Republicans voting for Hillary?

[lforrest]

Bill Clinton jokingly referred to a silly newspaper article about his wife and you think that means she is a necromancer? Seriously?

Seriously. A lot of people get caught up in occult practices, It isn't uncommon.

Wait a minute, do you not believe the devil is real?

 

[junobet]

Seriously. A lot of people get caught up in occult practices, It isn't uncommon.

Sure, but whatever you may think about Hillary Clinton, she surely isn’t silly enough to keep a crystal ball in her closet.

Wait a minute, do you not believe the devil is real?
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junobet:
Depends on what you mean by “the devil” and by “real”. I believe with Augustine that evil is non-existent in that it is just the loss of good. This loss, which we call evil, is of course both all around us and in us.
But do I have to understand you believe necromancy and witchcraft are real?

 

[lforrest]

Wait a minute, do you not believe the devil is real?
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junobet:
Depends on what you mean by “the devil” and by “real”. I believe with Augustine that evil is non-existent in that it is just the loss of good. This loss, which we call evil, is of course both all around us and in us.
But do I have to understand you believe necromancy and witchcraft are real?

By devil I mean the fallen angel who lead a rebellion in heaven and caused a third of the angels to join him. He is a real supernatural being, not some abstract personification of evil.

 

[lforrest]

Sure, but whatever you may think about Hillary Clinton, she surely isn’t silly enough to keep a crystal ball in her closet.

I'm sure she more than enough skeletons in her closet.

 

[junobet]

By devil I mean the fallen angel who lead a rebellion in heaven and caused a third of the angels to join him. He is a real supernatural being, not some abstract personification of evil.

Personally I don’t tend to read the Bible through the lenses of Milton’s “Paradise Lost”. So when I read Isaiah 14:12-17, I don’t see it talking about a fallen Angel called Lucifer, but about the Babylonian King mentioned in Isaiah 14:4.
So to get halfway back to topic: I find the thought of Donald Trump becoming President of the US really really scary, but I don’t believe for a second that He’s in league with a real supernatutal being sporting horns, hooves and pitchforks. He’s just a very human egomanic populist without a conscience and no political convictions whatsoever.

 

[lforrest]

I am showing that Hillary is willfully or ignorantly in league with demons since she communes with the dead, who are likely demons in reality.

But you don't believe they exist.

 

[junobet]

I am showing that Hillary is willfully or ignorantly in league with demons since she communes with the dead, who are likely demons in reality.

But you don't believe they exist.

Well, what I’ve been trying to tell you is that in the video-clip you linked Bill Clinton made a joke about some overblown silly claims that had been made: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/25/us/performing-seances-no-just-pushing-the-membrane-of-the-possible.html
Think about it: if Hillary really was into the occult, that’s probably the last thing her husband would announce in public. To most of Clinton’s voters it would be like saying: My wife is nuts!
As for demons: my inner demons certainly do exist, with the help of Christ I fight them every day. But they aren’t supernatural beings, they are part of my very own fragile human mind, that tends to forget about God and to lean towards evil.

 

[michaelvpardo]

I never thought I would vote for a D

but i would rather have HC than DT, at least @ this time

i dont like either one but ... loose canons... etc... @ least Clinton has experience, etc...

i am voting for Ted Cruz. I will write in his name. Never let it be said that i voted for someone who thinks killing unborn children is OK


write in Ted Cruz

I hear this sort of thing a lot. I refuse to vote for Donald Trump and I refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton. I think that we're in a pretty sorry state of affairs when everyone I hear is talking about voting for the lesser of two terrible candidates offered up by the Republicans and Democrats. I find it amazing that no one really gives a third party candidate any possibility of beating a republican or a democrat. Possibly most people think of third party candidates as crackpots. I'm supporting and voting for Evan McMullin, in spite of the fact that he is a Mormon (I wasn't prepared to vote for a wealthy Mormon during the last election cycle) and possibly because he was a former CIA counter terrorism operative (even though I have a great deal of disdain for the CIA and the many attempts that they've made to change the face of the world .) I'll vote for someone who fears God and holds to "Christian" values even if they don't know God personally. I'll vote for someone who held his nation in high enough regard to risk his life without any hope of recognition in combatting terrorism on the front lines of a covert war. I'll vote for someone who's never held an elected office before and isn't a career politician, because I see him as a patriot and at least as capable as a crazy casino builder or a socialist thief and liar. Never before in the history of the United States have two candidates from the largest political parties been so unpopular with the electorate, so perhaps a ballot for a third party candidate can actually make a difference. Unfortunately, it seems that Patriotism is dead, that an unborn child's life has no value, that our country no longer belongs to Americans, and that fear is the only thing capable of uniting us (like Nazi Germany in the 1930s.) Those that ignore the lessons of the past are bound to relive them.

 

[lforrest]

Well, what I’ve been trying to tell you is that in the video-clip you linked Bill Clinton made a joke about some overblown silly claims that had been made: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/25/us/performing-seances-no-just-pushing-the-membrane-of-the-possible.html
Think about it: if Hillary really was into the occult, that’s probably the last thing her husband would announce in public. To most of Clinton’s voters it would be like saying: My wife is nuts!
As for demons: my inner demons certainly do exist, with the help of Christ I fight them every day. But they aren’t supernatural beings, they are part of my very own fragile human mind, that tends to forget about God and to lean towards evil.

That article proves a few things.
1. She does have a witch spiritual advisor.
2. That person has sense to lie about their client's divinations.
3. You are gullible.

I'm sure many people could tell you about personal encounters they have had with demons and Holy angels. I also doubt you would be convinced if they told you.

 

[Dan57]

that is NOT pro-death

murdering unborn children (who have obviously committed no crime)

IS

Sorry, when you said "death penalty", I thought you were referring to capital punishment, not abortion.

 

[junobet]

That article proves a few things.
1. She does have a witch spiritual advisor.
2. That person has sense to lie about their client's divinations.
3. You are gullible.

I'm sure many people could tell you about personal encounters they have had with demons and Holy angels. I also doubt you would be convinced if they told you.

Well, you won’t be surprised to hear that I think you are the gullible one here. ;-)
I tend to take people’s experiences seriously, but that doesn’t mean I necessarily interpret them the same way they do. My advice for people giving too much credit to Satanic powers would be to beware of the Manichaean heresy.
As for witches: I do hope you don’t believe in them having any real powers. That Christians ever did was a sorry aberration that first got started in the Middle Ages and that I had hoped Christianity had overcome by now.

 

[heretoeternity]

Voting for Hillary is a vote for death...the death of more babies in the womb, the death of more people from the wars the USA has created around the globe, more homosexuality by promoting their destructive agenda, and more loss of sovereignty to the globalists.
Voting for Mr Trump will provide more sympathetic environment for " Christians", and a more patriotic environment for the USA..Mr Trump displays are more sensible and God fearing approach to everyday life.

 

[junobet]

Voting for Hillary is a vote for death...the death of more babies in the womb, the death of more people from the wars the USA has created around the globe, more homosexuality by promoting their destructive agenda, and more loss of sovereignty to the globalists.
Voting for Mr Trump will provide more sympathetic environment for " Christians", and a more patriotic environment for the USA..Mr Trump displays are more sensible and God fearing approach to everyday life.

And when that lunatic Trump gets hold of the red button it well happen that all of us die, unborn babies and heterosexual Christians included.

 

[lforrest]

Better to die in nuclear fire than live under the Antichrist. Not that Trump would cause nuclear holocaust, he is too smart to initiate that. I'm sure he would retaliate, and this makes an effective nuclear deterrent. I don't think Hillary would have the nerve to retaliate using our nuclear arsenal, so under her nuclear holocaust is more likely.

As for the Antichrist, it would be much easier for him to appear if Americans were out of the picture. Think about that while you sit in "safety" in mainland Europe, because you are not safe from the appearance of the Antichrist.

 

[heretoeternity]

And when that lunatic Trump gets hold of the red button it well happen that all of us die, unborn babies and heterosexual Christians included.
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Mr Trump has too much to live for, to do anything dumb as you suggest...he is a Godly man, and will help Christians all he can....Hillary is from a culture of death plain and simple...just look at her..she has lost her grip on reality, as you have, following the perverted agenda she has chosen to follow.

 

[junobet]

Better to die in nuclear fire than live under the Antichrist.

The only time I ever see the word “Anti-Christ” being used in the Bible is in the Epistles of John, where it refers to people spreading the false teaching that Christ did not come in the flesh. I doubt any of your current candidates for presidency is much of a docetist.
If you want to use the word Anti-Christ in a broader way: Fully subscribing to John’s criticism of Docetism (which saw all matter as evil) I’d rather live under a government that is keen to protect God’s good creation (Gen. 1:31) than under one that deems it a mere resource to exploit and to destroy.

Not that Trump would cause nuclear holocaust, he is too smart to initiate that.

Trump is not smart. He’s a narcissist with a temper problem whose ignorance on international affairs became blatantly obvious, when he stated that Russia had not invaded Ukraine yet.

I'm sure he would retaliate, and this makes an effective nuclear deterrent. I don't think Hillary would have the nerve to retaliate using our nuclear arsenal, so under her nuclear holocaust is more likely.

Why would any moral leader tear even more millions and millions of innocent people into death for the mere sake of retaliating? Is retaliating in the Spirit of Christ now? Whatever happened to “turn the other cheek” and not repaying evil with evil?
IMHO the only leader who displayed Christ-like qualities in the nuclear question recently, is Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the British Labour Party. He was honest enough to admit that under no circumstances would he ever press that button. As a follower of the Prince of Peace I must applaud such pacifism.

As for the Antichrist, it would be much easier for him to appear if Americans were out of the picture. Think about that while you sit in "safety" in mainland Europe, because you are not safe from the appearance of the Antichrist.

America is just another Empire that will fall like others before. If your allegiance is with national pride rather than with Christ you have a serious problem.

 

[ScaliaFan]

any "republican" who votes for someone like HC is not and never has been R

it would be one thing if it were some D who was not a liar or corrupt or a baby killer running in the D party, and Rs liked that person better. But of course.....