Psychics and Mediums?

[Dave L]

Yes, judgement to those who mock tongues, not Jews.

Other Tongues was a sign of judgment against Israel. Looming in 65-70 AD.


“The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;” (Deuteronomy 28:49) (KJV 1900)

“Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.” (Jeremiah 5:15) (KJV 1900)

“For with stammering lips and another tongue Will he speak to this people.” (Isaiah 28:11) (KJV 1900)

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You are changing the meaning of the text. One must share before understanding can bear fruit.

You are completely misinterpreting tongues to be understood by the speaker, when the Scripture says the mind is unfruitful, only the spirit is edified. Read it again. And maybe again, as this is crazy.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Other Tongues was a sign of judgment against Israel. Looming in 65-70 AD.


“The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;” (Deuteronomy 28:49) (KJV 1900)

“Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.” (Jeremiah 5:15) (KJV 1900)

“For with stammering lips and another tongue Will he speak to this people.” (Isaiah 28:11) (KJV 1900)

Nope. You're wrong with a misguided preconception. It's actually sad that you are bringing the judgment of the sign of tongues down upon yourself!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Just as the Pharisees did with their oral traditions.

No, they are DOING what the Word says. Things you won't do out of ignorance.

37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

 

[Dave L]

No, they are DOING what the Word says. Things you won't do out of ignorance.

37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

The pharisees when by their oral traditions, which are no different from today's oral pronouncements falsely called prophecies.

 

[Dave L]

Nope. You're wrong with a misguided preconception. It's actually sad that you are bringing the judgment of the sign of tongues down upon yourself!

If you stick with the written word, tongues served several purposes. One was in that they spelled doom for unbelieving Jews.

 

[Dave L]

You are completely misinterpreting tongues to be understood by the speaker, when the Scripture says the mind is unfruitful, only the spirit is edified. Read it again. And maybe again, as this is crazy.

The understanding is unfruitful = the understanding exists. But it doesn't bear fruit unless you interpret so others can share in it.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

The understanding is unfruitful = the understanding exists. But it doesn't bear fruit unless you interpret so others can share in it.

It exists in your spirit, not in you mind.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

If you stick with the written word, tongues served several purposes. One was in that they spelled doom for unbelieving Jews.

No it didn't! Where do you get this malarkey?

 

[Dave L]

It exists in your spirit, not in you mind.

Regardless, you push people away from scripture while I direct them to scripture. What gives?

 

[Dave L]

No it didn't! Where do you get this malarkey?

Other Tongues was a sign of judgment against Israel. Looming in 65-70 AD.

“The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;” (Deuteronomy 28:49) (KJV 1900)

“Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.” (Jeremiah 5:15) (KJV 1900)

“For with stammering lips and another tongue Will he speak to this people.” (Isaiah 28:11) (KJV 1900)

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Regardless, you push people away from scripture while I direct them to scripture. What gives?

You're lying. I quoted two scriptures, and you couldn't understand them. That is the problem. Your preconceived ideas make you see things that don't exist. The Scriptures were very plain, except to you.

 

[Dave L]

You're lying. I quoted two scriptures, and you couldn't understand them. That is the problem. Your preconceived ideas make you see things that don't exist. The Scriptures were very plain, except to you.

You say God speaks where he does not. I say he speaks through scripture.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Other Tongues was a sign of judgment against Israel. Looming in 65-70 AD.

“The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;” (Deuteronomy 28:49) (KJV 1900)

“Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.” (Jeremiah 5:15) (KJV 1900)

“For with stammering lips and another tongue Will he speak to this people.” (Isaiah 28:11) (KJV 1900)

And you think that is speaking in tongues. ROFL NO! It that is about Jesus, not tongues, except in the TYPE of SIGN that both Jesus and tongues is to unbelievers, whether Jew or Gentile. The Corinthians were Gentiles.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You say God speaks where he does not. I say he speaks through scripture.

I referred you to two SCRIPTURES!!!

 

[Stranger]

“One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.” (1 Corinthians 14:4–5) (NASB95)

Understanding edifies. = The one speaking in tongues understood what they said.

Unless one interprets the church is not edified. The one with the gift of tongues doesn't necessarily have the gift of interpretation of tongues. Else there would be no reason to pray for one to interpret. See (1 Cor. 12:10) (1 Cor. 14:5, 13, 27, 28).

Understanding edifies the Church. The believer with the gift edifies himself in the use of the gift.

Stranger

 

[Dave L]

And you think that is speaking in tongues. ROFL NO! It that is about Jesus, not tongues, except in the TYPE of SIGN that both Jesus and tongues is to unbelievers, whether Jew or Gentile. The Corinthians were Gentiles.

When understood, tongues were God's word. But to the wicked unbelieving Jews, they were OT jargon for looming judgement.

 

[Dave L]

Unless one interprets the church is not edified. The one with the gift of tongues doesn't necessarily have the gift of interpretation of tongues. Else there would be no reason to pray for one to interpret. See (1 Cor. 12:10) (1 Cor. 14:5, 13, 27, 28).

Understanding edifies the Church. The believer with the gift edifies himself in the use of the gift.

Stranger

But the speaker edified himself before interpreting to the church. Because he understood what he said.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Unless one interprets the church is not edified. The one with the gift of tongues doesn't necessarily have the gift of interpretation of tongues. Else there would be no reason to pray for one to interpret. See (1 Cor. 12:10) (1 Cor. 14:5, 13, 27, 28).

Understanding edifies the Church. The believer with the gift edifies himself in the use of the gift.

Stranger

Dave is saying that the person speaking in tongues understands what he is saying - the opposite of what Scripture says. He twists the Scriptures to try to say something it doesn't. That is a Leviathan spirit at work - the twisting serpent.

 

[Stranger]

But the speaker edified himself before interpreting to the church. Because he understood what he said.

No. As I said, what need would there be for a gift of interpretation if the one speaking in tongues understood what was said?

Stranger