Rapture ... soon?
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Jesus, God the Son, created Michael, just as He created all that was created.
The way you portray Michael you make him out to be a liar, the Bible to be false, and Jesus non-existant.
More like God than Jesus? Jesus is God, so there ya go.
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Let's stay on track. Jesus, not Michael, is in heaven, the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega. Jesus created Michael. Not the other way around. That's blasphemy.
Revelation 1:5 KJV
5) And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
This revelation is from Jesus Christ, Who is called the "faithful witness".
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what you may not relies there may be one way in which a cross bar could of been used ,an aid in standing the pole . it would of been nearer the bottom perhaps 4' from the bottom of the pole .
THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name
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Let's stay on track. Jesus, not Michael, is in heaven, the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega. Jesus created Michael. Not the other way around. That's blasphemy.
Revelation 1:5 KJV
5) And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
This revelation is from Jesus Christ, Who is called the "faithful witness". This means Jesus tells the truth. I suggest you believe Him.
Much love!
Michael the Great Prince Stands Up “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people.”—DANIEL 12:1.
how many are there that are known to be the prince ?
Jesus more . . .
Matthew 24:29-30 KJV
29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 19:11-21 KJV
11) And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12) His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13) And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14) And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15) And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16) And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17) And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18) That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19) And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21) And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Jesus, the Lord of Lords. Not Michael, who was created by Jesus, but Jesus Christ.
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Daniel 10:13-21 KJV
13) But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
14) Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
15) And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
16) And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
17) For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
18) Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
19) And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
20) Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
21) But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
These are all angels associated with nations. The prince of the kingdom of Persia, of Greece, and Michael, the prince of Israel.
"Michael, one of the chief princes", that is, one of a plurality of "chief princes".
Daniel 12:1 KJV
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Again, Michael, the prince of Israel.
Now, if you've responded to my post, great, if not, we're done.
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I must conclude there is a reason why you won't touch this:
Jesus, not Michael, is in heaven, the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega. Jesus created Michael. Not the other way around. That's blasphemy.
Revelation 1:5 KJV
5) And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
This revelation is from Jesus Christ, Who is called the "faithful witness". This means Jesus tells the truth. I suggest you believe Him.
Much love!
its the same person ! he did not get the name Jesus until he was born a man .
Jesus
(Jeʹsus) [Lat. form of the Gr. I·e·sousʹ, which corresponds to the Heb. Ye·shuʹaʽ or Yehoh·shuʹaʽ and means “Jehovah Is Salvation”] a rather appropriate name .in the heavenly realm Michael means Who Is Like God . there is no other person named that can be so well defined . he is like his father . to show how much Jesus is like his father Jesus said “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father also. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?'' Jesus was not saying he is God ,he was not saying he is equal ,but very, very much like him.
David in NJ
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David in NJ
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In the OT many Israelites had names that ended in 'el'.
Such as Samuel = did that make him God?
Also many names ending in 'ah' which is the same ending as Jehovah = Noah, Jonah, Hannah
David in NJ
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HOLY SPIRIT prophecy:
There will be no pre-trib rapture in October 2025
There will be no pre-trib rapture in November 2025
There will be no pre-trib rapture in December 2025
LORD JESUS CHRIST's warning to those who are deceived by the false teachers and pre-trib rapture = Matthew ch 24
3Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
4And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you.
v29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Acts 1:9-11 - Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, Jesus was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.
If you place your trust in pre-trib, you are trusting a lie from men who oppose the words of CHRIST and the apostles
Remember what JESUS says to you = "Take heed that no one deceives you"
There will be no pre-trib rapture in October 2025
There will be no pre-trib rapture in November 2025
There will be no pre-trib rapture in December 2025
LORD JESUS CHRIST's warning to those who are deceived by the false teachers and pre-trib rapture = Matthew ch 24
3Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
4And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you.
v29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Acts 1:9-11 - Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, Jesus was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.
If you place your trust in pre-trib, you are trusting a lie from men who oppose the words of CHRIST and the apostles
Remember what JESUS says to you = "Take heed that no one deceives you"
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even as clouds cover over making things making things not visible ,so will be the return . the point being that with the minds eye there will be an understanding of the return.
David in NJ
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they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds
I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14Then the skyreceded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
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David in NJ
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THEY understand Who and what is coming!!!
And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
David in NJ
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Satan also is a great prince = which is why the only angel that can stand against satan is Michael.
When satan lost his position in Heaven, God gave it to Michael.
The LORD Jesus Christ is the Creator of all the angels = all the angels WORSHIP the LORD Jesus Christ
God's HELP for our understanding = COMPARE and CONTRAST = Hebrews 1:5-9
5For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again:
“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?
6But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him/Lord Jesus Christ.”
7And of the angels He says:
“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”
8But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
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