Hi Wayne,I like the weight of empirical evidence you put together in your reply.Thank you for your response!A point I wish to make, though, is that many scientists, physicists, and other highly educated men have seen all this and seen it all in more detail than you and I have. Yet, they are atheists and completely closed to simple logic. Sure, the Bible revelation tells us about the majesty of God and of His many attributes which you can see with your eyes.Carl Sagan, world famous physicist, studied the depths of the cosmos for his lifetime, until he died recently still denying the existence of God.A simple logical exploration can demonstrate his error. If one were to ask him, "Could there ever have been a time when there was nothing?" And he answers that he is not responsible, as a scientist, for that investigation, (this actually did take place in a conversation the Dr. R.C. Sproul (noted evangelist and author of over 50 books on theology and philosophy). Dr. Sproul pointed out to him that as a scientist he IS responsible for the origin of the blob of matter that he claimed exploded into the stars and planets and the matter of the universe. He can't stop there. He has to at least account for the cause of this matter having existence. Could something come from nothing? Of course not! The Law of Contradiction says that a thing cannot NOT BE and Be at the same time and in the same relationship. That's the kind of thread I had in mind when I posted this topic.The conclusion Must be that there has always been a Self-Existent Being from whom all being, animate and inanimate, came, etc.Thanks, again, for your interest in this topic,waynemlj