Poll. Will we be judged when we die?

[MostlyConfused]

Sister Deb.
Considering I'm not 100% sure which doctrine to believe, amongst all the debate, I'm happy to do good deeds and repent for my sins.

It's better than doing bad deeds and not repenting for my sins.
God bless

That is splendid. It’s also quite wise.

 

[rwb]

Judgment takes place after the Millennium at the GWTJ (Great White Throne Judgment).

The GWTJ takes place at the end of this age. So, yes, you are correct when the seventh trumpet begins to sound that time given this earth whereby man might be saved, Christ returns and then comes Judgment Day. This is how we know a/the thousand years symbolizes time from the first advent of Christ until the seventh angel begins to sound. There will not be another ONE thousand years of time given this earth when Christ comes again.

Re 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: (some translations; no longer delay)
Re 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

…I’ll go ahead with a few more details. Those who go through the First Resurrection when Jesus returns at the 7th trump will not be judged. They have already been awarded eternal life.

The Bible speaks only of the First Resurrection, that points to the bodily resurrection of Christ we must partake of to be born again of His Spirit, and the Bible also speaks of the bodily resurrection of all the DEAD at the GWTJ. There will not be a bodily resurrection of born-again saints, and a separate bodily resurrection of the dead from the graves one thousand years later.

Again, you are correct, since those who have part in the resurrection of Christ; that is the First Resurrection, will not be judged at the GWTJ. Because only the DEAD will be judged then. The body of Christ; all those who have part in Christ (First Resurrection) were judged in life before they died through the Gospel and the Spirit sent from Christ in them. At the GWTJ the born-again body of Christ will be on the right hand of Christ already changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible as we read in 1 Cor 15:51-57.

Yes, those who have part in the First Resurrection at the GWTJ will hear Christ saying to them: "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world". (Matthew 25:34 (KJV)

 

[rwb]

It is true we aren't saved by our works. But we are judged by them.
Just like a common criminal in a court of law. The judge views the evidence against the condemned, and decides his guilt or innocence based on the evidence. Because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, all are saved by grace. Yet only those whose works testify to grace working in the life, are judged accordingly.

I agree, we are judged in life according to our works, that is why Paul, speaking to the body of Christ (church) says "we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ" during our lifetime. The judgment seat of Christ, unlike the great white throne judgment helps believers to grow in faith and obedience by listening to and heeding the Holy Spirit in us. The GWTJ is not for born again believers, it shall be for the DEAD, those who die never having been born again. Their works in life will testify or judge against them because they never had faith to believe in Christ. Without faith it is impossible to please God, which is why Christ says, "Ye must be born again".

Hebrews 11:6 (KJV) But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

 

[MostlyConfused]

What kind of rewards?

The judgement for believers who have received the down payment (the first resurrection) is not a judgement to either life or death, they have escaped death. Their judgement is to either honor or dishonor/outer darkness.

It is the second judgement (the second resurrection)that will result in either life or death. The Protestant machine denies that men who treated others and cared about others as well as they treated and cared about themselves can be shown the same mercy they themselves showed to others. They deny that any men can show they have Gods’ laws written on their hearts and are a law unto themselves. The Protestant machine denies that God will show mercy to and forgive a man who shows mercy to others and forgives others. They deny that He can judge anyone with the same measure with which they have judged others.

 

[rwb]

I believe believers will be judged on what they have done, but only to the reward in heaven, because they are not judged to salvation because faith in Christ has saved them from that judgement.
John 5:
24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

Verse 28 is interesting because it mirrors Matthew 25:31-. Jesus separates all the nations but refers them to whatever they did or didn't do for His brethren (adelphos) Who are these brethren of His?
46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers (adelphos) stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers (adelphos) are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers (adelphos)?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers (adelphos). 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Pointing to His disciples Jesus says these are His brothers (adelphos).

You've said this well! All of mankind will be at the GWTJ as Matthew shows, the DEAD, those never born again will be there to be judged according to their deeds in the flesh done without faith to believe in Christ. Those on the right hand of Christ have already been judged righteous through faith in Christ, therefore they will receive the "great reward" we are promised that is immortal/incorruptible body that will never know sin or death made alive through our eternal spirit; fit to live with Christ forevermore on the new earth.

 

[mailmandan]

I believe scripture makes it clear that we will all be judged after we die. The real question is, "what will judgment look like for the righteous in contrast with judgment for the unrighteous?"

 

[Rockerduck]

No condemnation for believers (Jesus paid for sins, Romans 8:1, 2Corinthians 5:10).

There will be rewards for what we did right (Revelation 22:12).

This is correct until you said "there will be rewards for what we did right". We can do nothing without Christ in us. Christ gets the glory, not We. You can't let pride get in there

 

[Rockerduck]

We will all be judged according to what we have done...

"Do you suppose, O man⁠ ~ you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself⁠ ~ that you will escape the judgment of God?... He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury" (Romans 2:3-8).

And we see this in Jesus's graphic description of the final Judgment ~ Yes, the Great White Throne judgment of Revelation 20:11-15 ~ in Matthew 25:31-46. This will occur very shortly after all are bodily resurrected, some to eternal life and others to judgment (John 5:28-29).

Grace and peace to all.

We can't do nothing, that's pride. Its Christ in us, to His Glory.

 

[rwb]

I believe scripture makes it clear that we will all be judged after we die. The real question is, "what will judgment look like for the righteous in contrast with judgment for the unrighteous?"

What you're calling judgment (I assume referring to GWTJ) for the righteous, I believe is better understood as our promised REWARD (singular). It is the DEAD at the GWTJ being called to give account for what they have done in life (physical body) without faith in Christ; unbelievers. Of course, the Bible shows even the body of Christ, born again Christians, are being judged during their lives. The church in life stands before the judgment seat of Christ not for condemnation, but that we may grow in faith and righteousness. When we have done good for the body of Christ in this life, we receive many blessings (not rewards) from God for the good things we do (Mk 10:30; Lu 18:30; 2 Th 2:16-17). But when believers are judged to have done bad unto the body of Christ, we are not condemned with unbelievers, but chastened by God, that we might learn obedience and to do good. (Heb 12:5-11; Rev 3:19; Jas 1:12; 1 Cor 11:30-32)

 

[mailmandan]

What you're calling judgment (I assume referring to GWTJ) for the righteous, I believe is better understood as our promised REWARD (singular). It is the DEAD at the GWTJ being called to give account for what they have done in life (physical body) without faith in Christ; unbelievers. Of course, the Bible shows even the body of Christ, born again Christians, are being judged during their lives. The church in life stands before the judgment seat of Christ not for condemnation, but that we may grow in faith and righteousness. When we have done good for the body of Christ in this life, we receive many blessings (not rewards) from God for the good things we do (Mk 10:30; Lu 18:30; 2 Th 2:16-17). But when believers are judged to have done bad unto the body of Christ, we are not condemned with unbelievers, but chastened by God, that we might learn obedience and to do good. (Heb 12:5-11; Rev 3:19; Jas 1:12; 1 Cor 11:30-32)

Yes, I see the judgment seat of Christ (bema seat) for believers as determining rewards and loss of rewards (1 Corinthians 3:11-15) and the great white throne judgment as the final, ultimate judgment for the (dead) unbelievers (Revelation 20:11-15) and some will receive greater condemnation. (Matthew 23:14)