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Your question is a total lie. How does quoting Scripture make someone 'angry and bitter'?
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Are you speaking for JW's now? Let them deny it. No JW here has denied it.
"Do JW's believe you are gods who will rule over non JW's in God's eternal Kingdom?"
Patrick1966
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You are FILLED with hatred and contempt for your brothers and sisters in Christ. You do not engage in honest and fair discussions. Your anger and hatred blind you. Perhaps that's why so few are willing to engage with you.
Patrick1966
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I'm simply asking you to cite the official sources that say that the JW teaches that its adherents will be "gods" ruling over other people.
You are upset because I quote Jesus. Universalism is Satanic leading people to Hell fire.
Please stop LYING about me! Quoting Jesus is not hatred! It is LOVE for Jesus! Why does quoting Jesus upset you? Quoting Jesus is LOVE for others! Even when He mentions the "everlasting fire" that you deny.
Revelation 21
All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
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Patrick1966
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Satan LOVES the Universalism doctrine! It's a great way to lead people to Hell fire. So why are you defending JW's? They deny Universalism.
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Patrick1966
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But you said EVERYONE will be saved. I'm not angry but He might be VERY angry at Universalists leading people to Hell.
Luke 13
23 Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?" And He said to them,
24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
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"Do JW's believe you are gods who will rule over non JW's in God's eternal Kingdom?"
No answers from JW's yet!
No answers from JW's yet!
@Patrick1966
Do you believe in universalism..........that all folks practicing and praying to some kind of god will all be accepted by MY GOD ?
Do you believe in universalism..........that all folks practicing and praying to some kind of god will all be accepted by MY GOD ?
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Patrick1966
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28 esv
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
This is NO answer!
If your trying to use the above scripture for validation of belief in universalism, maybe read the word of God in the Spirit !
Nvm don't bother answering. I've went back & read your post in other threads........bye.
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Revelation 20
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
So much for Universalism!
Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that the present world order, which they believe to be under the control of Satan, will be ended by a direct intervention of Jehovah (God), who will use Jesus Christ to fully establish his heavenly government over earth, destroying existing human governments and non-Witnesses, and creating a cleansed society of true worshippers who will live forever. They do not believe that they are gods who will rule over non-Jehovah’s Witnesses in God’s eternal Kingdom. Instead, they see themselves as a worldwide brotherhood that transcends national boundaries and national and ethnic loyalties.
They believe only Jehovah's Witnesses shall be saved!
Behold
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Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus was created by Jehovah as the archangel Michael before the physical world existed, and is a lesser, though mighty, god.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that when Jesus was born on earth, he was a mere human and not God in human flesh.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus was resurrected spiritually from the dead, but not physically in a body
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the second coming was an invisible, spiritual event that occurred in the year 1914.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal cosmic or life force of God and not a distinct person.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe there are two peoples of God: (1) the Anointed Class (144,000) will live in heaven and rule with Christ; and (2) the “other sheep” (all other believers) will live forever on a paradise earth.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe hell is not a place of eternal suffering but is rather the common grave of humankind. The wicked are annihilated—snuffed out of conscious existence forever.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that when Jesus was born on earth, he was a mere human and not God in human flesh.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus was resurrected spiritually from the dead, but not physically in a body
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the second coming was an invisible, spiritual event that occurred in the year 1914.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal cosmic or life force of God and not a distinct person.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe there are two peoples of God: (1) the Anointed Class (144,000) will live in heaven and rule with Christ; and (2) the “other sheep” (all other believers) will live forever on a paradise earth.
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe hell is not a place of eternal suffering but is rather the common grave of humankind. The wicked are annihilated—snuffed out of conscious existence forever.
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