Questions...

[ScottA]

Why does God hold me responsible for another man's sin who lived thousands of years ago (Rom_5:12-21)?

Because all living are born "according to their kind." In our case, according to sinful Adam.

 

[theefaith]

There are a couple of reasons:

• Because all things are revealed, both good and evil before the Judgement, including those by and against Christians.

• Because Christians are His body which suffered and was sacrificed for sins.

Christ suffers thru is church?
Vicariously?

 

[ScottA]

Christ suffers thru is church?
Vicariously?

We are His body.

 

[theefaith]

We are His body.

i agree

just making sure

he also teaches all nations thru his body the church! Matt 28:19

we must be taught!

not read and make up your own doctrine
Not I am the only arbiter of truth
Lk 1:4 acts 8:31 etc.

 

[ScottA]

he also teaches all nations thru his body the church! Matt 28:19

we must be taught!

not read and make up your own doctrine
Not I am the only arbiter of truth
Lk 1:4 acts 8:31 etc.

It is not good to be so agenda driven. Do you not know that being so pro church is pro man, rather than pro God?

Luke 12:12
For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”​

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.​

1 Corinthians 2:13
These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.​

 

[theefaith]

It is not good to be so agenda driven. Do you not know that being so pro church is pro man, rather than pro God?

Luke 12:12
For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”​

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.​

1 Corinthians 2:13
These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.​

it’s His church!
His kingdom!
The HS teaches the apostles Jn 16:13 who teach us Matt 28:19

 

[ScottA]

it’s His church!
His kingdom!
The HS teaches the apostles Jn 16:13 who teach us Matt 28:19

You are not hearing, not even hearing yourself:

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19
​

It does not say the church is to "teach us" and create a hierarchy--it says that His disciples are to make "all" people like them. In other words, just as the verses that I gave you say--all people in the church are to become teachers, to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth, by the Holy Spirit--just as Jesus had done with the apostles.

 

[theefaith]

You are not hearing, not even hearing yourself:

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19
​

It does not say the church is to "teach us" and create a hierarchy--it says that His disciples are to make "all" people like them. In other words, just as the verses that I gave you say--all people in the church are to become teachers, to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth, by the Holy Spirit--just as Jesus had done with the apostles.

Matthew 28:19
King James Version

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

[ScottA]

Matthew 28:19
King James Version

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That is not the whole counsel of God, and a matter of translation, for He also said:

If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples John 8​

 

[theefaith]

Matthew 28:19
King James Version

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Christ created the hierarchy
No only the apostles are to teach authoritatively

the people must be taught!
Lk 1:4 Matt 28:19 acts 1:8 acts 8:31

Unity of faith can only have one arbiter of truth and the same faith!

Who is the arbiter of truth!

You can decide.
You can decide what is true.
You can decide what is truth.
You can decide right and wrong.

Not one of these are found in scripture!

Found in scripture!
Taught is found 79 times
Instructed is found 19
Instruction is found 33


Jn 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…

Matt 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

1 Tim 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
matt 18:17

Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5