Rapture ... soon?

[Dave Watchman]

Today is the 22nd of September 2025. Did the rapture take place yet so far?

I guess if you had to ask, you weren't a part of it.

They didn't see the sliver of the moon in Jerusalem today. That means it will be on the 23rd.

But it's a two day event. There's a 1st day, and a last day. When it's the 1st day on our side of the world, it will be the 2nd, or last day in Jerusalem.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Also the sun turning black as sackcloth and the moon not giving it's light sounds like an eclipse but maybe it will be due to massive amounts of smoke from Jerusalem being on fire to the extant that it hasn't been since 70 AD. A massive earthquake that kills 7,000 people hasn't happened.

Facepalm! You are completely missing the point. These signs are not about physical eclipses or smoke in Jerusalem. The sun, moon, and stars in Revelation are clearly symbolic of God’s congregation, (Revelation 12:1). When the sun is darkened, the moon gives no light, and the stars fall, it speaks of the congregation falling into apostasy—losing its testimony and kingdom representation through unfaithfulness.


Just as Israel was cut off at the Cross because of rejecting Christ (Matthew 21:43, John 1:11), so too an unfaithful church loses its light (Matthew 5:14–16; Revelation 2:5) because she rejected God's Word. The imagery is about spiritual collapse, not natural disasters. To interpret these things as mere physical events is to handle God’s Word carnally instead of spiritually (1 Corinthians 2:14).

Selah!

The setting of Jesus return and rapture happen as He described in Matthew 24. This prophecy will not be fulfilled in a couple of days

It won't.

- UNLESS JERUSALEM is severely attacked and not like any other time in history.

Oh you think the rapture will not take place until physical city Jerusalem will be attacked by, let say, Russia? No not going to happen as you think.

An attack to such a degree that her Iron Dome is overwhelmed and everyone in the city is trying to escape as Jesus warned them to do. "“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes."

Sigh....

 

[TribulationSigns]

I guess if you had to ask, you weren't a part of it.

They didn't see the sliver of the moon in Jerusalem today. That means it will be on the 23rd.

But it's a two day event. There's a 1st day, and a last day. When it's the 1st day on our side of the world, it will be the 2nd, or last day in Jerusalem.

LOL!

Enough with this moon-chasing nonsense. One day you swear it’s the 22nd, the next day you shift it to the 23rd. Which is it? You’re grasping at shadows. The Word of God doesn’t play guessing games with calendars (Deuteronomy 18:22, Matthew 24:36). Keep spinning your ‘two-day event’ theory if you like—I’ll mock the 22nd today, and I’ll mock the 23rd tomorrow.

By the time the 24th comes, we’ll see your predictions lying in the dust where they belong.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Wow so you all skeered now?

You should go check the video out. He just doesn't look like your normal nut that goes around making rapture videos. He's an older white African guy being interviewed by a guy from Amsterdam who is not even a religious channel. I don't even know why they are on the list in USA YouTube. I don't usually see Dutch videos on my You Tube queue.

Towards the end the interviewer did put the guy on the spot and ask some good questions. He mentions some example in Africa where a whole group of people thought the rapture was coming, when it didn't come they committed suicide. The interview said this damaging behavior.

13:12:

This is the part where he says Jesus appeared to him in 2018.

"He appeared in front of me and he told me from the time Israel became a nation in 1948 there will be 77 years to the Exodus. And in this moment I knew he was talking about the rapture.​

It makes me believe him when he says Jesus called it the Exodus.

I thought I was reading somewhere else about 77 years, Joseph married Leah when he was 77. It was actually when he met Laban and fell in love with Rachel or something.

When I was doing the google I fine this:

Jesus Christ was the 77th generation from Adam

According to the Gospel of Luke, Jesus is described as the 77th generation from Adam. This count is explicitly stated in Luke 3, where the genealogy traces Jesus' lineage back to Adam, with the final generation being Jesus himself. The number 77 is significant, as it aligns with the concept of the Jubilee year (Leviticus 25–55), which occurs once every seven sets of seven years, and also evokes the idea of 77-fold forgiveness as mentioned in Matthew 18.

Some scholars suggest that the number 77 may also be linked to the Book of Enoch, where the Day of Judgment is prophesied to occur after seventy generations following the patriarch Enoch, who lived in the seventh generation. This numerical pattern, with key figures like Abraham (21st generation), David (35th generation), and Jesus (77th generation) appearing at multiples of seven, indicates a deliberate theological design rather than a mere historical record. The genealogy in Luke is not presented as a simple factual list but as a theological construct intended to emphasize Jesus' role as the Messiah and the fulfillment of divine promises.

AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.

 

[PinSeeker]

...the gospel was not spread to every nation in any other generation, but now it has been. (Matt. 24:14)

Right, since Jesus's time on earth, and thus His commission to all of us as recorded by Matthew in Matthew 28:19-20. But that wasn't what I was referring to. It's being spread, and that's by the Spirit through us.

Also the sun turning black as sackcloth and the moon not giving it's light sounds like an eclipse but maybe it will be due to massive amounts of smoke from Jerusalem being on fir...

Ugh. <smile>

A massive earthquake that kills 7,000 people hasn't happened.

There have been many earthquakes, and many quite devastating. And wars, and rumors of wars, and people falling away, and betraying and hating, and false prophets, and lawlessness, and love growing cold... <smile>

I have been on the fence with this prophecy from the start but my doubts have increased for a few reasons - still hopeful though!
The setting of Jesus return and rapture happen as He described in Matthew 24. This prophecy will not be fulfilled in a couple of days - UNLESS JERUSALEM is severely attacked and not like any other time in history. An attack to such a degree that her Iron Dome is overwhelmed and everyone in the city is trying to escape as Jesus warned them to do. "“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes."

Hmmmm... The "attack" and the "birth pains," Ronald, have been ongoing and occurring for quite some time. <smile> And Jesus did say these things were "but the beginning of the birth pains." To this end, you might also keep in mind what Paul says, that "the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now..." ~ what he said was not only relevant to the Romans then but to us now.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Enough with this moon-chasing nonsense. One day you swear it’s the 22nd, the next day you shift it to the 23rd. Which is it? You’re grasping at shadows. The Word of God doesn’t play guessing games with calendars (Deuteronomy 18:22, Matthew 24:36). Keep spinning your ‘two-day event’ theory if you like—I’ll mock the 22nd today, and I’ll mock the 23rd tomorrow.

By the time the 24th comes, we’ll see your predictions lying in the dust where they belong.

I never said that. It was never going to be the 22nd. Feast of Trumpets is 23rd and 24th.

Are you worried about it. We're just talking about some video interviews a guy did, and the global phenomena he has generated. I watched them all and all I said was I can't find anything to disqualify what he has said.

I said my conclusion here is there's a 50/50 chance. I could flip a coin any day and the rapture could happen. Jesus said people are not going to expect it. They will be planning and going to weddings, going out to eat and drink, planting and sowing in the fields, two men sleeping in the bed, just like in the days of Noah. They will be unaware until the flood comes and takes them all away.

No need to fret over it.

 

[Scott Downey]

I never said that. It was never going to be the 22nd. Feast of Trumpets is 23rd and 24th.

Are you worried about it. We're just talking about some video interviews a guy did, and the global phenomena he has generated. I watched them all and all I said was I can't find anything to disqualify what he has said.

I said my conclusion here is there's a 50/50 chance. I could flip a coin any day and the rapture could happen. Jesus said people are not going to expect it. They will be planning and going to weddings, going out to eat and drink, planting and sowing in the fields, two men sleeping in the bed, just like in the days of Noah. They will be unaware until the flood comes and takes them all away.

No need to fret over it.

The rapture won't happen this week.
0% chance.

There are things that must happen before we are gathered, I am post trib rapture, and everyone should be.
Tribulation not coming from God towards us, it is the tribulation caused by Satan against the church.

When you read it like this Luke 21

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

See when He comes back the Sun, Moon, Stars go dark.
NOT SMOKE from cities being burned, they just go dark.
Also, possible strange unnatural things are seen in the universe about the sun, moon, stars, referring to the signs men will see that scares them out of their wits.


When Christ returns, He comes in blazing glory, recall He is the Light of the world
So yeah, every eye will see Him. It will be the only cosmic light around, no sun, no moon, no stars are producing light.
That is how I read this.

And who knows how long will be the darkness. a week, a day, I don't know.
It will be long enough that men will be extremely scared, it won't be an eclipse, city fires, clouds, smoke darkening the sky
It will be something unnatural!

Men's hearts will fail them because of the extremely strange things happening, including of the sea. It is possible the 'sea' are the evil governments of man on the earth as described by the angel in Revelation.

Luke 21

The Coming of the Son of Man​

25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Right, since Jesus's time on earth, and thus His commission to all of us as recorded by Matthew in Matthew 28:19-20. But that wasn't what I was referring to. It's being spread, and that's by the Spirit through us.


Ugh. <smile>


There have been many earthquakes, and many quite devastating. And wars, and rumors of wars, and people falling away, and betraying and hating, and false prophets, and lawlessness, and love growing cold... <smile>


Hmmmm... The "attack" and the "birth pains," Ronald, have been ongoing and occurring for quite some time. <smile> And Jesus did say these things were "but the beginning of the birth pains." To this end, you might also keep in mind what Paul says, that "the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now..." ~ what he said was not only relevant to the Romans then but to us now.

Grace and peace to you.

Okay, I have your vote, NO
Rapture this week. I'm leaning that way too.

 

[IndianaRob]

Okay, I have your vote, NO
Rapture this week. I'm leaning that way too.

Guaranteed 100% it won’t happen this week or any other week.

 

[PinSeeker]

Guaranteed 100% it won’t happen this week or any other week.

Right. Jesus's return will certainly be a rapturous event, though... <smile> ...a true and final 'harpazo,' a seizing, of what is His, in Paul's context in 1 Thessalonians 4. Those who are still alive at that time will go out to meet him, but nobody will be going anywhere, in the sense of Jesus "removing them" or "taking them to some secret place." All will be resurrected, some to the resurrection to eternal life, and some to the resurrection of judgment (John 5:28-29). The final Judgment will then ensue in short order, upon the completion of which the unrepentant will "go away," "depart" (Matthew 7:23, 25:46) into judgment... obediently, at the command of Jesus Himself (Matthew 7:23)... into God's judgment, of course, for eternity; this is the "lake of fire," and the "second death," and this will be their eternal state of being. And that will be their eternal torment (Luke 16, Revelation 20), their worm that will not die (Mark 9). <shudder>

Grace and peace to you all.

 

[IndianaRob]

Right. Jesus's return will certainly be a rapturous event, though... <smile> ...a true and final 'harpazo,' a seizing, of what is His, in Paul's context in 1 Thessalonians 4. Those who are still alive at that time will go out to meet him, but nobody will be going anywhere, in the sense of Jesus "removing them" or "taking them to some secret place." All will be resurrected, some to the resurrection to eternal life, and some to the resurrection of judgment (John 5:28-29). The final Judgment will then ensue in short order, upon the completion of which the unrepentant will "go away," "depart" (Matthew 7:23, 25:46) into judgment... obediently, at the command of Jesus Himself (Matthew 7:23)... into God's judgment, of course, for eternity; this is the "lake of fire," and the "second death," and this will be their eternal state of being. And that will be their eternal torment (Luke 16, Revelation 20), their worm that will not die (Mark 9). <shudder>

Grace and peace to you all.

We all get raptured. That’s why Jesus said whoever believes in him will never die.

Not sure why people want to take that joy from God’s people.

 

[Davidpt]

This Pretrib rapture that is supposed to take place within the next day or two, will Post tribbers who do not believe in Pretrib also get raptured?

After all, note what the following records---For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again(1 Thessalonians 4:14). Obviously--that that is also being applied to this as well--- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air(1 Thessalonians 4:17)---since it would be preposteroous to think anyone remaining alive can be raptured without having to first believe Jesus died and rose again. The point being, post tribbers also believe Jesus died and rose again, yet post tribbers do not believe in a Pretrib rapture. Therefore, per this scenario, what do Pretribbers assume happens to post tribbers who do not believe in a Pretrib rapture if a Pretrib rapture were to actually occur?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

You should go check the video out. He just doesn't look like your normal nut that goes around making rapture videos. He's an older white African guy being interviewed by a guy from Amsterdam who is not even a religious channel. I don't even know why they are on the list in USA YouTube. I don't usually see Dutch videos on my You Tube queue.

I think I'll stick with the Word of God and the Holy Ghost!

Date setters are being influenced by devils.

Because they refuse to accept what Jesus said about nobody knowing the day or hour of his return.

More than likely they monetized their channels and are engaging in click bait to enhance their pocketbook with cash

At any rate, I don't sit under false doctrine and that's exactly what date setting actually is.... heresy that claims Jesus lied.

So, Imma gonna pass.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The point being, post tribbers also believe Jesus died and rose again, yet post tribbers do not believe in a Pretrib rapture. Therefore, per this scenario, what do Pretribbers assume happens to post tribbers who do not believe in a Pretrib rapture if a Pretrib rapture were to actually occur?

I'm not a pretribber, but it's not up to them. The post tribbers go in the rapture. The Amils do too. I don't know if a preponderance of the Jews go though. They might have to wash their own robes and do it the hard way, and be those who are coming out of great tribulation. Because it depends on if you believe in Jesus. Or maybe it can all happen fast if they see the sign of the Son of Man coming in the clouds and have a quick conversion. Like whosoever calls out on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.

For the purpose of this thread, I just use the word "rapture", in place of the first resurrection. The blessed and holy resurrection. The guy from the video which caused this thread said Jesus called it the Exodus. He said Jesus said it will be 77 years from the time Israel became a nation in 1948, until He comes back to do the Exodus.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Well, well, well. No rapture so far... and its 23rd in Israel. All false prophets of September 22-23 and people deceived by them are fool!

 

[HealthyShape]

Another embarrassing prediction failure by futurists. All the videos they lost their time watching and required other people to watch too and all their useless posts can go to the trash bin, again.

 

[quietthinker]

Rapture ... this week?​

11.59pm Thursday...wearing a MAGA hat!

 

[Davidpt]

More than likely they monetized their channels and are engaging in click bait to enhance their pocketbook with cash

In that case since things like that do indeed happen on YouTube all the time, I guess this means they are laughing all the way to the bank and couldn't care less about a rapture, since they won't be able to enjoy spending all of that money on worldly things if they are removed from the planet instead.

Here's an interesting video that I just came across. I haven't watched all of it, just parts of it, enough to realize this person is making some fair and valid points over all.

 

[Scott Downey]

I guess if you had to ask, you weren't a part of it.

They didn't see the sliver of the moon in Jerusalem today. That means it will be on the 23rd.

But it's a two day event. There's a 1st day, and a last day. When it's the 1st day on our side of the world, it will be the 2nd, or last day in Jerusalem.

100% it will not be for the next 7 days any rapture.
People who say today, such and such date is the rapture, have always been wrong false prophets, not of God.
Then coming on here like this, is acting like Balaam, that mad prophet, whom God destroyed...
Balaam's deeds were evil, even though God did speak some words through him. They always get exposed by the Spirit and do suffer the consequences as God is not mocked. Such people are an offense to God, they cause his people to sin.

Numbers 23:16
Then the Lord met Balaam, and put a word in his mouth, and said, “Go back to Balak, and thus you shall speak.”

Number 31
7 And they warred against the Midianites, just as the Lord commanded Moses, and they killed all the males. 8 They killed the kings of Midian with the rest of those who were killed—Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba, the five kings of Midian. Balaam the son of Beor they also killed with the sword.

15 And Moses said to them: “Have you kept all the women alive? 16 Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. 17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. 19 And as for you, remain outside the camp seven days; whoever has killed any person, and whoever has touched any slain, purify yourselves and your captives on the third day and on the seventh day. 20 Purify every garment, everything made of leather, everything woven of goats’ hair, and everything made of wood.”

 

[Dave Watchman]

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Joshua was late. Technical issues were blamed.

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