Hello again!
My last replies to amadeus in blue.
Errr... not quite! The Word of God is alive! The Bible has the potential, but until it is injected with the Spirit in a person it is dead, just another book on the shelf
Never! The Bible is not just another book on the shelf.
Since I am not a Catholic , I pay little attention to what the Pope has to say. You should read my posts more carefully...
What's wrong with you? Why are you writing that so big? Where did I say you were a Catholic? You are guilty of what you accuse me of, and that is needing to read more carefully.
Your premise may be a good one, but you should be more concerned with following Jesus yourself than with attempting to tear someone else apart. Neither you or I can change a person who is error so that he will follow God better. As Paul put it:
So you have made the judgement that the Catholics here are hopeless? And falsely accusing me again? You are the one who needs to be more concerned with following Jesus instead of attempting to tear someone else apart. You keep falsely accusing....I can see what you are all about when you do that.
Even Paul was still seeing through a "glass darkly", so how is it that you or I or Marksmen or Aspen can see clearly enough to always be right when giving directions about God to others. The only time and way that we can is when and if we have the Holy Ghost in us and we are following the lead of the Holy Ghost. Man's problem too often is that he gets so full of himself, that he plunges ahead on his on stumbling blindly supposedly for God, when he has either not learned to recognise the Master's voice or he is moving forward too fast to wait on the Lord to have his strength in God renewed as needed.
You really don't sound as if you know God at all.
Why do you argue me off the top of your head and not support your beliefs or conclusion with scriptures. You say what I said is not biblical, but you gave not a single verse to show me. I am really a big Bible supporter. As I have already said 3 or 4 times on this thread, I am not a Catholic . Al of my beliefs, I hope, have come from scripture by means of the Holy Ghost. You may not agree with me on every point and that is OK, but at least read carefully what I say and then attempt to give scriptural support for any disagreement.
I know you are not a Catholic, you keep saying it over again. I gave scripture. Why don't you give scripture that says what you say....you know, what you say about the Bible being a dead book? Or about apostle Paul being the cause of Mark, John and Barnabus' death?
If I do not, it is not because I do not reading the Bible and talking to God daily. Even so, sometimes I know that I may be wrong .
Anyone who is not already an overcomer as Jesus was an overcomer [see John 16:33] and says that he is never wrong is certainly a liar. The real difficulty is that when we are wrong and thus lying a about it we usually do not even know it ourselves, until when and if God reveals it to us. [Consider here II Thess 2:11]. Remember that what Jesus overcame was His own world of the flesh in which He walked for 33½ years. He did other things besides overcoming His own flesh, but for any of those things to have the full meaning that God intended for them to have, Jesus being tempted in every point as we are, had to be an overcomer of all the obstacles that men must overcome to be able to see God face to face. He did it! We may be in process toward that goal with the Spirit of God working in us, but not many have as yet reached the goal. All of can block God out whenever we want and too often we do!
Then do what God says! Stop judging me and telling me to stop talking about what I know is the Truth. You come on here and try to tell me what is right and wrong about me personally, things you know nothing about, but what is a hypocrite? Do you not tell me to stop doing something, when you in fact do worse? You tell me to stop doing what the Bible says to do. You go against the Word of God. You do nothing but attack me personally. If you don't want to debate, discuss and argue....then what on earth are you doing in a debate and apologetics group? Duh!
If you do not see everything that God is showing and hear everyting that God is saying then you cannot always move in His direction... and you will not know when your are in error until, [when and if He does], He lets you know. Partially vision or partial hearing will not gets us where God wants us to be unless we are fully submitted to God. Fully submitted people never sin. We do not have to know that we are telling or living a falsehood in order for it to be a lie. This is why as less than an overcomer can never walk alone in God's Way!
I am also talking about men teaching things wrong about what God says! According to some sources there are not less than 30,000 Christian denominations all supposedly BIble based, but they are holding and teaching a mutitude of opposing doctrines based on that same Bible. Isn't it likely that some, if not all, of them are telling lies, at least, in part, even if not purposely? We are we to presume based on our tiny bit of knowledge that the Catholic Church or any one church is more in the wrong than another? Who can really know these things, but God alone?
Read the Bible! If you still can't tell what the Truth is---then stand back! And let others speak about what they want. Even the Catholics are free to do that. Stop trying to stop me. Again, what on earth are you doing in this group? Strange....
If anyone with whom you speak is already condemned as your words would seem to indicate, why do you bother to continue condemning them? Aren't they then condemned already or did Jesus lie? Unlike the rest of us, Jesus never lied. Sharing what God has given us and discussing our differences with someone who wants to discuss them with you is one thing, but to condemn them is quite another, isn't it? Gdo already spoke it once and repetition is not required,
You are something else. Do I not spend a lot of time trying to explain carefully to the Catholics here? Yes I do! A lot of my time and patience! Did I not post scripture to them? Yes, and I posted scripture about coming out of her. How is that condemning someone? You lie about me. You have condemned them what you said in your post here.
You are having a hard time with the truth. Why is that? Are you practicing some falseness yourself? Is it that you have read from other Christians that one or more of your beliefs are false? I think you have been exposed.
Now since you have tried to slander apostle Paul, I'm done talking with you.