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IndianaRob

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I would but it is a sin/idolatry of Money. I trust and believe in God's Word. The Rapture is an event that WILL happen..
It happens every day and has been since the beginning of time for anyone who believes in Jesus, that’s the way a believer goes to be with the Lord.

For some reason people ignore the actual words of the “rapture” verses and have turned into a special event for a special group when it’s actually an event that all believers will take part in.
 

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I need a vacation....

2 weeks from now.

I got 48 claustrophobia....but a trip inside the 48 will help.

So I'm off to the apple orchards....
Drink some cider....get some hard cider...get some apples.
 

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That’s not a figure of speech it’s a metaphor. We perform the same function on the world that salt does for meat. We preserve life and make the experience better.
Same thing. You are salt of the earth is a non-literal statement.

Deuteronomy 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

From the four winds means from all directions. From one end of heaven to the other in that verse means from the most distant parts of the earth. There are three heavens - the earth's atmosphere, the cosmos, the heaven where God's throne is (which is the third heaven).

2Corinthians12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Matthew 24:31, the gathering of the Jews from all nations to Israel is also in Ezekiel 39:28...

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

Jesus Himself is speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to this earth.
 

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In post #431
you said "God is calling out to His people to REPENT from the lie of pre-trib rapture" indicating that believing in pre-trib is sinful behavior.

So you either believe it's a sin, or you believe Christians can engage in sinful behavior and still be saved.

Which is it???
All Christians sin. Hello! But they hate it.
 

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False teachers predicted another day for the rapture.
Another day predicted and gone with no rapture.
They never learn.
I wonder which day is next.

During old testament times they would stone false prophets.
These days we just accuse them of making an error.
And on it goes.
Another day predicted and gone with no rapture ... and no shame, no conviction, no humility, no apologies and no repentance.
 
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I would be willing to wager $1,000.00 that the Rapture will not happen within the next 500 years. Any takers?
I'll be around in 500 years, but I will have no need of money. In the Millennial Kingdom, I don't think we'll need money, it carries with it, temptation. There will be no lovers of money.
 
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I'll be around in 500 years, but I will have no need of money. In the Millennial Kingdom don't think we'll need money, it's carries with it, temptation.
More fiction. That is as likely as the false predictions you have promoted this week. Bible students see through all this.
 

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Jesus is coming soon ... until then, peace be with you!
 

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"But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the Day should overtake you as a thief.
5) You are all sons of light and sons of day; we are not of night, nor of darkness.
6) So then, we should not sleep, as the rest also do, but we should watch and be sober."
I meant why don´t you let this failed prophecy sleep. I did not mean that you should live your life in sin (which is meant by sleeping in those verses).

Paul said to the first century church that they should "watch", because the coming of the Lord was near. Thinking that Paul was wrong is not believing the verses, actually.
 

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Jesus is coming soon ... until then, peace be with you!

LOL.

You are not going away without an accountability. You started the OP with video from the false prophet.

Today is September 27th, 2025, Mountain Time. NOTHING happened since September 22nd, 2025. No Christ's return. No Trumpet. No gathering of the Saints in the air. No 7 years peace treaty nonsense.

Well....

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People have been trying to predict the end from the very beginning. No harm, even the Apostles believed they were living in the last days. Since they got it wrong I am not going to slight anyone for being interested.

But people are missing the point…..I was on a thread where they were debating if the story of the rich man and Lazarus was a true story or a parable. Old debate but the point is be read for Judgment Day before it is too late. Christ said only His father knows….(One of a hundred verses that prove they are not the same person.)

Be ready is the point….Live a good Christian life….give to charity...go to church and be involved with church activities. Raise your children in the church. Stay away from the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Calvinists and the Once Saved Always Saved and Universalism groups.
 

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People have been trying to predict the end from the very beginning. No harm
A lot of harm.

even the Apostles believed they were living in the last days. Since they got it wrong
They were not wrong. People today just do not want to understand it.

Live a good Christian life
Yes.

Stay away from the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Calvinists and the Once Saved Always Saved and Universalism groups.
:rolleyes: A needless presentation of your personal theological "enemies", not relevant to the rest of your post in any way.
 

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I meant why don´t you let this failed prophecy sleep. I did not mean that you should live your life in sin (which is meant by sleeping in those verses).

Paul said to the first century church that they should "watch", because the coming of the Lord was near. Thinking that Paul was wrong is not believing the verses, actually.
Yes, I agree just let go the Joshua person's speculation that the rapture would happen on September 23, 2025 as being wrong.
 
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People have been trying to predict the end from the very beginning. No harm, even the Apostles believed they were living in the last days. Since they got it wrong I am not going to slight anyone for being interested.
The good thing is that we have evidence of the parable of the fig tree generation that we are living in the last days.

And that Israel is back in the land, in the latter years, latter days (of Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16) that the Gog/Magog event will happen soon.
 

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Same thing. You are salt of the earth is a non-literal statement.

Deuteronomy 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

From the four winds means from all directions. From one end of heaven to the other in that verse means from the most distant parts of the earth. There are three heavens - the earth's atmosphere, the cosmos, the heaven where God's throne is (which is the third heaven).

2Corinthians12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Matthew 24:31, the gathering of the Jews from all nations to Israel is also in Ezekiel 39:28...

Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

Jesus Himself is speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to this earth.
From one end of heaven to the other end of heaven is not a metaphor and the only reason you’re trying to make it a metaphor is you don’t like what that means.

Your whole theology is based on not believing the parts of the Bible you don’t agree with.
 

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The good thing is that we have evidence of the parable of the fig tree generation that we are living in the last days.

And that Israel is back in the land, in the latter years, latter days (of Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16) that the Gog/Magog event will happen soon.
This also failed. One generation is about 40 years, 1948+40 = 1988. Nothing happened. Let it go.
 

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A lot of harm.


They were not wrong. People today just do not want to understand it.


Yes.


:rolleyes: A needless presentation of your personal theological "enemies", not relevant to the rest of your post in any way.

LOL They have ears but cannot hear and eyes but they cannot see.
 

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The good thing is that we have evidence of the parable of the fig tree generation that we are living in the last days.

And that Israel is back in the land, in the latter years, latter days (of Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16) that the Gog/Magog event will happen soon.
The parable of the fig tree is not the rebirth of Israel, it’s the DESTRUCTION of Israel.

Jesus was warning the Jews that Amos 8 was upon them.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of SUMMER fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.