(kriss;42662)
We need to have a conversation about this dearest ArnieI do absoulty agree with you to a point that morning to evening is the rule to follow with time as Bulinger also points out, but Im not convinced that the creation Week can be held to the time of manAs it (time as we know it)did not exsist from the beginning I rather lean toward the fact that the one day morning to evening in Genesis creation week are Gods Days.Normally when "Do not be ignorant" is said a great mystery or important knowledge is being revealed unto us 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.So if creation week is measured in Gods days each day, morning to evening, is equal to 1000 human years making the creation week 7000 years long but changing little as to the time line of Adam to today. looking forward to your thoughts.
Hi kriss (and everybody)Here is a bit more of why I go for a 6 day Creator as opposed to Darwinism or old world theories. Many thanks.The short 6 days of creation are required because of the inherent harmony designed into nature. All the plants , animals , water life , seasons , have to be in place at the same time to function as designed. 6 days of creation and then God rested on the seventh day. He instructed his people (and us) to also rest on the seventh day , this is repeated over and over later in the bible. They are literal days. They are nothing else. We are to work 6 days and rest on the seventh just as God created in 6 days and rested on the seventh. No other interpretation is possible. To do otherwise we must also only have Sabbath every 6000 years. The store owners would love it. I would not. 2Peter3:8 (With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, ) If anyone wishes to use this to show that 6 days of creation can equal 6000 years fine , but just for a minute. Using those rules of interpretation I can then claim the privilege of being able to use the very next sentence (and a thousand years are like a day) and we arrive right back at 6 literal days. These claims of 1= 1000 have no merit. They never have. Furthermore to Use Peter in such a manner is completely out of context. He is addressing the impatience of believers who await the return of Christ and tells them not to interpret it as slowness. Even today 2000 years have now gone by (in our measurement) , but we also are not to interpret it as slowness. Thousands of years of time has no relevance to God. Time is not a function of his environment. He is timeless. It is called eternity. Eternity is a dimension where there is no time factor. Time references are given for us because time is a function of our location . Time-Space-Matter are interactive functions in our known universe. Albert Einstein was the first to show this just within the last 90 years of modern science. I find it interesting (and so did Albert Einstein) that the first words of Genesis cover these 3 items of higher physics ... in the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter). No author on his own could make this stuff up. Moses wrote it down over 3000 years ago. The words of Genesis are accurate as written. All of them. Even the very first sentence.For these and many other reasons I accept the Genesis record and am unable to accept Darwinism theories. Furthermore , Darwinism is bleeding all over the place recently , especially within DNA and Gnome studies. 70% of modern scientists no longer believe in Darwinism. They have difficulty admitting this publicly and generally they do not. One of the remaining options would have to include a Creator, This they also do not want. For this reason they have come up with the new slogan of "intelligent design". This is the origin of the new slogan. On a positive note , it is a jump ahead of the old monkey-people story.Many thanks to all.Arnie M.
We need to have a conversation about this dearest ArnieI do absoulty agree with you to a point that morning to evening is the rule to follow with time as Bulinger also points out, but Im not convinced that the creation Week can be held to the time of manAs it (time as we know it)did not exsist from the beginning I rather lean toward the fact that the one day morning to evening in Genesis creation week are Gods Days.Normally when "Do not be ignorant" is said a great mystery or important knowledge is being revealed unto us 2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.So if creation week is measured in Gods days each day, morning to evening, is equal to 1000 human years making the creation week 7000 years long but changing little as to the time line of Adam to today. looking forward to your thoughts.
Hi kriss (and everybody)Here is a bit more of why I go for a 6 day Creator as opposed to Darwinism or old world theories. Many thanks.The short 6 days of creation are required because of the inherent harmony designed into nature. All the plants , animals , water life , seasons , have to be in place at the same time to function as designed. 6 days of creation and then God rested on the seventh day. He instructed his people (and us) to also rest on the seventh day , this is repeated over and over later in the bible. They are literal days. They are nothing else. We are to work 6 days and rest on the seventh just as God created in 6 days and rested on the seventh. No other interpretation is possible. To do otherwise we must also only have Sabbath every 6000 years. The store owners would love it. I would not. 2Peter3:8 (With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, ) If anyone wishes to use this to show that 6 days of creation can equal 6000 years fine , but just for a minute. Using those rules of interpretation I can then claim the privilege of being able to use the very next sentence (and a thousand years are like a day) and we arrive right back at 6 literal days. These claims of 1= 1000 have no merit. They never have. Furthermore to Use Peter in such a manner is completely out of context. He is addressing the impatience of believers who await the return of Christ and tells them not to interpret it as slowness. Even today 2000 years have now gone by (in our measurement) , but we also are not to interpret it as slowness. Thousands of years of time has no relevance to God. Time is not a function of his environment. He is timeless. It is called eternity. Eternity is a dimension where there is no time factor. Time references are given for us because time is a function of our location . Time-Space-Matter are interactive functions in our known universe. Albert Einstein was the first to show this just within the last 90 years of modern science. I find it interesting (and so did Albert Einstein) that the first words of Genesis cover these 3 items of higher physics ... in the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter). No author on his own could make this stuff up. Moses wrote it down over 3000 years ago. The words of Genesis are accurate as written. All of them. Even the very first sentence.For these and many other reasons I accept the Genesis record and am unable to accept Darwinism theories. Furthermore , Darwinism is bleeding all over the place recently , especially within DNA and Gnome studies. 70% of modern scientists no longer believe in Darwinism. They have difficulty admitting this publicly and generally they do not. One of the remaining options would have to include a Creator, This they also do not want. For this reason they have come up with the new slogan of "intelligent design". This is the origin of the new slogan. On a positive note , it is a jump ahead of the old monkey-people story.Many thanks to all.Arnie M.