Prophethood

[Amy]

(tim bennett;16536)
just trying to understand why a muslim, espousing his ideas, would come into a christian room. are they trying to convert? they say they are trying to learn? if i do not want want to play golf i do not take golf lessons. so bless these individuals, so that the word of the lord jesus christ will pierce their hearts. for our god=JESUS CHRIST=loves those who do not love him=so we must do the same..AND YES I POSTED THAT RIGHT=JESUS IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND SIN IS SIN. i guess moses did not sin. nope he did. read the book of job=he even sinned= i would IMHO consider job a better man than Moses. god gave moses a lot of responsibility, but even moses was guilty of one of the worst sins=UNBELIEF. with all he saw and heard of god =HE DOUBTED. JESUS WAS SINLESS=and you can go to that passage in the book of job where job is described as perfect. one huge difference=JESUS IS GOD, AND CAME TO SAVE HIS FLOCK=ONLY GOD HAS THAT AUTHORITY=JESUS IS GOD!!!!!!the author also states later in the book of job that for job to consider himself sinless=well i will quote=job 8 :20=if i justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if i say, that i am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse. ps=has anyone ever been in the chat room, it must be a very scary place? for i have never seen a soul in there! is there a reason for that?
Totally agree brother Tim

Hence proven, they are not hear to learn as when you address them with the root cause i.e. the false teachings about christianity in islam they get in defensive mode. They are wolves disguised in sheeps skin, so truly pointed in bible.Therefore, we must not cease to pick on the wrong teachings of islam about christianity. Having said that, we have lit the lamp that who ever wishes to find the way maybe guided. Otherwise, no need to give explainations to close minded pagans.Lets continue to pour oil in the lamp

:blessyou:

 

[Amy]

(Faithful;16535)
Genesis 15:6.6.And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Romans 4:66.Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,Psalm 32:1-2. 1.Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. 2.Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. Galatians 3:6 (King James Version) 6.Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
Dear brother Faithful, no need to through away pearls

 

[Faithful]

(Amy;16538)
Dear brother Faithful, no need to through away pearls

I am sister not brother.

:angel9:Not throwing away pearls. But one must never let the enemy fool us into thinking that God cannot reach even the most hardened hearts against his truth.Love Faithful.xx

 

[Amy]

(thesuperjag;16525)
Actually Yahshua never sinned. He never once broke His Father's Commandment...In fact he fulfilled scriptures...and the prohesy in His flesh time is fulfilled. Actually ammuslim, all of God's prophet still sinned whether they did it intentionally or not.Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.The Word of God says that only 1 person that didn't sin and that is the Word of God. (Yahshua) Adam was called a son of God (Luke 3:38) but he still sinned. If you say that other people besides the Son of God never sinned. You are making the Living God a liar.I John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.I John 1:10 - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.And for your understanding. Mankind can never say the truth witout Him. And we can't gain knowledge by our own understanding.Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
My dear little brother Jag

The pagans are breeded with wrong teachings. You may feed them with God's word (explain them) with a silver spoon but watch out they don't bite your hand.

 

[Amy]

(Faithful;16539)
I am sister not brother.

:angel9:
Oops, Bless you then, my loving sister

 

[ammuslim]

(Amy;16537)
Totally agree brother Tim

Hence proven, they are not hear to learn as when you address them with the root cause i.e. the false teachings about christianity in islam they get in defensive mode. They are wolves disguised in sheeps skin, so truly pointed in bible.Therefore, we must not cease to pick on the wrong teachings of islam about christianity. Having said that, we have lit the lamp that who ever wishes to find the way maybe guided. Otherwise, no need to give explainations to close minded pagans.Lets continue to pour oil in the lamp

:blessyou:
To all honest Christians here, don’t you consider the above statement of Amy to be plain attack on Muslims? Salamammusli

 

[Jordan]

(ammuslim)
(Amy)
Totally agree brother Tim

Hence proven, they are not hear to learn as when you address them with the root cause i.e. the false teachings about christianity in islam they get in defensive mode. They are wolves disguised in sheeps skin, so truly pointed in bible.Therefore, we must not cease to pick on the wrong teachings of islam about christianity. Having said that, we have lit the lamp that who ever wishes to find the way maybe guided. Otherwise, no need to give explainations to close minded pagans.Lets continue to pour oil in the lamp

:blessyou:
To all honest Christians here, don’t you consider the above statement of Amy to be plain attack on Muslims?SalamammuslimActually If I was a nonChristian, then yes and no...But because I am a Christian, a lie can not affect us, And all religions will attack the Living Word and the Living God. The truth needs to be out. We can't just let a lie get away with it and steal more souls.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.

 

[ammuslim]

(thesuperjag;16715)
Actually If I was a nonChristian, then yes and no...But because I am a Christian, a lie can not affect us, And all religions will attack the Living Word and the Living God. The truth needs to be out. We can't just let a lie get away with it and steal more souls.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.
You can do that in the right place brother, if the admins allowed "exposing lies about Islam" and established a new forum to serve this cause, then I will shut my mouth and follow the rules or just leave the board if i found nothing to new to offer. Salamammuslim

 

[Amy]

(ammuslim;16703)
To all honest Christians here, don’t you consider the above statement of Amy to be plain attack on Muslims? Salamammusli
This is indeed a plain attack on Islam, wake up !And will continue doing so

 

[Amy]

(ammuslim;16717)
You can do that in the right place brother, if the admins allowed "exposing lies about Islam" and established a new forum to serve this cause, then I will shut my mouth and follow the rules or just leave the board if i found nothing to new to offer. Salamammuslim
We can safely do it here, as you can see this has been going on so if management had an issue with this we would have been notified. If you choose to leave the board, I have full understanding for you. Otherwise you are more than welcome to sit and face the facts.

 

[Faithful]

(ammuslim;16703)
To all honest Christians here, don’t you consider the above statement of Amy to be plain attack on Muslims? Salamammusli
To be honest, I think your original post was more offensive even if not intentionally so. You must take into consideration the fact that our faith does not rest on the words of a man born about 500 years ago. Unoffensively if our faith was like yours and just left to deciding on the words of a man.Then clearly Jesus has the better track record than Mahomet.But ours is not left to deciding the truth of words.The words we believer bring God and his grace to us. I am sure you have good intentions when believing your faith. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.When you come to Christ you know the truth and this sets us free. Even to see how you took some of your replies from websites. But if you had known the bible you would have realised that man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. So the Christian is spiritually alive receiving that life from the word of God. Whilst you are being starved of the truth and do not know God. You cannot listen because your too busy searching the net to attack Christianity. Eventually if you keep attacking you will see you are fighting a losing battle. Because you have to fight to defend your faith. Where as we have peace because we are sure of whom we trust and his ability to supply all we need spiritually and physically.The more you attack the more battles you lose, till you realise you are alone without God and getting annoyed and angry. Your faith cannot survive attacking the truth. You will either continue lying to yourself or you will surrender to the true Messiah and find peace.love Faithful.xx

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Amy)
This is indeed a plain attack on Islam, wake up !And will continue doing so.We can safely do it here, as you can see this has been going on so if management had an issue with this we would have been notified.
I don't know that Jesus though the think like the way you said above ?As the first i come and joined here, it felt so warm and kindly, but i don't know why, since you come a board, I felt became the otherwise. But however, i wouldn't say what you have done that's because of your teaching, but it's because the personal in the christian who has different head and mine, also the interpretation and attitude one to each others.Well at least you are not like the first guys i meet before you.Event i sometimes disagree with others members, i can still felt warming from them rather then you are. Eventhough like that, i respect you right for writing in the thread, eventhought what you wrote i don't respect some of them.
If you choose to leave the board, I have full understanding for you. Otherwise you are more than welcome to sit and face the facts.
I wonder, what is your the parameter with what you said with facts ?Best regards,Ricky WWallahu a'lam.

 

[ammuslim]

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.(Faithful;16738)
To be honest, I think your original post was more offensive even if not intentionally so. You must take into consideration the fact that our faith does not rest on the words of a man born about 500 years ago. Unoffensively if our faith was like yours and just left to deciding on the words of a man.Then clearly Jesus has the better track record than Mahomet.But ours is not left to deciding the truth of words.The words we believer bring God and his grace to us. I am sure you have good intentions when believing your faith. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.When you come to Christ you know the truth and this sets us free. Even to see how you took some of your replies from websites. But if you had known the bible you would have realised that man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. So the Christian is spiritually alive receiving that life from the word of God. Whilst you are being starved of the truth and do not know God. You cannot listen because your too busy searching the net to attack Christianity. Eventually if you keep attacking you will see you are fighting a losing battle. Because you have to fight to defend your faith. Where as we have peace because we are sure of whom we trust and his ability to supply all we need spiritually and physically.The more you attack the more battles you lose, till you realise you are alone without God and getting annoyed and angry. Your faith cannot survive attacking the truth. You will either continue lying to yourself or you will surrender to the true Messiah and find peace.love Faithful.xx
Ok, I want you to point out a single word in any of my posts where I attacked Christians or Christianity in general? all what i did is that i've explained some Biblical verses as i personally have understood it. but where did I attack anybody? Thanks for inviting me to accept your faith, but as I’ve said earlier, I still need to be more convinced with facts rather than words. I know how you feel when you hear the name Muhammad pbuh, but what I am requesting here is that you guys forget about him for a moment and try to preach your own faith to me with little respect for what I believe, once you achieve such behavior, then I will be able to listen to you, otherwise we will just be wasting each other time. What do you all think?Salamammuslim

 

[Amy]

(Ricky W;16741)
I don't know that Jesus though the think like the way you said above ?
Dear Ricky,I don't think I need to learn what Jesus said from you as you yourself don't believe in bible and hence it's teachings.Jesus never said compromise with sin and evil, that is my parameter.Having said that, I am glad you feel welcomed by other members who are people of faith. The only difference is that they don't know much about Islam and that's why I am litting the lamps which I understand has been a hurting experience for you but truth is bitter my friend.

 

[Amy]

(ammuslim;16742)
all what i did is that i've explained some Biblical verses as i personally have understood it.
And I am doing the same (ammuslim;16742)
Thanks for inviting me to accept your faith, but as I’ve said earlier, I still need to be more convinced with facts rather than words. I know how you feel when you hear the name Muhammad pbuh, but what I am requesting here is that you guys forget about him for a moment and try to preach your own faith to me with little respect for what I believe, once you achieve such behavior, then I will be able to listen to you, otherwise we will just be wasting each other time. What do you all think?
In your introdution thread, you clearly state that you are not here to find the truth but just to gain knowledge. please refer to your reply to Jag.http://www.christianityboard.com/peace-everyone-t3671.htmlEither way, you are free to ask questions that may increase your knowledge.On the other hand if you would have searched for truth, it would be for your own good. You see in christianity we don't believe in converting people to get sawab (reward). Our reward is believing in salvation.

 

[Faithful]

(ammuslim;16742)
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.Ok, I want you to point out a single word in any of my posts where I attacked Christians or Christianity in general? all what i did is that i've explained some Biblical verses as i personally have understood it. but where did I attack anybody? Thanks for inviting me to accept your faith, but as I’ve said earlier, I still need to be more convinced with facts rather than words. I know how you feel when you hear the name Muhammad pbuh, but what I am requesting here is that you guys forget about him for a moment and try to preach your own faith to me with little respect for what I believe, once you achieve such behavior, then I will be able to listen to you, otherwise we will just be wasting each other time. What do you all think?Salamammuslim
You came here to try and reassure yourself that your faith is correct and asking questions to see if the answers match those already given to you.I know why you are here and what you hope to gain from being here.Whereas we do not need teaching about your faith, no man told me what I have just told you. Your faith stands on what you are told both about your faith and that of others. We Christians do not need to teach others what you will say or how to reply to it. You see God gives us the words to say when we need to say them. Tell me I am wrong about the part written in green. Then let us see if you answer truthfully. Love Faithful.

 

[Ricky W]

A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Amy)
Dear Ricky,I don't think I need to learn what Jesus said from you as you yourself don't believe in bible and hence it's teachings.
If that the case so be it. All I know from christian before was not attacking everyone for any case, event Jesus peacefull teach is ask for his followers to forgive theire enemies. And now i know from you, that it's allowed for us to attack others without confirm first.
Jesus never said compromise with sin and evil, that is my parameter.
What sin are you talking about, and what evil are you talking about, have you ever confirm what it said ?
Having said that, I am glad you feel welcomed by other members who are people of faith. The only difference is that they don't know much about Islam and that's why I am litting the lamps which I understand has been a hurting experience for you but truth is bitter my friend.
I'm also glad if you can glad because of it. Yes amy, i will try to be patience event that was not true from what I know in Islam teach and knowledge, event you have to lie from what you considered as truth. I'm here not want to looking enemies, i'm looking friend. So i will try my best to ask with polite, without forcing what i understand, if i really curious on the meaning, i always asking permission to every one who want to discuss it base on my understanding from what it says in the bible (before discuss with you).But i guess this kind of ways useless infront of you (correct me if i'm wrong).I want to looking friends, event we are different with our guiding of life. I don't want to looking hatred between other(I'll do my best). I want to seek for understanding for each other rather then attacking each other.So if that considered as sin nor evil, so be it for you, but i'm not.Sorry if my written very bad, hopely you got my point rather then negative thinking on it.Best regards,Ricky WWallahu a'lam.

 

[Amy]

(Ricky W;16750)
A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimIf that the case so be it. All I know from christian before was not attacking everyone for any case, event Jesus peacefull teach is ask for his followers to forgive theire enemies. And now i know from you, that it's allowed for us to attack others without confirm first.What sin are you talking about, and what evil are you talking about, have you ever confirm what it said ?I'm also glad if you can glad because of it. Yes amy, i will try to be patience event that was not true from what I know in Islam teach and knowledge, event you have to lie from what you considered as truth. I'm here not want to looking enemies, i'm looking friend. So i will try my best to ask with polite, without forcing what i understand, if i really curious on the meaning, i always asking permission to every one who want to discuss it base on my understanding from what it says in the bible (before discuss with you).But i guess this kind of ways useless infront of you (correct me if i'm wrong).I want to looking friends, event we are different with our guiding of life. I don't want to looking hatred between other(I'll do my best). I want to seek for understanding for each other rather then attacking each other.So if that considered as sin nor evil, so be it for you, but i'm not.Sorry if my written very bad, hopely you got my point rather then negative thinking on it.Best regards,Ricky WWallahu a'lam.
Ah, Ricky ... God bless you !

 

[ammuslim]

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.

And I am doing the same Thanks Amy, I am content with what I have, I really want to ask questions, but I need to feel more welcome here. You don’t treat your gust by pointing out faults in his or her way of life. And so I require that you please stick to your faith and no need to bash others. That is my simple request. As for my questions, they are mostly regarding Trinity, I will start new threads to ask and hopefully I get some satisfactory answers. Salam.ammuslim

 

[ammuslim]

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
You came here to try and reassure yourself that your faith is correct and asking questions to see if the answers match those already given to you.
I am sorry, but you are wrong. I do not need to reassure to myself about Islam. I’ve made it clear that I am very satisfied with what I have. I’ve come here simply to GAIN knowledge, because I already have learned a lot about your faith during my stay with my wife in Philippines. So I don’t need reassurance about Islam, I only need to learn from you guys.
I know why you are here and what you hope to gain from being here.Whereas we do not need teaching about your faith, no man told me what I have just told you. Your faith stands on what you are told both about your faith and that of others. We Christians do not need to teach others what you will say or how to reply to it. You see God gives us the words to say when we need to say them. Tell me I am wrong about the part written in green. Then let us see if you answer truthfully.
My response to your green lines been answered already. If I needed to preach Islam, I will not come here; I have my own website to do that job, I go to the Islamic centre near my house to preach to those who need to know about Islam, I travel miles away for that cause etc.. but coming here was by chance, I browes a lot of Christians forums online, but I found that this is the only board that does not have "a bashing forum of other faiths", it simply states that we as Non Christians might ask questions, and so I joined the forums immediately. So don’t judge my intention and let us start our healthy discussion.Salamammuslim