see this connection you seem to see between Gen 5 and Rev 20?

i know

 

[rwb]

i know

Since you are so sure your doctrine is true, you should be able to show why the doctrine of a/the thousand years I've given in not true? At least then we could have a discussion. It profits neither you nor I to simply continue to say you know but I do not. If a/the thousand years are literally one thousand years then take the time to prove what you allege.

 

[David in NJ]

Since you are so sure your doctrine is true, you should be able to show why the doctrine of a/the thousand years I've given in not true? At least then we could have a discussion. It profits neither you nor I to simply continue to say you know but I do not. If a/the thousand years are literally one thousand years then take the time to prove what you allege.

It is not my doctrine.

Just let the words of God permeate you heart and mind.

Give ear, O heavens, and I will speak;
And hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
2Let my teaching drop as the rain,
My speech distill as the dew,
As raindrops on the tender herb,
And as showers on the grass.
3For I proclaim the name of the Lord:
Ascribe greatness to our God.
4He is the Rock, His work is perfect;
For all His ways are justice,
A God of truth and without injustice;
Righteous and upright is He.



Look intently, with a pure heart, at Genesis 5:1-5 and Revelation 20:1-6

Now understand that the connection lies between Genesis and Revelation.

 

[Truth7t7]

He shall rule them, does not sound like he is going to destroy them..

Your claim is "False"

A "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" that a Potter destroys clay vessels with

Jesus returns and destroy's the wicked like a Potter destroy's his vessels with a "Rod Of Iron" its that simple

Sad part is, many have been clearly shown this truth several times, and they continue to teach error

The "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" not a "Kings Scepter" as many falsely believe and teach

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

[Zao is life]

The kingdoms of this world will not be the kingdoms of our Lord until the seventh angel sounds. (Rev 11:15) What will happen when the seventh angel begins to sound? (Rev 10:5-7) There shall be TIME no longer.

The above is yet another example of all your futile attempts to make scripture comply with Amil theology.

Daniel 12:7
And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was on the waters of the river, when he held up his right and his left hand to Heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever
that it shall be for a time, times, and a half. And when they have made an end of scattering the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Revelation 10:5-7
And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the earth lifted his hand to the heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it, and the earth and the things in it, and the sea and the things in it,
that there should no longer be time. But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he will begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He has declared to His servants the prophets.

In Daniel Chapter 12, the final 3.5 years is mentioned. In Revelation Chapter 10 the final 3.5 years has now passed, and the 7th trumpet is about to sound. (It's good to compare the whole of Daniel Chapter 12 with Revelation 10:1-7).

Not power over all people throughout all nations, but power of the Gospel & Spirit over whosoever believes according to grace through faith.

It's better for me to just quote scripture after quoting how you changed what is written:

Revelation 12:5
And she bore a son, a male, who is going to shepherd [poimaino] all nations with a rod of iron. And her child was caught up to God and to His throne.

Revelation 2
25 But that which you have, hold fast until I come.
26 And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
27 And he will shepherd [poimaino] them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
28 And I will give him the Morning Star.
29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

Revelation 19
11 And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.
12 And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.
13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd [poimaino] them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

This is how Satan is now, since the cross and resurrection of Christ, bound. Not with literal chains in a literal pit but bound so that he can no longer hold people in bondage to unbelief and death who hear the Gospel and through the power of the Spirit believe Christ for everlasting life. Because no power in heaven or on earth can prevent the Church from being built. Believers/Christians are the Church on earth.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Nope. Long before you changed the meaning of it, the scripture said (it is written) that Satan will be bound and rendered incapable of deceiving the nations:

"And he cast him into the abyss and shut him up and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled."

And here is the history of it in scripture:

In Genesis chapter 3, we read of how Satan appeared in the Garden of Eden and deceived mankind.

Revelation 12:9 calls Satan "the great dragon" and "the old serpent called Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world."

The only reason given for Satan being bound in Revelation 20:1-3 is that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years have expired.

The word "until" is pertinent, because if we bother to look for statements in the New Testament implying that Satan was bound when Jesus died and rose again, all we will ever find is passages stating the opposite:

Jesus called Satan "the ruler of this world" and the New Testament calls him "the prince of the power of the air who works in the sons of disobedience", who we are told will give the beast and false prophet his seat, power and great authority (Revelation Chapter 13).

The saints are warned to be weary of his wiles and to resist him, and to put on the full armor of God because "we do not wrestle against flesh and blood" ( John 12:31; 1 Peter 5:8-9; Ephesians 6:11-12; Revelation 2:9-10 & Revelation 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 2:18; James 4:7 ).

Ephesians 2:2 tells us about Satan's influence over the societies of this world, this Age.

Revelation Chapters 12-13 portray this current status quo as spanning the entire present Age and culminating in the beast's war against the saints in Revelation Chapter 13 (see Revelation 13:7).

Your posts always show me how you keep on changing the meaning of what is written in futile attempts to make scripture comply with Amil theology. But you will always fail, because Amil theology is false.

 

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It is not my doctrine.

Just let the words of God permeate you heart and mind.

Give ear, O heavens, and I will speak;
And hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
2Let my teaching drop as the rain,
My speech distill as the dew,
As raindrops on the tender herb,
And as showers on the grass.
3For I proclaim the name of the Lord:
Ascribe greatness to our God.
4He is the Rock, His work is perfect;
For all His ways are justice,
A God of truth and without injustice;
Righteous and upright is He.



Look intently, with a pure heart, at Genesis 5:1-5 and Revelation 20:1-6

Now understand that the connection lies between Genesis and Revelation.

Why do you equate 930 years the man Adam lived to one thousand literal years? Do you believe that because the years of Adams life were literally 930 years, a/the thousand years must also be literal years?