And know one has said any differnt you are so busy arguing stupid things like where you live makes your race you arent hearing what is said
Proof: Races before Flood?
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(Christina;63364)
another opinion not based in anything
Who else was there for Cain to fear, other than the rest of Adam's family? No opinion, please. Just scripture.Scripture, not my opinion, says Adam was the first man and the father of all people. I gave you the verses.
another opinion not based in anything
Who else was there for Cain to fear, other than the rest of Adam's family? No opinion, please. Just scripture.Scripture, not my opinion, says Adam was the first man and the father of all people. I gave you the verses.
Thats the point there was no other family he killed Abel you tell me who was he afraid of genius your the one saying no one was there Not me I say he was afraid of the races that God gave the order to repleish the earth to..
(Christina;63368)
Thats the point there was no other family he killed Abel you tell me who was he afraid of genius your the one saying no one was there Not me I say he was afraid of the races that God gave the order to repleish the earth to..
No other family?Genesis 5:4b Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters.Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters.Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Enoch walked with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters.Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters.Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters.Is it your opinion that Eve wasn't, uh, friendly? Or that she had a prescription for The Pill?
Thats the point there was no other family he killed Abel you tell me who was he afraid of genius your the one saying no one was there Not me I say he was afraid of the races that God gave the order to repleish the earth to..
No other family?Genesis 5:4b Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters.Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters.Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Enoch walked with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters.Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters.Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters.Is it your opinion that Eve wasn't, uh, friendly? Or that she had a prescription for The Pill?
And your answer to 1 cor 15:45 is futher down in the chapter but it requires a little deeper understanding if you dont just pull scripture out of contextI Corinthians 15:46 "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural: and afterward that which is spiritual."Paul is asking, Why was it all this way? Why is it required that before one can have spiritual eternal life, that there must be a flesh body or natural life first? Why do we have to be born in the flesh first before we can be born of the spirit?I Corinthians 15:47 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."No one has said Any differnet Adam was the first in the bloodine of Christ he was an earthly man that Remember what God said to the angels in Genesis 1:26; "And God said, "Let us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air..."Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them."In other words, Let us make ourselves in our own image on earth. So each soul must pass through that natural or flesh body made of the dust of the earth, and God Himself would also pass through this flesh age just as each soul was required to do. So God Himself through His creation, brought about the conception of Jesus Christ, and He gave instructions that Jesus name should be called "Immanuel", which means "God with us". So we see that each soul was to pass through this earth age of the flesh, in a flesh body, and God Himself came through that same natural form also.
(Follower;63369)
No other family?Genesis 5:4b Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters.Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters.Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Enoch walked with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters.Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters.Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters.Is it your opinion that Eve wasn't, uh, friendly? Or that she had a prescription for The Pill?
What does this have to do with anything they all came after cain was sent away so you just think you can take everything out of time and context to suit your purpose? Cain said he was afraid before Seth was ever born. He was also sent away
No other family?Genesis 5:4b Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters.Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters.Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.Enoch walked with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters.Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters.Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters.Is it your opinion that Eve wasn't, uh, friendly? Or that she had a prescription for The Pill?
What does this have to do with anything they all came after cain was sent away so you just think you can take everything out of time and context to suit your purpose? Cain said he was afraid before Seth was ever born. He was also sent away
he was afraid they would kill him ..God banned him to be sent away Seth was not even born ...yet according to you he comes back and marrys his sister and then builds a city for the ones that arent born yet and want to kill him which isnt written and your telling me you got it all down. except when you take it context and use common sense then your theroy doesnt work
(Christina;63366)
And know one has said any differnt you are so busy arguing stupid things you arent hearing what is said
I hear you loud and clear, Did God Not make woman form Adam ? So Woman was'nt existance before Adam as Woman was created from Adam, So where did the women come from before Adam?
And know one has said any differnt you are so busy arguing stupid things you arent hearing what is said
I hear you loud and clear, Did God Not make woman form Adam ? So Woman was'nt existance before Adam as Woman was created from Adam, So where did the women come from before Adam?
And if you would listen I said after God rested he realized he had no one to till the soil he put Adam in a garden a protected place seprate from the rest of the earth because he was to be as the Hebrew say Ha-adam THE MAN aspecial man that the first in the line of Christ the garden had gates was protected and Adam was alone in the Garden and God said its not Good that he be alone and created Eve. This has nothing to do with the races outside the garden that were to replenish the earth. Adam was THE MAN
No one is taking anything from Adam he was the line our savior would come through he is the first in the Blood line our salvation would come through What were are saying has nothing to do to with Adam or our salvation it's simply explanation God provodes if one can see as to where the races came from and who Cain married, built a city for and who was told to replenish the earth. These races are not whom the Bible story is about its about Christ and his family and his bloodline. nothing we are saying effects that.
(univac;63380)
Then what is being said?
Thats what we have been telling you but you are so busy arguing your not hearing anything.
Then what is being said?
Thats what we have been telling you but you are so busy arguing your not hearing anything.
All we are saying is God created all the races and told them to replenish the earth He did not replenish the earth with incest Cain was afraid the races would kill him when he was kicked out into the World he had known nothing but the protection of the Gardenhe went out to land of Nod an married from amoung the races and built a city for them Adam and our salvation is the whole differnt story He was alone in the protected garden til Eve its the rest of the Bible he was THE MAN and Christ would come through him and the Bible tells us this story
(Christina;63371)
What does this have to do with anything they all came after cain was sent away so you just think you can take everything out of time and context to suit your purpose? Cain said he was afraid before Seth was ever born. He was also sent away
You are right about Seth not being born until after Cain's sin. And, if I thought you were a little more open to reason, I would have provided some commentary rather than just quoting a bunch of scriptures (it feels kind of retarded doing that instead of just talking to you like like someone who won't dismiss reason as opinion while asserting cultish doctrine). The Bible does not say that Cain and Able were the first two children. It does not even say that Eve didn't have any other sons after the birth of Able until the death of Able. It only implies that Seth was the first son after Able's death.By the time Cain killed Able, Eve could have had over a 100 children (173 even, if there were no twins), with each of those children having scores of children, and those children having children. Adam could have had great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren by the time Cain killed Eve (if for the first 130 years, there was an average growth rate of 20%, that would be 40 million people when Cain killed Able - and you said there were no other family). Whatever the population growth rate, Cain knew a lot more people were coming along, and he had good reason to fear that some of them might want to punish him for killing Able.The point of what I quoted was to first bring your attention to the fact that Adam had other sons and daughters. And, then to bring your attention to their life spans and the normal practice of having other sons and daughters.
What does this have to do with anything they all came after cain was sent away so you just think you can take everything out of time and context to suit your purpose? Cain said he was afraid before Seth was ever born. He was also sent away
You are right about Seth not being born until after Cain's sin. And, if I thought you were a little more open to reason, I would have provided some commentary rather than just quoting a bunch of scriptures (it feels kind of retarded doing that instead of just talking to you like like someone who won't dismiss reason as opinion while asserting cultish doctrine). The Bible does not say that Cain and Able were the first two children. It does not even say that Eve didn't have any other sons after the birth of Able until the death of Able. It only implies that Seth was the first son after Able's death.By the time Cain killed Able, Eve could have had over a 100 children (173 even, if there were no twins), with each of those children having scores of children, and those children having children. Adam could have had great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren by the time Cain killed Eve (if for the first 130 years, there was an average growth rate of 20%, that would be 40 million people when Cain killed Able - and you said there were no other family). Whatever the population growth rate, Cain knew a lot more people were coming along, and he had good reason to fear that some of them might want to punish him for killing Able.The point of what I quoted was to first bring your attention to the fact that Adam had other sons and daughters. And, then to bring your attention to their life spans and the normal practice of having other sons and daughters.
Now that is just plain ignorant and twisting the word to suit your Menes ideas there is no scripture no part of the word that says Cain and Abel were not the first born of Eve that Seth was not Adam and Eve's third child what do you think God was so careful to record the genealogy for and you accuse me of not following the word you are so bent on being right you will call God a liar and fool that he cant record a genealogy right. You think you can just take anything you want out of context out of time and come up with your own conclusions ignoring when ever scripture doesn't suit you. And then pretend to be an expert? you are Amazing
Genesis 5 1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. 6And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: 7And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. 9And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: 10And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died. 12And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel: 13And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: And so on and so on
(Christina;63385)
Now that is just plain ignorant and twisting the word to suit your mens ideas there is no scripture no part of the word that says Cain and Abel were not Adam and Eves first children what do you think God was so careful to record the genology
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
Now that is just plain ignorant and twisting the word to suit your mens ideas there is no scripture no part of the word that says Cain and Abel were not Adam and Eves first children what do you think God was so careful to record the genology
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
(Follower;63387)
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
Your just being untruthful you make a mockery of scripture You should be ashamed but everyone can see for themselves what a foolish thing your doing to Gods word . You would change all scripture before admitting you have no answers without just making things up. You can not change Adams genology line to suit yourself. you just want to be right reguardless of the cost. __________________
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
Your just being untruthful you make a mockery of scripture You should be ashamed but everyone can see for themselves what a foolish thing your doing to Gods word . You would change all scripture before admitting you have no answers without just making things up. You can not change Adams genology line to suit yourself. you just want to be right reguardless of the cost. __________________
(Follower;63384)
You are right about Seth not being born until after Cain's sin. And, if I thought you were a little more open to reason, I would have provided some commentary rather than just quoting a bunch of scriptures (it feels kind of retarded doing that instead of just talking to you like like someone who won't dismiss reason as opinion while asserting cultish doctrine). The Bible does not say that Cain and Able were the first two children. It does not even say that Eve didn't have any other sons after the birth of Able until the death of Able. It only implies that Seth was the first son after Able's death.By the time Cain killed Able, Eve could have had over a 100 children (173 even, if there were no twins), with each of those children having scores of children, and those children having children. Adam could have had great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren by the time Cain killed Eve (if for the first 130 years, there was an average growth rate of 20%, that would be 40 million people when Cain killed Able - and you said there were no other family). Whatever the population growth rate, Cain knew a lot more people were coming along, and he had good reason to fear that some of them might want to punish him for killing Able.The point of what I quoted was to first bring your attention to the fact that Adam had other sons and daughters. And, then to bring your attention to their life spans and the normal practice of having other sons and daughters.
made up scriptures
You are right about Seth not being born until after Cain's sin. And, if I thought you were a little more open to reason, I would have provided some commentary rather than just quoting a bunch of scriptures (it feels kind of retarded doing that instead of just talking to you like like someone who won't dismiss reason as opinion while asserting cultish doctrine). The Bible does not say that Cain and Able were the first two children. It does not even say that Eve didn't have any other sons after the birth of Able until the death of Able. It only implies that Seth was the first son after Able's death.By the time Cain killed Able, Eve could have had over a 100 children (173 even, if there were no twins), with each of those children having scores of children, and those children having children. Adam could have had great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren by the time Cain killed Eve (if for the first 130 years, there was an average growth rate of 20%, that would be 40 million people when Cain killed Able - and you said there were no other family). Whatever the population growth rate, Cain knew a lot more people were coming along, and he had good reason to fear that some of them might want to punish him for killing Able.The point of what I quoted was to first bring your attention to the fact that Adam had other sons and daughters. And, then to bring your attention to their life spans and the normal practice of having other sons and daughters.
made up scriptures
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(Follower;63387)
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
So why aren't the other male children in Adams geneology?
The Bible does not say Cain and Able were the first two children. Even if they were, it does not say that Adam and Eve didn't have lots of children by the time Cain killed Able. You believe that Cain and Able were the only children, until Seth. That is not supported by scripture, but it is a necessary position for you to take to argue that Cain must have gotten his wife from anther race of people, or that Cain had no family to worry about trying to harm him.It's an insane idea that Adam and Eve, two absolutely health adults, only had a couple of children in over a century. Ditto for Cain and Able. Ditto for Seth. Etc.The story of Cain and Able is given and then a single bloodline through Seth is given. The Bible ignores the other brothers and sisters, but to your frustration, it asserts that they had other brothers and sisters. You say God was careful, as if to say He identified every individual born. But, that is not the case.
So why aren't the other male children in Adams geneology?